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Glancing at everyone, he said: "The current big man is basically hopeless!" ”

Huang Chengyan and Pang Degong glanced at each other and said, "Oh? What do you mean by that? ”

Tian Fan said: "Since the second emperor of Huan Ling, political affairs have not worked, and the ten permanent servants have been in chaos!" After the Yellow Turban Rebellion, Dong Zhongying made another move, which can be regarded as tearing off the face of the Liu family! After his death, Li Dao and Guo Yan rebelled again. Now that Emperor Xian is still in the hands of Li Guo, the face of the Han royal family has been lost! Therefore, the hope of the Han family is not great! ”

Pang Degong nodded and asked, "Then why does your Xuande Gong still raise the banner of supporting the Han?" ”

Tian Fan said: "Why did Pang Gong play me? You don't know? ”

Pang Degong smiled and said, "Hehe, okay, I know, it's just fame!" Well, who do you think is the most likely to win the world among the various forces today? ”

Tian Fan said: "It should be Cao Mengde!" ”

Zhuge Liang asked, "Brother Boguang, then why don't you go and assist him?" ”

Tian Fan looked at Zhuge Liang and said, "Cao Mengde is suspicious by nature, and he is easy to kill!" Don't you know how many innocent people he killed when he fought Xuzhou? I don't like him! ”

Zhuge Liang nodded. Pang Degong asked again: "What about next?" ”

Tian Fan said: "Secondly, of course, my father-in-law!" The lord is generous, loves the people, can listen to others, never intervenes in things he doesn't understand, and always trusts others! How nice is such a lord? One day, there will be talents from all walks of life to assist him! The two old men nodded, and the three young ones also looked in agreement.

Pang Degong asked, "Then do you think Liu Yuanjun can succeed?" Or can he be emperor? Tian Fan thought for a while and said: "I'm not sure that the lord can succeed now, there are too many factors for this decision, but it's still very promising!" However, I don't want my lord to be emperor, even after it happens! ”

The two old men looked at each other, and Huang Chengyan asked, "Why?" ”

Tian Fan thought for a while and said, "If the lord is the emperor, then the son of the lord will be the emperor, and the grandson of the lord will be the emperor." However, after so many generations, will it still be Mingjun? In a few hundred years, won't the world be in chaos again? Then there is a person who rises, sweeps the world and then becomes the emperor, and then a series of faint kings appear a few generations later, and then the world is in chaos. So back and forth, there is no end, and the people are still suffering! Tian Fan's face is still red, he is easy to get drunk, but he is very slow to sober up! It is in this state that he can speak freely.

Pang Degong said: "Not necessarily, if the emperor invites good teachers for everyone, let them be close to the virtuous ministers and far away from the villain, then maybe they can go on forever?" ”

Tian Fan shook his head and said, "No matter how good the teacher is, no matter how good the teaching is, who dares to guarantee that the students will be able to learn well and then do a good job?" After speaking, Tian Fan paused for a moment, and then said: "In fact, the key problem is that the imperial power is too big, and it feels like the world is set up for the Son of Heaven alone. Is that really the case? Tian Fan shook his head and said, "The sage also said that the Son of Heaven is for the world!" Because the imperial power is too large, there are relatives and eunuchs interfering in politics, these are the reasons for the troubled times! ”

Huang Chengyan shook his head and said, "This is a common problem in ancient and modern times, and it can't be solved!" ”

Tian Fan shook his head and said, "Not necessarily! If the imperial power can be weakened, so that the emperor, or the Son of Heaven, is only a symbol of the country, and does not participate in the government affairs, then there will be no worries about relatives and eunuchs interfering in politics, and this problem will be solved! ”

The two old men said, "How did it solve it?" The imperial power is weakened, but the power of the prime minister will be increased! Isn't this the same as having too much power and being prone to problems? ”…,

Tian Fan shook his head and said, "The prime minister can't be set up for life, but a maximum term of office must be set!" ”

