Chapter 92: The Loser

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When Roland's serious words appeared, Perelman, who wanted to deceive the people behind the copyright deal, was stunned for a moment, and within a few seconds, this guy with a cigar and who lived on the Forbes Ball rich list all year round leaned back directly, chuckled lightly If half a minute ago, he thought that Roland really knew that someone wanted to buy the copyright, or that the guys behind him seemed to be interested in Marvel, then now, all suspicions have come to naught, Perelman can say with great certainty, The one who is interested in copyright is Roland himself, because Roland's problem is really 'stupid' and cute.

It's so cute that he doesn't even want to go around in circles.

Putting the cigar to his mouth, he took a deep breath and exhaled it slowly, and when the light blue smoke ring continued to spread, Perelman, who was cross-legged, felt that he could teach young Roland a lesson.

"Roland, do you know why I want James and you to use the way of a movie project to increase the value of the stock?"

"Because I want those investors to know that I have great confidence in Marvel's film and television."

"Now, the entire America comic book market is saturated, no matter what means I use, unless I swallow DC from Warner's hands, Marvel's value will definitely not continue to rise, and its stock price will only stay at the estimated twenty yuan, and this is actually the limitation of the market."

"In this case, let investors focus on the cake of film and television, is the best way to pull up the stock price, James has box office appeal, you have box office appeal, investors will have great confidence in the whole project, they will feel that when I sell the copyright, the agreed box office return of 2 to 5 percent can be returned."

"For example, if the box office is 500 million, then sell the copyright and promise 2% of Marvel can get 10 million, although this 10 million is very small compared with the box office of 500 million, but among them, there is no production cost, no publicity cost, and it is not interfered by the proportion of box office sharing, it belongs to lying there and taking ......money for nothing."

"You guys make movies, and you know much more about box office sharing and operating costs than I do."

"This kind of special effects film, can the cost not come down with 100 million?"

"With a box office of 500 million, it would be very good to have 250 million in hand after removing the share ratio of each country."

"After subtracting the production and publicity, I will count the net profit as 100 million."

"The film company works hard and is busy for a year, so it can only earn 100 million through the box office, and other derivative products such as videotapes are the main source of profits, and we, who have not done anything, can take 10% of the profits of your film by sitting there."

"The most important thing is that we don't authorize these things around toys."

"If the film company wants to sell it, it has to pay us."

"So in this case, how can I possibly sell you all the copyrights?"

"For James's sake, for your sake's sake, I've sold you two sets the most."

"These two sets of copyrights are actually equivalent to injecting a dose of strength into investors, making them feel that our Spider-Man plan is just around the corner, as for the rest...... I don't think you can make movies now. ”

"I've made it so clear, can you understand?"

As a big backer of James Cameron, who can give truck drivers the courage to hold a knife in the future and force Fox's top management to invest more, Perelman doesn't think there will be any problems with his straightforward words.

Since Roland, the kid, happily agreed to his hype plan, then they are grasshoppers on a rope.

Do you want the horses to run fast, and you want the horses not to eat grass?

He couldn't do this kind of thing.

Although he is a jackal on Wall Street, which guy who works with him doesn't make a lot of money?

For them, money is a number, and the constant acquisition of enterprises, mergers and acquisitions is the source of their fun.

It's like many movie star directors hope that their films can be a big hit.

The box office number is their greatest pleasure.

Even if they can't be seen or touched, that is also the greatest embodiment of their value.

And these ...... Roland understands.

The reason why Marvel in later generations was able to ride the dust in valuation and crush DC was not because it opened up the entire industrial chain.

From the creation of comics, to the process of film and television, to the sale of various derivatives to benefit, and then there is Disney's Marvel Park, the purpose of all this is to squeeze out all the value of the entire IP as much as possible.

He also knows that the reason why Perelman wants to go out in person is to let those Hollywood giants eat their own copyrights, because selling cheaply is not his purpose at all, his real purpose is to draw cakes for those investors through cheap sales again and again, so that they can change their initial impression of Marvel and evolve from a comic book company to a copyright licensing trading company.

From a copyright licensing trading company to an upstream production enterprise in the IP industry chain.

After all, the entire American comic market has long been saturated.

If you want to make a fuss about the comics, you will only die a miserable death.

In this way, Roland's 'serious inquiry' is just to see how good the relationship between Perelman and Cameron is, and whether this financial giant will really sell him something.

As for eating it......

No kidding, okay.

