Chapter 134: The Big Deal, Bad Idea
If you go back twenty-five years, Spielberg wouldn't have asked such a question at all.
No matter how the Avengers make a fuss, Spider-Man's value always stabilizes the other party.
But people in this era don't know!
Spielberg is a living example if I have to list it, in 1973, when he learned that Warner was going to shoot "Superman", he was very interested in superheroes and wanted to try it, but because the salary could not be negotiated, coupled with the confident belief that "Jaws" would be a success, the whole project was missed by him.
George Lucas also wanted to try it at the time, but because the price was too low, Lucas felt that it was better to make "Superman" with that little money than to tinker with "Star Wars" by himself, so he took the initiative to withdraw at the time of the stalemate.
Marlon Brando, who finally starred in it, was even more awesome, not to mention the 3.7 million salary, but also asked for a box office dividend of 11.75, and required that his filming role should not exceed two weeks, and said that he would not memorize a line......
Although "Jaws" and "Star Wars" both won "Superman" in the end, when they were poor and white, they would rather tinker with their own movies than bother with Warner, so they can get a glimpse of their attitude towards superheroes; And Brando's lion's wide opening also reflects the contempt of the entire circle for the theme of superheroes.
Not only that, but Tim Burton's first "Batman" only had a budget of 35 million, and to put it mildly, most of the money was given to Jack Nicholson......
They like the superhero column itself.
But at the same time, they feel that the influence of superheroes on the box office is not as strong as their own inspiration.
Or, regardless of whether "Batman" is a big hit, they all think that it is a person, a movie that is sold, not a character.
And when these big names have reservations about this kind of movie, the value of IP cannot be reflected at all.
Of course, this is also related to the fact that there was no CGI back then, and in the era when handmade model special effects had to be made by Lucas himself, those studios did not have the technology to put the pictures on the comics on the screen.
So, Spielberg's words, put in the present, there is no problem.
After "HA", "T2", and "HA2", Roland's personal cumulative box office is at least 1.4 billion, and the production cost of the three movies combined has not exceeded 1.5 billion!
The nearly tenfold box office return rate is already able to crush all the IPs on the market!
In the case that Sony wants people, Spider-Man, who can't reflect his own value at all, is garbage......
In this way, Cameron's eyes lit up when he heard the suggestion, but after a while, this guy reacted!
Tyre! They're still beating my mind!
“Look! Look! Look! You're still trying to take over my project! ”
"How can this be called usurpation? I'm just offering a workaround. Even if Cameron shouted hard, Spielberg still smiled with a smile on his cheeks, "If you are worried that you will not be able to direct, then let Roland sign an agreement with you, when the film is established, as long as you are willing and have time to shoot, you are the producer and director, I don't care, this is always okay, right?" ”
"If you're still not at ease, I can also ask George to sign an agreement with you that during the production stage, ILM under Lucasfilm will at least allocate more than 40% of the manpower to do the visual effects...... That way there won't be a situation where you're going to make "Spider-Man" and Industrial Light & Magic is going to be my "Jurassic Park......"
"Hmph......" Cameron rolled his eyes arrogantly, how did he not know what the other party was doing?
Now he is the only one who can get the rights from Carolco's hands, but he doesn't have that much money to waste, and the Jews can buy it at a low price, but they can't pry Carolco's mouth open, and with the cooperation of the two parties, the project is really theirs.
The priority shooting agreement is actually a guarantee, no matter what the circumstances, he Cameron is the first choice.
As for the visual effects?
Hehe.
The reason why he wants to make up the visual effects company himself is because of the disgusting people of Industrial Light and Magic!
Other people's projects love to ignore them, and their own people's projects are desperate.
Don't look at 40% very high, but if you really want to do it when the time comes, it must be a film where the whole company is milking!
"Then the matter is settled, I'll contact Carolco and tell them that Roland wants to buy it, and when things are negotiated, I'll tell you when the contract will be signed." Although he was unhappy, Cameron was still quite active, because he understood that when things were eaten by the Jewish gang, at least invest funds and technical support, and there would be no need to worry, "Roland, you have money, right?" I'll try to talk to you about four million constants, oh no...... You're richer than me! ”
While the other party patted his ass and turned to leave, Roland, who came back to his senses, felt that everything in the world was a little unreal.
