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Li Xiaofeng's words made the conference room silent, because these words were too heavy! It can be said that Li Xiaofeng is strongly questioning the T-28 and questioning Tukhachevsky's idea of army building. Or even a total negation of Tukhachevsky!
This is simply the rhythm of the break, the consequences are quite strict, and the influence is even more immeasurable! This made everyone in the conference room have to quickly think, what is someone going to do?
The closest to a certain immortal is Ubolevich, as the head of the General Armament, when the T-28 project was launched, Li Xiaofeng expressed strong dissatisfaction, believing that the multi-turret tank is simply flashy waste, except for wasting weight, it has no meaning at all.
At that time, Ubolevich knew that Li Xiaofeng did not like the T-28, or rather did not like the multi-turret scheme favored by Tukhachevsky. At that time, however, someone was against it, but at the strong insistence of Trotsky and Tukhachevsky, the T-28 was released and the project was launched.
However, Ubolevich also knew that the temporary concession of a certain immortal did not mean that the problem was solved, and that if the T-28 project did not show the superiority that Trotsky and Tukhachevsky had advertised, someone would immediately turn back.
And now this counterattack has come, earlier and more violently than Ubolevich expected. However, he was a little puzzled that the T-28 was only finalized and was being produced on a small scale. At this time, someone came up and yelled against it, is it too early? At least you have to wait for the T-28 to expose its problems before you can justifiably denounce it, right?
At least Ubolevich himself has not heard anything too big about the T-28. Although it is cumbersome to produce. But problems in production don't mean problems with the performance of the T-28, right?
Actually, Tukhachevsky thought the same thing. He also knew that Li Xiaofeng had always opposed the multi-turret tank, but he always believed that the multi-turret scheme was the best, and believed that after the T-28 entered service in the army, he would tell the world with an excellent performance that his Tukhachevsky's choice was the most correct.
And now, as soon as the T-28 came off the production line, Li Xiaofeng was about to strangle it, which in Tukhachevsky's opinion was completely unacceptable. Suddenly. The red Napoleon was so angry that he almost jumped up from his chair and asked: "Comrade Andrei, what do you mean by these words?" The T-28 is the result of our study of the world's most advanced tank technology and ideas (the source is the British 'Freeman' tank), and in the absence of any evidence, how do you conclude that the T-28 is not up to the task? ”
Trotsky, naturally, was on Tukhachevsky's side, and immediately chimed in: "Indeed, without any evidence to support it, this conclusion is too hasty!" ”
Li Xiaofeng had already made up his mind that the T-28 would not be allowed to waste the precious resources of the Red Army under any circumstances, and this waste must be shot to death. Unflinching, he said, "Attention! I didn't say that the T-28 is not good. It is only at the stage of engineering development that our engineers have more than once expressed doubts about the practical effectiveness of multiple turrets. You have to listen to the experts' opinions, right? And I would like to ask Comrade Tukhachevsky rhetorically, how do you know that the T-28 is up to the task? Do you prove it? ”
Tukhachevsky was speechless, because he was really anxious just now, Li Xiaofeng really didn't say that the T-28 was not good, he only hinted at this indirectly, and asked the T-28 to conduct a self-testimony.
Trotsky frowned slightly, in fact he was not satisfied with Tukhachevsky's expression: "What are you doing in such a hurry?"
However, Tukhachevsky is his man after all, and he can't turn his elbow outward, so he said firmly: "I don't think there is a need for this, we have spent a lot of money and manpower to design this most advanced and complex tank in the world, is it just because of some unwarranted doubts, to sentence the T-28 to death, and let the previous efforts be reduced to ashes?" If we do this, how can we give an account to the Central Committee and to the comrades designers and workers? I think ......"