Pang Degong asked, "What do you mean?" You tell me in detail! ”

Tian Fan nodded and said, "We can legislate, and the prime minister can serve for a maximum of two terms, each term of five years, so it's good!" ”

Pang Degong asked, "Why two terms?" What about this session? ”

Tian Fan said: "The reason why I say the term is because I think that the prime minister should be elected!" Well, it's a bit like the Mohist thought. After being elected, this term, well, let's say it's five years, and in these five years, if he does a good job, then the next term will definitely elect him! If you don't do a good job, then don't choose him, you can choose someone else! The reason why it is necessary to stipulate that you can only do it for a maximum of two terms is to prevent people from having some troubles if they stay in the phase for a long time! ”

The eyes of the two old men lit up, and Tian Fan was panicked when he saw it! The two old men glanced at each other meaningfully, and nodded slowly!

At this time, Pang Tong asked: "Brother Boguang, listen to your meaning, the prime minister is elected by election, so do you think the people should have the right to participate in the election?" ”

Tian Fan nodded, shook his head again, and said carefully: "It's definitely not right now, the current traffic situation is not good, and the means of communication are not good!" Even if the people wanted to participate in the election of the prime minister, it would not be possible. However, it is up to the people to elect some representatives in their own localities, such as one or two in each county, and then they represent the local people in the election of the prime minister! ”

The two old men nodded again and again, and Zhuge Liang asked, "Brother Boguang, do you think the people can distinguish between good and bad?" ”

Tian Fan shook his head and said, "It's very difficult, the people now are not literate, and it is easy to be bewitched." Just like the Yellow Turban Rebellion, those people were bewitched by the Zhang Jiao brothers. Therefore, it is necessary to increase the knowledge of the people, at least to make them literate, understand some truths, and be able to distinguish between good and bad! ”

Huang Chengyan shook his head and said, "Didn't the sage say that the people are ignorant and easy to manage, I think it's difficult!" ”

Tian Fan said: "What the sage said, I'm afraid it may not be all right!" The phrase that the people are ignorant should come from the sentence 'The people can make it impossible to know it', right? ”

Seeing a few people nodding, he said, "Actually, that's not what that sentence meant!" ”

As soon as this sentence was spoken, several people in the hall were a little surprised! This sentence has always been understood in this way since Emperor Wu of the Han Dynasty respected Confucianism, how could it be wrong?

Pang Degong said: "Oh? What's wrong? ”

Tian Fan said: "The sage has a saying, 'There is no class in teaching'! In other words, the people can be edified! Confucius advocated that different education methods should be adopted for different people! It can be seen that he did not mean that the people were ignorant! On the contrary, he believes that all people have the right to education! And the real meaning of the sentence just now should be: 'The people can make it; No, let it be known! ’。 That is, if the people understand the reason, then leave them alone; If the people don't understand the reason, let them understand the reason! After Tian Fan finished speaking, several people were quiet!

After a long time, Pang Degong said: "Boguang's words, I'm afraid that how many rotten people will be ashamed!" You can say that again! ”

After a while, Huang Chengyan took a deep breath and said, "Boguang, continue with the topic just now!" ”

Tian Fan nodded and said, "So, the people should be educated!" If the people have the ability to distinguish between right and wrong, it will indeed be a trouble for those who rule, and perhaps it will not be so convenient to rule! But if they could distinguish between right and wrong, the Yellow Turban Rebellion would not have happened! ”

Looking at the two old men, Tian Fan said: "The reason for the Yellow Turban Rebellion is that the people are too poor, and the other is that the people have been bewitched!" Let's look at these two conditions, we have just said that we will run schools and teach the people the ability to distinguish between right and wrong, so that the people will not be deceived. The other is that the people are too poor! The question, well, let's talk about what kind of society is stable! ”…,