'Am I dreaming?' ’
'If you can fry five billion things in the future, you can get four million?' Or did it gnaw off Sony's hands? ’
He pinched his thigh hard, and the pain that went straight to the heavens made Roland grin and take a cool breath, and when Spielberg, who sent Cameron away and turned back, saw his confused expression, the previous smile had disappeared, and was replaced by a look of anger, "Those two guys are really disgusting." ”
"No matter which company the two of them go to, they can go up and down, and it's a mess!"
Don't look at him just laughing happily, but in fact, compared to Cameron's copying coffee table, he who had seen the power of those stupid beepping guys had long wanted to draw a knife and stab someone, "Those two guys deliberately want to sabotage our cooperation with Sony!" ”
"If we do it! The two of them have to get out! ”
In the case of mutual contact, in half an hour, you can actually understand a lot of things.
And Spielberg, too, couldn't just make a phone call.
Cameron was just there, he wouldn't say, now that the people are gone, he won't be patient.
After babbling and babbling, Roland understood what these guys were thinking.
According to what we talked about last year, it was naturally a simple transaction, but in the case that Sony wants to bind, things are not so simple - compared with game copyrights and movie copyrights, people are the most important, and in the case that Spielberg and Roland have no film plans, the whole transaction is actually infinitely bankrupt.
"But no one wants the deal to go bankrupt......"
"So I called and asked ......."
"Do you think the Spider-Man copyright is that easy to buy?"
"Sony only allows you to star, starting at the age of fifteen, and in the next five years, at least three films, each with a minimum of 30 percent, and a maximum of 50 percent of the investment, and hang their logo on the front of the film, only then will they be willing to let go."
Sony does have money, but they're not stupid.
I was pitted by Warner before, and it was because I was new to the school and I didn't know the situation.
Now, of course, they're trying to catch as much as they want.
What's more, the overseas distribution left by Columbia Pictures is a huge treasure, and if they let Spielberg get involved easily, then don't do this business.
I want to pull Panasonic to get it together because Panasonic has money and can help them, while Raspierberg does it because they can make money.
But you want to eat alone and want our channels?
Get lost!
They have been wronged once, and it is impossible for them to be wronged a second time!
"So I'll promise them for you."
"Because Spider-Man is indeed a good thing for you."
"You don't blame me for claiming to give up my investment, do you?"
Faced with the old man's serious inquiry, Roland laughed directly.
If half of the 'perpetual' investment can be exchanged for the right to speak in the overseas issuing company, the business will definitely be a net profit.
Compared to the distribution channel, the value of the film itself is almost negligible.
Because if they were to do it, they wouldn't be able to make just this one movie!
Besides—
"Isn't it a very normal thing for movies to pull investment?"
"Share the risk, that's what you taught me."
"Lucas's Star Wars, Raiders of the Lost Ark, your Jurassic Park, Back to the Future, ......"
"As long as there is copyright, the decision on whether to shoot or not is in our hands, and if we find a guy with money to invest first, it will be easier for the whole project to be approved, because the rest of the investors will be easy to find......"
Hearing such words, the old man nodded happily.
Unless it is a project like "Avengers" and "Star Wars" that is sure to explode and make a profit, otherwise, no company will stupidly swallow all the investment in a movie, not to mention that the meaning of Spielberg's Amberin is not to invest money to make a movie by himself, but that the company holds the copyright, and then sets up a project to find someone else to invest.
To put it mildly, in the case that he only publishes the copyright and a small part of the investment, the producer shares + the director shares + the copyright shares, and the maximum is 28 points, since I can take so much without investing a penny, then why should I spend money?
Looks like you're earning more?
No kidding, the production cycle of a movie is very long, not if it is filmed today, it will be released tomorrow, and the theaters in all countries and regions will give you the money the day after tomorrow, and the normal operation cycle will take two to three years, and in two to three years, the cash in their hands can do more things and collect more copyrights, instead of putting it there and waiting for dividends.