Li Xiaofeng immediately interrupted Trotsky's words: "Comrade Trotsky, do you think what is what it is?" I must remind you that this is the Military Commission under the leadership of the Party, and it is democratic centralism! Now that I have raised my doubts, Tukhachevsky will have to respond to them, otherwise, I am categorically against letting the T-28 into the ranks of the Red Army! ”
Trotsky looked at Li Xiaofeng with some incredulity, not knowing what kind of medicine someone had taken, and actually not giving him face as the chairman of the Central Military Commission, he couldn't help but think: "What are you kid doing here?" ”
Yes, Trotsky had to start thinking about it, Li Xiaofeng's opposition was too unusual and too resolute, was it just for a T-28? Or does this kid have another purpose?
As a political and incomparably sharp-witted mentor-level boss, Trotsky immediately thought of Lenin's imminent retirement, could it be that what was Sverdlov proclaiming?
At the thought of this, Trotsky immediately became nervous and took it seriously, and it was quite possible that this was Sverdlov's declaration of war, that is, to fire at him, the first successor. If he, the successor, does not show strong courage, then the consequences are unpredictable!
Suddenly, Trotsky's face changed, and he said very solemnly: "I don't understand what you want to do, Comrade Andrei? The launch of the T-28 is a resolution of the Military Commission, do you want to question the decision of the Military Commission? ”
Li Xiaofeng did not answer directly, but said: "The decision of the Military Commission to develop the T-28 is a collective opinion, and I can only obey it." But now that the development work has ended, does the T-28 meet the requirements put forward when it was launched before, and whether it can complete the established combat mission, does it not need to give an explanation to the Military Commission? Isn't it necessary to let the Military Commission see if this project is really that meaningful? Can it provide lessons for future projects? Isn't that necessary? Could it be that we, the deputies of the Central Military Commission, can only stupidly look at those things on paper and sign and seal them? If we do this, it will be irresponsible to the Party Central Committee and the soldiers of the Red Army! ”
This round of confrontation seems to be uneventful, but in fact there is a hidden mystery? The question that Trotsky asked was a hidden evil. Questioning the resolution of the Military Commission. In other words, the previous decision of the Military Commission was wrong. What is the nature of this? This is tantamount to making these people present at the Central Military Commission responsible for this. It's like slapping everyone in the face here!
Trotsky deliberately wanted to lead Li Xiaofeng to the opposite side of the Central Military Commission, and was preparing to use the hands of everyone to suppress him, and such a small means were too hidden and too obscene, and once Li Xiaofeng said with a big grin: "Yes, the previous decision of the Central Military Commission was wrong. That is self-isolation from the "people".
However, Li Xiaofeng was not fooled, he did not say that the Military Commission was wrong at all, but stubbornly withheld the "practical test" to make a fuss, you people who preach how good the T-28 is. Those who must get on the T-28 must always give an explanation to the Military Commission, right? Is the T-28 a mule or a horse, so let the Military Commission take a look at it first, right? If you don't show it to the Central Military Commission, that is the greatest disrespect to the members of the Military Commission here!
In this way, Trotsky's trick was self-defeating, and Li Xiaofeng's words made the members of the Central Military Commission present feel even more comfortable. In particular, those members who opposed Tukhachevsky from the beginning, such as Budyonny, were very supportive of Li Xiaofeng's proposal.
"The T-28 had to be tested close to real combat, and only after passing the tests could this tank be put into mass production! I think this proposal of Comrade Andrei is very good, and in the future, all weapons should not be irresponsibly put into production without being tested by the Military Commission. This should be the norm! ”
Trotsky was naturally not satisfied with this result, and he still wanted to object: "Is this necessary? Weapons are tested after they leave the factory. They have already undergone a test and have been proven to be qualified, so why repeat the test? Isn't this a waste of the country's precious resources? ”
Li Xiaofeng immediately pushed Trotsky back: "Factory inspection? Let the manufacturer test its own products, what can this detect? This kind of test should be examined by all members of the Military Commission and fully supervised by the Military Commission, so that the results obtained are true and reliable! ”
Budyonny, who was still a little dumbfounded just now, immediately chimed in: "Comrade Andrei's construction is very reasonable, this kind of test must be supervised and implemented by the Military Commission, so that the results can be reliable!" ”
Trotsky's nose was about to be crooked, and his words were blocked by Li Xiaofeng one after another, and a consensus was formed, wasn't this a slap in the face? Naturally, he also wanted to object: "This mention should be handed over to the Central Committee ......"
