"We ...... I am very happy to see the establishment of the chip alliance, I am very happy that Huaxia chip has a good opportunity that is rare in ten years, and I hope that everyone will unite to win this scientific and technological war under the leadership of Meow Core. ”

Perhaps, many of the people present are successful people.

They don't worry about food or mortgages, but no matter who they are, no matter what level they reach, they will have a sense of awe.

The "we" in the mouth of this old-timer is where everyone is in awe.

Pei Qianlong was helpless.

The situation is getting more and more complicated, and it is gradually losing control, and today's venue may be just the beginning.

However, this is also to be expected.

It's impossible not to react to such a big thing.

And the attitude of the top is also very clear, the old-timer who attended on behalf of the top is very happy to use two in a row, which is enough to show the support for the chip alliance, and there may be a lot of practical support in the future.

Then the old-timer also affirmed the power structure of the chip alliance.

Obviously, Guo Jia doesn't plan to interfere too much, and openly supports Meow Core, hoping that everyone can listen to Meow Core.

That's a lot of endorsement.

Even with it, the other industries of the cat factory can also be taken care of, provided that you can't mess around, even if it is a board, the same board, it may be very strong to hit others, and it may be two or three points to hit the cat factory.

Others are envious.

They want that kind of treatment, too.

It's a pity that they don't have the technology, none of them at 28nm, let alone 14nm.

I only said the 14nm thing yesterday, and the above gave a reaction today, which is obviously a decision made after some discussion.

Pei Qianlong estimates that at least the chip research institute and the wafer factory will also react.

The research institute of the chip alliance is also on the side of the wafer factory, and it will be moved there after it is built, and there are some factories or something.

After the senior gave a short speech, the conference continued.

This was followed by the handover ceremony of the first 28nm lithography machine.

Mr. Xiao, the vice president of Xia Run Group, received the certificate from Sun Moyu, and the inspection report was attached, proving that this was a fully qualified machine.

They took shit luck and got their first lithography machine.

When the production efficiency is improved, the yield rate increases, and it can also involve some mid-end orders that cannot be undertaken in the past, which are real benefits.

Why?

Just because they have a purchasing supervisor in their family, they have a personal relationship with Kleist's people.

Therefore, there is no absolute fairness in this world, and in the final analysis, it is the exchange of favors and interests.

Others only have envy.

This lithography machine, the R&D cost is not counted, the equipment and manpower are made up by several veterans of the chip alliance, the raw materials, patents, and costs are about 30 million, and the price is 30 million US dollars, which is almost 180 million.

If the cost is removed, one unit will have a profit of 150 million.

It's very cowhide.

This is actually nothing, Huaxin International previously ordered a 14nm process lithography machine from ASML, which cost 120 million US dollars, which is about 750 million Huaxia dollars.

Although there is a generation difference between the two, the difference is four times, and fools know how to choose.

The 28nm lithography machine can process 14nm, 12nm and even 10nm chips after two exposures, but the yield rate will drop a lot, that is, it will increase the production cost.

The problem is that people don't ship it, no matter how good it is, it's good to have a fart.

The one ordered by Huaxin International has now been cancelled.

Orders are placed from the chip alliance instead.

The chip alliance currently has insufficient production capacity, and it takes almost half a month to produce a 28nm lithography machine, and Huaxin International also needs to queue up.

However, they are veterans of the chip alliance, and they are strong, and they will not wait too long in the future.

Lin Dong knew about the chip conference.

He had a faint feeling that the technology he took out was a little too good.

He also swiped Weibo to see how the media reported on the chip, and unexpectedly found that there was no report from the scene, and there was not even a discussion of this chip conference.

Now I finally put my mind at ease.

Then he opened up a certain question to see if anyone had answered a question he had asked yesterday.

His question was, "If a domestic company develops and manufactures a 28nm lithography machine and sells 30 million units, what is the profit?" ”

This kind of question should actually be consulted by the people on Meow Xin's side, a matter of one sentence, but Boss Lin didn't ask - he was backstabbed all day long, and he is now suspicious.

So, he chose to listen to the thoughts of ordinary people.

I posted it yesterday, and there are more than 700 answers today, and I was on the hot list.

Many of the answers are not nutritious, such as this one: "Generally speaking, the subject is a delusional patient, and I really don't understand why there are so many people like this kind of fishing sticker." ”

"Chinese people just like to dream, wake up on the theme, don't dream."

"If we can build a 28nm lithography machine within three years, I will broadcast live and eat Xiang."

Most of them didn't believe it, and felt that it was pointless to discuss the topic, but soon there were some slightly nutritious answers.

"As a practitioner in the chip industry, I can clearly tell the subject that the 28nm lithography machine is really not something we can build, if, I mean that if it is built, the cost of materials alone is likely to be 350 million, not to mention the investment in equipment, manpower, and technology, and there is no profit at all from selling 300 million units, and I really don't understand how the subject's 30 million price came from."

"30 million is actually not impossible, the premise is that we Guo Jia will give a subsidy of 500 million."

"This is an industry with tens of billions of investments at every turn, and the biggest bad debt in our bank a few years ago was a chip company, which tossed for a period of time and lost a lot of chicken feathers; You can't take out the cost of the lithography machine separately, you have to consider the problem of early investment, you might as well ask how much money you need to invest to make a 28nm lithography machine, my answer to this question is at least 200 billion. ”

"A university is studying for a doctorate in microelectronics science and engineering, I don't actually want to answer your question, but since I have seen the present one by one, let's simply say that if foreign technology is licensed, we are not without the ability to build a 28nm lithography machine, after all, we are now able to produce 90nm, but how much does it cost to license technology, this is an incomparable thing, because it involves too many Zheng Zhi factors; Back to the topic, if you give a price to the domestic 28nm lithography machine, I think it should be between 150 million and 300 million, lower than this will only kill the company, higher than this, we will fall into the strange circle of making it better to buy......"

"Don't give money, do you know how much extra investment is required around a lithography machine?"

"Four years ago, I was fortunate to follow the company's delegation to visit the Bay Semiconductor Manufacturing Company and learned about the price of some of their lithography machines, when the purchase price of their 28nm lithography machine was NT$4.3 billion, although now with the mass production of 14nm, the research and development of 7nm, the price of 28nm should be reduced, I think it is not expensive to sell three or five billion Chinese dollars."

Haha, these answers to the questions are all Xiao Kuoai.

Boss Lin looked at the answers one by one with relish, and at this moment, he felt that the whole world was on his side.