Even if he takes out the money to buy Marvel, let alone whether Perelman will sell it to him or not, other film companies will not look at him for nothing, no matter how worthless Marvel is, for Sony, Universal, Fox, MGM and other film companies, it doesn't take too much effort to eat it, not only that, with the Jewish gang, it is even more impossible for Roland to take it alone.

With this kind of eight-figure deal, it's hard not to imagine that it's the Jewish gang who really wants Marvel IP.

In front of the Jewish gang with "Star Wars", the No. 1 IP of America, swallowing the Marvel line IP will really stir the nerves of the Hollywood giants, and this is actually the disadvantage of being close to the Jewish gang.

The Jewish gang can help Roland clear all the enemies on the project and get the best quality resources in the circle, but they have long been a thorn in the side of the Seven Greats since they were restless and owned their own property.

The most beautiful special effects company in the ball, and the largest film and television IP in the ball......

This thing is not owned by capital, isn't that a joke!

Of course, even if Roland knew it, he wouldn't show it.

Under Perelman's careful explanation, he pretended to be stupid and stunned, and then he showed a sudden realization.

"So that's it?"

"Ronald, with you, Marvel stock will definitely rise in a row."

"It's a pity, if I wasn't afraid of being investigated by the SEC, I would have wanted to buy stocks after Marvel went public......"

"I used to buy Berkshire Hathaway ...... for more than 1.5 million yuan of my salary to be safe."

"When I look at it now, I feel like ......"

"Hahaha......" Hearing Roland's layman's investment method, Cameron, who had not opened his mouth since Roland talked about buying Marvel copyrights, immediately laughed, "You bought Warren Buffett's company stock?" ”

"Then what you have to wait for......"

"Warren Buffett has always been a steady guy."

"It is estimated that when you become an adult, your 1.5 million will not become 6 million."

Warren Buffett's company is already very legendary, from seven dollars per share in six or four years to now about to break 10,000 now, it has risen more than 1,000 times, but it is obviously not a good time to enter the pit at this time, and 10,000 per share still wants it to soar directly?

Isn't that a dream?

Of course, this is the opinion of many financial investors, compared with them, Roland knows that by the time the Internet bubble bursts, the unit price of this company's stock can be at least 90,000.

At the time of his crossing, there was no company in this world that could be as stable as it.

"Okay...... James...... If I knew about your relationship with Ronald, I would definitely buy it with you......"

"Don't laugh at me anymore, let's get back to the topic of Marvel characters."

After showing his 'ignorance' about investment in front of Perelman and Cameron, Roland took the initiative to bring the topic back to the film and television rights that Perelman wanted to sell.

"No problem, who do you want?" This time, Perelman's answer was still cheerful.

For him, the two copyrights are just toys thrown to Roland.

Roland wants it, then give it to him!

As long as he takes it, then the hype will be stable.

However, for Roland, these two copyrights are of great significance.

Perelman promised to authorize him for twenty years, so he could buy the copyright and sleep at home with peace of mind.

Can't shoot?

If you can't shoot it, throw it there......

Twenty years!

That's 2011!

Such a long time is enough for him.

In this way, after thinking for a moment, Roland turned around and asked the first goal in his heart.

"Is X-Men sold?"

Before the hot man Kevin Feige made up the movie, in the Marvel IP, in addition to "Spider-Man", the most profitable was "X-Men", of course, even if it was making money, it was making less and losing more.

The first part invested 75 million, the ball box office was 296 million, the second part invested 100 million, and the ball box office was 407 million, which seems to be going up, but what about the reality? The third part directly lost all the money earned by the first two parts.

An investment of 210 million yuan, a box office of 459 million yuan.

This is simply half a lifetime of hard work, returning to the pre-liberation period overnight.

And the last three

"The First Battle", a loss, "Reversing the Future", finally hundreds of millions, "Apocalypse", and ** went back.

As for personal films, that's not to mention.

"Wolverine", which is loss-making, "Wolverine 2", makes a little profit, "Wolverine 3", and has just the same feelings.

As for "Dark Phoenix"?

Can we not mention that shampoo commercial?

So......

Although "X-Men" really has a twenty-year emotional bonus, it ......

This thing is really a street bargain!

Ten movies, only five make money!

There are only two with a profit of hundreds of millions!

To put it mildly, after Fox tinkered with it for twenty years, the entire "X-Men" earned them less than 300 million.

If it is an investment, this transaction is simply a loss to grandma's family!

However, even so, when Roland mentioned "X-Men", Perelman, who was still very happy, shook his head.