After saying that, he dipped some wine and drew a spindle-shaped thing on the table. Tian Fan said: "A few people, please see, the thickness of this spindle-shaped horizontal represents the number of people, and the height represents the degree of wealth. You see, the shape I drew is the most stable social wealth structure map! The richest are in the minority, the poorest are in the minority, and the majority are in the middle class. People's hearts are fixed, the social form under this pattern, most people do not lack food and clothing, most people will not rebel, who can stir up chaos in the world? ”

Zhuge Jin asked: "I don't understand what you said very well, but, assuming that what you said is correct, then how can you ensure that most of the people can reach the intermediate level of wealth?" ”

Tian Fan said: "This is not for me to guarantee, well, let's put it this way, national legislation, there needs to be a fundamental law, in this law, to stipulate human rights, that is, some basic rights that the people should enjoy." For example, people have freedom of speech, freedom of belief, freedom from hunger and fear, the right to be inviolable in life and property, the right to participate in elections, and so on! This is fundamental, and only when such fundamental conditions are in place can we break the current situation of the jungle! In this way, when the court and the state formulate detailed laws, they will follow the provisions of that fundamental law, and only those who do not violate it can be passed! In this way, the interests of the people are protected at the most basic level. Only when these basic conditions are guaranteed can we reach the most stable division of social wealth of the kind I have mentioned. ”

A few people were stunned when they heard this, and Huang Chengyan asked, "Boguang, do you support the Legalists?" ”

Tian Fan shook his head and said, "My family doesn't support it, I still think it's best for each family to learn from each other's strengths!" However, there must be a standard for some things, and at this time, laws are needed! The two old men nodded and began to ponder.

After a while, Huang Chengyan asked: "By the way, about the election, Boguang just said the education of the people!" Another point is the problem of traffic and means of communication, what do you think? ”

Tian Fan shook his head, pressed his head that was getting dizzy and dizzy, and said: "The improvement of traffic conditions requires more road repairs and improved means of transportation!" For example, the current universal carriages are two-wheeled, which can be changed to four-wheeled! The load capacity is larger, and the corresponding transport costs are also lower! And the question of means of communication, hehe, this needs to be studied by craftsmen! If one day, craftsmen can invent something that can make two people talk thousands of miles away, it won't be a problem! ”

Pang Tong shouted: "This is impossible! ”

Tian Fan shook his head and said, "There is nothing that can't be done, only unexpected!" Think about it, how many things people thought they couldn't do, but now they haven't done all of them? ”

Pang Tong didn't squeak anymore, thinking about it, it was indeed the case. When everyone used bronze swords thousands of years ago, who would have thought that there would be steel knives now? A thousand years ago, when everyone walked, who would have thought that there would be a horse-drawn carriage to carry it?

The room was quiet, two old men were thinking about their own thoughts, and several young people were dizzy as they listened. They don't understand these things at all, just like Tian Fan said that the prime minister is elected by the people, although Tian Fan explained a lot, they felt that it was too difficult, it was completely impossible, and it was impossible to achieve it at all.

After a while, the two old men woke up. Huang Chengyan said to Tian Fan: "Boguang, I still can't fully understand what you said. Well, if you have time, think about it again, sort it out, and write me a copy. I'll take it back to Xiangyang to have a good look! Tian Fan said: "Okay, with my uncle to make comments, I can also learn a lot!" ”

After the topic was finished, the crowd continued to drink and gossip. Suddenly, a family member came to report that Liu Bei was coming.

Tian Fan hurriedly greeted him out, and several people also followed him. Liu Bei saw a few people from afar, saluted and shouted: "Liu Bei meets the two gentlemen!" Liu Bei followed Sun Qian, Mi Zhu, Chen Deng and others also saluted. Only the old god Chen Qi was standing, looking at the two old men with a smile. …,

Huang Chengyan and Pang Degong waited for Liu Bei to finish the salute, nodded slightly to the other people, and walked to Chen Jue's side, Pang Degong hammered Chen Jue, and said, "You are an old immortal, you haven't entered the ground yet?" ”

Chen Jue smiled and said, "You two old immortals are not dead yet, won't I be lonely when I die?" ”

The three young people saluted Liu Bei and saluted Chen Jue, saying, "Meet Mr. Chen!" ”

Chen Qi finished joking with the two old men and said to the three young people: "Get up!" Well, who are you? I haven't seen it for years, and I can't recognize it! The three of them hurriedly introduced themselves.