Lao Tuo was ready to deny this proposal in the Central Committee, but Li Xiaofeng did not give him this opportunity: "This is the affairs of the Military Commission, why bother the Central Committee?" I think that now the Military Commission can vote on this proposal, and if it is passed, it will not be too late to submit it to the Central Committee for approval! ”
It seems that no matter what, this will have to pass the Central Committee, but whether or not it is voted by the Central Committee is a key point, and if it is only submitted to the Central Committee for deliberation in the form of a proposal, it will be difficult to attract the attention of the Central Committee members.
However, if the Military Commission votes first, and after the pass, it is submitted to the Central Committee in the name of the Military Commission, and the meaning is completely different. At that time, the Central Committee would only reject the proposal if it was twisted, and generally speaking, it would be directly communicated, and even if Trotsky made another obstruction, the Central Committee would not stand in the way.
So is this proposal in the Military Commission? Naturally, it would be of no avail, even if Trotsky strongly objected, even if he voted against it with Tukhachevsky. Because when the two major factions of the Leninists are on the same page, even if Trotsky is chairman of the Military Commission? The chairman can only be counted as a head, right?
As soon as the proposal to improve the testing behavior of the Military Commission and the establishment of relevant testing institutions is passed, the T-28 can almost be sentenced to death, especially when this new military commission testing agency is under the jurisdiction of the General Armament Department, and a fool can imagine what kind of harsh tests the T-28 will face.
It is indeed rigorous enough, with a total of 12,000 kilometers of long-distance running tests, including summer, winter and comprehensive tests on various terrains. This was followed by live firing and being fired, all in all, an unprecedentedly severe test. All the problems of the T-28 will be exposed!
At the time, however, both Tukhachevsky and Trotsky were optimistic about the so-called state tests. They believe that the T-28 is world-class in terms of design thinking and production. No matter what kind of test it is, it can't bother him. And once the T-28 gets through this difficulty, it will indirectly mean their total victory. In the words of Tukhachevsky: "It's just a matter of time!" ”
Of course, time quickly proved that Tukhachevsky was wrong, the T-28 did have problems, the biggest problem was two, the multi-turret was an out-and-out failure, and this design made the chassis heavier and more complex. There is no benefit at all other than making the tank more expensive, and there are always problems with the operation and coordination of multiple turrets. And because there are too many turrets, which take up more weight, the guide zhì armor can't be forced. In live fire, the T-28 appeared vulnerable, and small and medium-caliber infantry guns could easily destroy the T-28, and this tank used to break through the trenches proved to be really vulnerable!
The T-28 tank, with the intervention of a certain immortal, became a typical anticlimactic product, even if Tukhachevsky repeatedly sang the praises of the multi-turret scheme. Preaching that the T-35 would correct all the mistakes of the T-28 makes no sense. Because he has been proven wrong.
Of course, these are all afterwords, because in this meeting, Li Xiaofeng's target is not only the T-28, but also the Airborne Forces, a certain immortal also has something to say.
Objectively speaking, the performance of the TB-3 bomber was not bad in those days, and there was no problem in accumulating experience in production. But with it with the Airborne Forces, there is a problem. TB-3 is really not suitable for being a transport aircraft, so let's do it honestly! Even if the performance was not good at the outbreak of World War II, it was okay to use it to train bomber pilots.
Li Xiaofeng believes that the Airborne Forces do not possess the functions assigned to them in Tukhachevsky's vision, and in a sense, in Tukhachevsky's view, the Air Force is the artillery of the Army's flight, and the Air Force is the Army's flying cavalry. Xiaotu is ready to use the Airborne Forces as an assault force, and is ready to let the Airborne Forces also be mechanized, which is simply impossible to do under the conditions of World War II (the current US imperialists can't do it).