Moreover, there are more investors, and the risk is smaller.
This risk does not refer to the risk of failure in the creation of the film, but the trouble in a series of links such as production, post-production, review, publicity and distribution, which will be reduced a lot, take "Titanic" as an example, Fox and Paramount do it, and in this case, when the movie is released, it is equivalent to one less opponent, because no one wants their project to lose money!
In the case of one less opponent, it is actually equivalent to earning more!
In his previous life, when Spielberg founded DreamWorks, he also used money from Microsoft, South Korea's Samsung, and Chase Bank.
Even if those who are behind withdraw their investment, they will use the money of the group of Kaizi in India......
As for Kaizi of those film companies?
They're not stupid either.
Let's take "Gemini Killer", one point of 400 million investment, Paramount will bear thirty-five, and the remaining thirty-five will be borne by the Sky Dance invested by Penguin, that is, the son of Oracle, and the other twenty-five, which is our Momo's Revival Pictures, and the last five percent is forty thieves...... And in "Dark Fate", Paramount and Fox and Sky Dance each voted thirty, and the remaining ten are still penguins......
Don't look at those film companies shouting about losses every day, the real money-making projects calculated by the Green Light Committee will not be invested by others, but the guys who want to squeeze in will always have ......
Therefore, Roland didn't think about voting for himself at the beginning, and holding the copyright in his hands was nothing more than getting the right to speak.
In the case of everyone holding together, if you can empty the gloves of the white wolf, then there will be absolutely no backlog of funds.
Isn't it good to invest in other projects with higher returns? There's no need to be tough with those investors.
Moreover, many of those investors are aiming for derivatives, what discs, what radio broadcasts, what network on-demand, these things can bring them a steady stream of value...... Otherwise, a company like MGM wouldn't be able to sell at a high price.
That's the charm of copyright, which allows you to earn money while lying down.
Therefore, after knowing that he would definitely get Spider-Man, Roland didn't care who invested at all, and even leaned on the sofa with a much more relaxed posture, "What about the others?" How much are they ready to sell us shares of the issuing company? ”
"I want fifty, but there's no way they're going to give it."
"Of course it's impossible to give, Paramount, Universal and MGM didn't have an equal share of United International Pictures at the beginning."
"yes, so we'll take a step back, forty is necessary, right?"
"Forty? How much does it cost? ”
"How much? Actually, it's quite cheap, "Spider-Man" is guaranteed to be three, and then I am ready to release "Men in Black", as well as the investment rights of my future independent film, of course, there is also a game copyright. ”
"I asked them to spin off Columbia International and re-form a separate overseas distribution company with us, of course, I also emphasized to them that they had to open those two guys before we officially settled in, otherwise, there was no need to talk about ......"
"And, until you and I make any of our first films, we're not going to pay for the distribution company's losses."
Hold the grass ......
That's a big deal!
The old man's game copyright can be priced at 20 million, the "Men in Black" series is also a hit, plus the investment right of an independent film, although it does not say how much the share is, but Sony can earn at least 200 million in the whole transaction, and if you count "Spider-Man", even if you are reducing the price, 40% of the equity is 400 million.
Although Columbia International cannot be worth one billion, because Sony only spent five billion to acquire Columbia, but among them, it is also gambling, Roland has memories of his past life, so he thinks Sony has no loss, but what about Sony?
In fact, there is only one game copyright and three "Spider-Man" and Spielberg's promise of his own movie ("Men in Black" is just a production, and the halo is very small), to put it mildly, they think that Roland and Spielberg's four movies can net 400 million, they have confidence in people, not to bet on projects!
Of course, this kind of result is also what Roland is happy to see.
It is equivalent to not spending a penny, taking an overseas distribution channel for nothing, if it were not for Sony's continuous losses, it would become a laughing stock in the industry, and it is urgent to restore the company's vitality, then this cheapness will never be taken advantage of!
Only the dying will be hungry and thirsty for the bigwigs in the industry, if it is replaced by Fox, Universal, Paramount, Warner, Disney, it is really where to stay! They can only accept a wage earner, not a partner!