Everyone made a fuss for a while, and Tian Fan invited everyone into the house.

After taking a seat, Liu Bei asked: "I have heard the names of the two gentlemen for a long time, and I can't wait to visit as soon as possible, but unfortunately I am entangled in mundane affairs, and I can't do it at the right time!" I don't know, what did the two gentlemen come to Xuzhou for? ”

Pang Degong smiled: "Xuande Gong, let's come over and have a look, and second, hehe, send this offspring to you on duty!" As he spoke, he pointed at Zhuge Jin and continued: "Zhuge Jin, Ziyu, the eldest son of Zhuge Jungong!" After speaking, he bowed slightly to Liu Bei and said, "Xuande Gong, this kid wants to come to you, please take care of one or two!" ”

Zhuge Jin stood up, dressed neatly, bowed deeply to Liu Bei, and said, "The lord is above, please bow down!" ”

Liu Bei hurriedly pulled it up and said, "Ziyu, you don't have to be like this. Ziyu is talented, I have heard Boguang say it a long time ago! I'm so lucky that you're here to help me! After that, he turned his head to Pang Degong and said: "Don't worry, the two gentlemen, although they are not talented, they can still make the best use of their talents!" But don't worry! Pang Degong and Huang Chengyan nodded, which was regarded as a thank you to Liu Bei.

Zhuge Jin's matter was resolved, and everyone continued to eat and chat. Chen Deng, Mi Zhu, Sun Qian and others respected the two gentlemen very much and toasted them many times. And they also asked two people about the problems they usually encountered when they were studying, and these two people did not hide their secrets, and they answered them one by one. A wine banquet is over! Huang Chengyan and Pang Degong followed Chen Jue to Chen's house, while the three young people liked to stay in Tian's house, and Tian Fan arranged them one by one. Liu Bei made an appointment with the two old men, and asked them for advice tomorrow, and returned satisfied!

The next day, after Tian Fan woke up, he remembered what he said yesterday, and couldn't help but be afraid for a while! These words are all words that do not conform to the concept in the hearts of the people at that time, and I really can't figure out why those few people can listen to them!

Without waiting for him to think about it, Huang Chengyan and Pang Degong came. The two old men listened to Tian Fan's remarks yesterday and couldn't sleep, they thought about it for half the night and discussed it for half the night. When I got up early this morning, I came to Tian Fan and wanted him to talk about it in detail. Now, Tian Fan is sober, and he won't say anything if he is killed!

But the two old men did not give up, and as a last resort, Tian Fan said some scientific and technological issues.

Science and technology, two similar but never different concepts. If we apply Chairman Mao's ideological system, science is theory, and technology is practice. Science is the foundation of technological development, and technology can promote the progress of scientific theories.

Our ancestors valued technology over science. It can even be said that when it comes to science, we have always lagged behind, just because we only want to know how to do it, and not why it is so! Perhaps, in the entire 5,000-year history of China, the only discipline we have theoretical support for is traditional Chinese medicine!

Tian Fan cautiously and tremblingly said a lot, in exchange for the silence of the two old men again! After a long sound, Huang Chengyan bowed his head slightly and said, "Not bad!" Indeed it is! What we know is how to do this thing, but we never think about why it is done and why it is good! ”

Pang Degong also nodded and said: "Boguang's words really made me pause!" ”

Seeing that his words successfully diverted the attention of the two of them, Tian Fan couldn't help but breathe a sigh of relief!