Chapter 154 154 Military aid finalized
In fact, in all fairness, 12 Chinoogan flowers 1. 200 million US dollars to get a production license by the way, there is nothing cheaper. And this 1. 200 million is actually military aid from the United States, which means giving it away for free, so it seems that the United States is still very face-saving, and its intentions are naturally to envelop China's little brothers.
After Boeing heard that China was going to buy Chinook, it was also overjoyed, although it needed to give a production license, but limited to the mindset, Boeing did not think that China could quickly absorb the technology of manufacturing Chinook, after all, the alternating twin rotor was more or less a high-tech technology at this time. When transferring technology halfway, use some careful thinking, for example, let the engineer not focus too much, or only give some pale production steps, and keep the details, it will take many years for China to complete the localization. Moreover, Boeing does not believe that China can produce all the parts of this aircraft at once, and when the time comes, if it wants to build it itself, it still needs to buy parts from Boeing, and this money will become its own again.
China's military aircraft market is huge, and Grumman's super order for 150 F-14 Red Tomcats has made many American arms dealers covetous, although the CH-47 order is not as oily as the F-14 deal, but the other business opportunities that have come in the future are also quite satisfactory.
In the case of Grumman, because they formed a cooperative relationship with China through the F-14 project, they also got a piece of the pie in the international version of the Thunder project launched by China later. Boeing and Grumman are not the same, Boeing is now a good mix, and China also ordered some civil aircraft from Boeing a few years ago. And Boeing is not only counting on military products, but also civilian products. Although China now has its own C919, a large passenger aircraft, the 747 class of large wide-body passenger aircraft has not yet been self-produced, and Boeing does not look down on the unfamiliar C919, so they naturally regard China as a big triumphant.
Therefore, Boeing does not feel that it will lose money by selling 12 CH-47 Chinooks plus a production license, considering the potential uporders and the supply of parts, Boeing feels that it can make a lot of money. The Japanese Self-Defense Forces are also equipped with CH-47s, and the number of equipment is only a few dozen, which is much less than that of the US military, but they still have a production license and produce them at Kawasaki Heavy Industries. Considering that the PLA is several times the size of the Self-Defense Forces, and that it is not surprising that the CH-47 is equipped with hundreds of aircraft, Boeing is eager to sign a contract immediately and move towards a better tomorrow.
Of course, if Boeing knew that their so-called alternating twin-rotor technology, the technology of the Red Alert base was more mature than theirs, and the 51-ton super-heavy helicopter double-bladed technology was much more complex than that of the CH-47, maybe they would not have agreed to export the CH-47 to China so readily.
The United States rejected the projects of carrier-based transport aircraft and carrier-based anti-submarine aircraft, because the United States simply felt that China, which did not even have an aircraft carrier, wanted this to be a waste of energy, but it can be seen from this that the ambition of the Chinese navy can be seen, but according to the most optimistic analysis of the think tank, with China's scientific and technological level and economic situation, it will take ten years at the earliest for China to have its own first aircraft carrier battle group. The United States is "kind" not allowed China to spend money so indiscriminately, and the only military aid it has to make good use of it can increase China's military strength and help the United States keep an eye on the eastern and western Pacific regions of the Soviet Union.
As a result, the United States somewhat unexpectedly proposed the technical transfer of the P-3 Orion fixed-wing anti-submarine aircraft to China.
Qi Yiming's analysis that the United States made this plan after careful consideration, first of all, the United States did not know that the PLA was now equipped with an FQ-3VI anti-submarine aircraft (Gaoxin No. 6) with a high degree of performance similar to the P-8C; In addition, during the RIMPAC exercise, the U.S. military saw that the PLA Navy, which had excellent combat capabilities, could use its excellent combat capabilities to contain the actions of the Soviet Union within the first and second island chains.
To some extent, the Chinese navy's combat capability is stronger than that of the Sea of Japan, and the US Navy privately concludes that this is the case. Haizi is actually the anti-submarine detachment of the Seventh Fleet trained by the US military, so Haizi has always focused on building its own powerful anti-submarine forces. Not only has it built the 88th Fleet, which is mainly aimed at anti-submarine warfare, but it is also second only to the United States in terms of the amount of anti-submarine aviation in the world. Judging from the anti-submarine aircraft they are equipped with, Haizi is equipped with more than 80 P-2 anti-submarine aircraft, and after the P-2 is retired, it is equipped with more than 100 P-3 anti-submarine aircraft, and later even developed its own P-1 anti-submarine aircraft.
It is not enough to have the Sea of Japan, and then drag the Chinese to build the anti-submarine net more tightly. The Chinese Navy now has two amphibious assault ships, which can carry more than ten anti-submarine helicopters to conduct super-large-scale searches on the sea, coupled with the excellent performance of the destroyers have a very good anti-submarine level, and submarines are the strength of the Chinese Navy, so the US military believes that the shortcoming is the fixed-wing anti-submarine aircraft in aviation anti-submarine aircraft.
Anti-submarine aircraft such as the P-3 can not only mainly carry out anti-submarine work, but also carry out border patrols and strengthen maritime control capabilities, which is a good deterrent to any actions of the Soviet Red Navy.