Let's put it this way, Tukhachevsky was a little ahead of his time, with the scientific and technological strength of the Soviet Union at that time, it was simply not able to meet his needs, and this was also proved in World War II, the Soviet Union, which had the largest number of airborne troops in the world, almost never fought in the way Tukhachevsky envisioned, and completely became a group of elite infantry.
In fact, not to mention World War II, when Tukhachevsky had not yet been purged, and when the Soviet Airborne Forces were still shocking the world with their gorgeous "show", some insiders saw the trickiness in it. Student, who had visited the Soviet Airborne Forces in action, noticed that the Red Army's Airborne Forces were not so much fighting as acting: 11 of the 18 armored vehicles and trucks airdropped were overturned or damaged, and one of them was not even found after the exercise!
In the absence of any interference from enemy fire, the Airborne Forces have "wiped out" three-quarters of their heavy equipment, so what will be the result in the presence of enemy fire interference?
In fact, the Allied airborne operations in Normandy also proved this, and later it was more vividly exposed in Operation Market Garden. The restrictions of the Airborne Forces are too great, and it is okay to bully the weak and play small-scale raids, and if you really want to apply it on a large scale, then be prepared to vomit blood.
And according to Tukhachevsky's urine, this is ready to spend money on the Airborne Forces at any cost, and then this thing went crazy and engaged in some flying tanks. It has caused quite a lot of interference in the construction of the army and done a lot of flashy and stupid things!
Li Xiaofeng didn't want to let Tukhachevsky toss around, especially in the airborne troops. If Tukhachevsky is only engaged in exploration and realization, he will support it with both hands, but when the conditions are not ripe, he will engage in airborne troops on a large scale, and let the airborne troops play an important role in large-depth operations, this is nonsense.
Therefore, Li Xiaofeng's second sword was slashed at the airborne troops, and he resolutely refused to blindly expand the scale of the airborne troops when the conditions were not ripe, believing that the airborne combat mode should still be studied and explored in depth, and should not be in a hurry to expand the scale. Otherwise, the planes, tanks and armored vehicles produced for this purpose will soon turn into scrap metal.
"The Airborne Forces should be based on exploration, and in the next five years, there is no need to blindly expand the size of the Airborne Forces, otherwise, this will become a burden, and it will also crowd out the precious resources of the Red Army!"
Tukhachevsky definitely doesn't like to hear this, but if he doesn't like to hear it, he can't help it, because Li Xiaofeng's mention has won the support of Budyonny and other cavalry generals, and they have always had a disagreement with Tukhachevsky, and they can suppress Xiaotu's momentum, and they are willing to wave their flags and shout.
And not only the cavalry helped Li Xiaofeng speak, but the navy was also helping, the reason is very simple, Li Xiaofeng opposed the navy's plan to focus on the development of submarines, he believed that a normal naval force could not obtain sea power only by submarines and sneak attacks, and when the Soviet Union wrestled with imperialism in the future, it needed a large navy that could compete for sea power, rather than some small navy hiding underwater to sneak attack merchant ships.
And in the eyes of the representatives of the Navy, the speech of a certain immortal simply said that they went to the seams in their hearts, and throughout the twenties, the Navy has been living by patching up the seams, and now that the economy is improving and the country has money, why let the mechanized troops eat meat, and let them continue to eat chaff, and send them away with a few broken submarines, Tukhachevsky, you are dreaming!
At this point in the meeting, Tukhachevsky's head was bigger, and his ears were even more roaring, and Li Xiaofeng almost single-handedly overturned all his plans for 1933 and the future, not only did he completely deny it, but someone also on his plans with contempt!
For a while, Tukhachevsky was angry and anxious, and frequently looked at Trotsky, hoping that the backstage boss would quickly help him speak...... (To be continued......)
PS: Bow and thank you Comrade Juventus!