"Then it doesn't have anything to do with me, right? I'm just waiting for James' call? ”
"Yes, it has nothing to do with you, "Jurassic" is profitable, keep 10 million first, you contribute to Spider-Man, the distribution company will have your share, I will re-register a company, to eat 40% of the shares of the new distribution company, we will calculate according to the movie project, you have three and I have four, three-sevenths, count your 43% equity, that 10 million, half of "Jurassic Park", in this way, there is no need for others to interfere......
The reason why Spielberg can pull the stall so big, even if he is besieged by the Big Six, can live a nourishing life, the root of it is because he is not greedy, after putting down the guide tube, he is indeed a businessman, but everyone's money, he is clear, Harrison Ford has been filming for so many years, and he has never taken a high price on the "Raiders of the Lost Ark" series, so he will help the other party get it! I misunderstood Tom Hanks before, and when the other party is interested in "Band of Brothers", then we will find an investor!
You can't do this kind of thing by pit teammates, and after doing it once, you won't have any friends.
"You can't make a deal right away, right? At least have to wait for "Schindler's List" to be released? ”
"Yes, sign the contract first, trade after the Oscars next year (94), can't let other companies know that we are doing this, and I will talk to James, we have a fight, so that the outside thinks that I am going to control "Spider-Man", anyway, he scolds you first, even if that group of guys go to check the call history, it will be fine......"
Acting......
Well, it's a shame that these guys can come up with such a bad idea......
However, safety comes first......
Of course, Roland wouldn't ask for the stupid news of what to do if Sony leaked it.
This isn't some kind of's pigeon rally! Sonny is not one of those pigeons! There won't be any serial rings that everyone cooes, and it's even more hateful to ask for leave with an ellipsis the next day, and Sony also wants to do a good job, so ......
After thinking about it, Roland, who found out that he had made a net profit, directly left the matter behind, "Eh, by the way, what is the situation of "The Story of the Emergency Room" that James said before?" I didn't hear you're going to make a TV series? ”
With the idea that I won't lose, Roland's mind suddenly became active.
He has seen "The Story of the Emergency Room", of course, the plot has been forgotten, but there are two people in it, and he is impressed, one is George Clooney, and the other is Juliana Margaris.
Needless to say, although this guy's profitability is shaking very much, his popularity is good!
And people are learning Arnold Schwarzenegger, and they are taking a career in office.
As for Juliana, the most impressive is of course the American drama "The Good Wife......
Of course, they're also Jewish.
"That TV series, you say? I don't even bother to hang up my name, just Amperin participates in the production......"
"Why, don't you tell me you want to make a TV series?"
"There is a big difference between TV series and movies, the lighting, the set, and the narrative structure are all different, just shoot a movie, don't think about TV series, learn two at the same time, it's easy to get confused ......"
Of course, Roland is not thinking about TV series, he is actually thinking about "Friends"!
At the same time as a hundred flowers bloomed in ninety-four years, "Friends" was also born, regardless of whether it is a pseudo-literary youth or a real film critic, it seems that there is no one who has not watched this drama, the point is that this drama also provided a lot of material for "Love Flip Apartment".
Of course, Roland is not interested in the show itself, but ......
Well, after spending a lot of time with these guys, he admits that he's a bit addicted to collecting copyrights.
Before, I couldn't afford it, there was no channel, but now I can afford it, and everyone can do it at any time when they meet.
However, before he could expose his wolf ambitions, Spielberg, who walked to the water dispenser and poured a glass of water, shrugged his shoulders and said, "That's what you said?" I know ......"
"GM's NBC project, I know their president Bob Wright, why do you want a cameo?"
Get......
This special code is really a dimensionality reduction blow.
Roland found a very serious problem, if he really wanted something, he really couldn't ask them.
Because there are only two results when they ask them, one is that they don't know, so Roland has to find it himself, and the other is that they know, but once they reach this level, it is the famous flower owner......
There is no way, the news that can reach their ears is already the best choice that has been filtered countless times.
In that case, then Roland has nothing to mention.