So the United States proposed to China to export six more P-3 anti-submarine aircraft to China at a preferential price of 30 million US dollars, and according to the example of the CH-47, the same production license was transferred to China, so that it could produce mass production on its own.
Qi Yiming was a little undecided, because the navy already had about a dozen FQ-8VIs, and at least seventy or eighty more to be produced in the future, and eventually the navy would maintain a fleet of about 100 large anti-submarine aircraft. Let the P-3 plug in, regardless of whether it costs money or not, and the logistics are a bit of a problem.
However, considering that the stones of other mountains can be used to attack jade, there are still a lot of things to learn from on the P-3, Qi Yiming proposed that the transfer of 6 planes for 100 million US dollars can be second-hand goods for the US military, and the technical license will be transferred, and the production license will be obtained.
The U.S. delegation struggled for a moment, but eventually agreed to such conditions. It is also a good thing to throw away the old goods at a relatively cost-effective price and then replace them with new ones, the P-3 already has multiple models, and the US military has some older mass-produced models, such as the P-3A and P-3B, and they will replace the better P-3C with a brain to China. I don't know if Lu Dao was inspired by Qi Yiming, the United States replied directly this time, 18 P-3s cost a total of 200 million US dollars, 12 P-3A early models, and 6 P-3Bs have seven or eight new models.
The P-3 entered active service from 1959, which means that the early models have at least a service period of nearly 30 years, and the earliest P-3 in service should be retired.
In the end, the deal was determined to be $180 million for the purchase of 18 medium-lived P-3s, and the United States thought it had taken advantage, and Qi Yiming actually did not suffer a loss. Even those P-3A, which are close to retirement, will not be a problem if they are sent to the platform of the repair plant, repaired, modified and modified, and served for 15 years. Even if it really can't be used, it is better to throw it into the crushing crane as a material for the manufacture of the FQ-8VI.
This 300 million US dollars was out, and Qi Yiming didn't want to spend it all, after all, it is not common for the United States to give cash in military aid, so he finally stopped purchasing from the United States. The United States also has an additional order of 300 million yuan, which is satisfied.
In addition to the two major items of CH-47 and P-3, there are actually some "waste gifts" that China and the United States have negotiated before. The main reason is that the Chinese side has taken over some of the old armaments scrapped by the United States, such as the Pershing tank and the M48 medium tank during the Korean War, several decommissioned ships that the US military needs to dismantle, and some fighters that need to be scrapped.
During the meeting, the US side also proposed strengthening the communication and liaison mechanism between the two militaries and that it should try to unify the armament system so as to facilitate future side by side operations.
Qi Yiming is also clear about what kind of medicine is sold here, and it is naturally impossible for the US military to unify it into the form of Chinese weapons, and it must be that China has begun to use NATO standards. It is almost impossible for China to abandon its own weapons system, which means that all weapons need to be redesigned, and the negotiators almost say that the Americans are joking. Of course, if the Chinese army really uses NATO weapons, the arms dealers in the United States will have to laugh again.
Originally, neither the Ministry of Foreign Affairs nor the Ministry of Defense wanted to talk about this matter, but Qi Yiming had an idea and made it clear to the Americans: "A certain degree of unification with US weapons is a useful attempt, but it is impossible for our side to completely abandon its own equipment system, so we cannot afford to lose." For a number of reasons, we want to form a group of 'American mechanics' to use NATO-standard weapons, so that when needed, we can use a logistics system to fight alongside our allies. ”
As soon as the Americans heard this, they were also very happy, and they did not expect the entire Chinese army to be measurized, and some of them would be very profitable and valuable in actual combat.
Who knew that Qi Yiming changed his words here: "To create a 'beautiful mechanic', it is impossible without your support." We may try to produce some NATO-standard weapons, and we hope that you will transfer the relevant skills and standards to us, and we hope that the first 'American mechanic' will be built as soon as possible, and the equipment may not be able to keep up, can the United States support our new troops. ”
It turns out that the fox's tail is here, but this so-called American mechanic, that is, a lightly armed fast reaction force, is not fully heavily mechanized, that is, it provides some light weapons, towed artillery and the like, plus some related technical materials and process specifications. The Americans thought that these things were not worth much, and it would be of great value to guide the Chinese army to slowly unify with themselves, so they agreed with their mouths. You can't expect them to send you good things, the list Qi Yiming saw was basically second-hand goods, such as M16 rifles, M101 howitzers, early models of M60 tanks, or something. The number of tanks and armored vehicles is also very small, there are only 60 tanks in a division, and there are not 80 armored vehicles, but some military Humvees have promised to send them.
It's just that the Americans didn't expect that Qi Yiming didn't just want to cheat some second-hand equipment, but planned to rely on the help of the Americans to build a mechanized "blue army", that is, an imaginary enemy army. At this time, the construction of imaginary enemy troops is in the ascendant, and the Blue Army, which is completely close to the opponent in terms of habits and equipment, is very helpful in cultivating the level and experience of its own troops. After this Blue Army division becomes an army, it can become a whetstone for the PLA.
Being close to an American now does not mean that you will wear the same pair of pants as an American for the rest of your life. Qi Yiming made plans in advance, and he also took precautions.