"Roland, I'm sorry, this combination can't be sold to you."

"You can look through the annual comic book sales list, except for "Spider-Man", it is "X-Men", and the rest are either "Wolverine", "Pai King" and other personal magazines, or "Fantastic Four" guys ......"

"I can't sell you these characters that are on the sales list."

"If these of Marvel's most valuable superheroes are sold to you, then aren't the hype we talked about earlier all empty? Several of the roles in charge were sold to individuals, so what else do I show to investors? ”

With Cameron here, Perelman has spoken very sincerely.

He almost didn't tell Roland directly, choose two guys you like but are not popular, and I can give them to you for nothing.

Although this kind of behavior is not in line with his previous atmosphere, but the capitalist......

Before signing a contract, their promises are like farts.

However, Roland knows it.

Perelman has said before that "X-Men" wants to sell to a big factory like Fox, so he will definitely not consider himself.

And he asked this sentence because he wanted to know if the other party was willing to sell the combination to himself.

If he doesn't want to sell, then he chooses something else.

And if you are willing to sell......

You're welcome......

"Is it ...... Avengers sold?"

After being rejected twice by Perelman, Roland, who was sitting there, seemed to have a headache, and 'racked his brains' to think for a long time before reporting this combination that appeared at the same time as "X-Men", but its popularity was tepid.

And after decisively rejecting Roland many times, when Perelman heard the name of this second-tier combination, he was finally not as decisive as before, and after a few seconds of silence, he slowly shook his head and said: "This ...... It's not easy to sell. ”

Not easy to sell?

Isn't that just a play?

Roland was overjoyed, but he still looked at the other party with a look of 'why is it so troublesome'.

And under his gaze, Perelman also quickly organized his language, and said: "Iron Man and Hulk I have sold to Universal last year, which is two less, and Thor and Team America belong to the popular characters I mentioned before, so there are two less, so the six founders in the 616 universe can only sell you Ant-Man and the Wasp." ”

"If you don't mind, I can sell it, if you don't have too little, the third- and fourth-tier characters, such as Hawkeye, Swordsman, Phantom World, Black Knight, Black Widow, including S.H.I.E.L.D. Hydra, can all be counted together......"

"As for the Guardians of the Galaxy......"

"It's okay to go in."

Yes......

Perelman said that it was not easy to sell because the combination was almost dismantled, and there was nothing in it at all.

Although from the beginning, he planned to sell some 'garbage' to Roland, but after Roland picked up the 'garbage', he felt that there was always something wrong with deceiving a child who was willing to cooperate with him.

"The Avengers" is popular, right......

What the hell is it that the six founders cut out four and sell them?

The valuable things were either picked up by Universal or authorized to make movies, in this case, all Roland picked up were some leftovers that no one wanted, so it was better to sell the entire worldview to him......

anyway

This kind of thing that has been dissected and cleaned, sold to others, and no one will accept it!

Pure when the waste is well utilized.

However, when Roland listened to Perelman as if he were compensating, he dumped the guys who didn't rank at all like garbage, and packed up the missing "Avengers" worldview and handed it to himself.

He......

I almost didn't laugh out loud with a pig!

That's right, these characters are indeed rubbish now, and after the absence of the Big Four, the entire IP of "The Avengers" will be mostly lost, and there is no investment value at all, but for Roland, this is not important at all!

Just one "Guardian of the Galaxy", he can make a lot of money, okay?

They're here, and they need a fart bike!

Although they relied on the Avengers to get the shooting schedule, the two movies earned nearly 600 million, which is an indisputable fact, although the comics are not as good as others, but the movie, it is much more popular than the IP of "X-Men"!

And now......

Perelman is ready to throw this garbage to himself?

He doesn't laugh, that's so sorry for this bald head!

"Can ......"

"Although I haven't bought the Guardians of the Galaxy comics, this is the copyright I can buy anyway......"

When Roland replied in a relaxed tone, Cameron, who had been watching from the side, shook his head silently in his heart although he smiled on his cheeks, in his opinion, a way to buy things like Roland, I am afraid that I will be deceived to death by others when I go out.

The soul of a group of people has been demolished, and you still buy a fart worldview?

What do you want for S.H.I.E.L.D. Hydra? That's a setting!

Even if you buy it, when others want to shoot, you can also create a villain agency name, which is not in the way!

And what Hawkeye, Phantom, Black Widow......

What do you want them to do?

Something that can't be produced in a single movie, it's a waste of money to hold it in your hands!

There are actually only two who can make movies.

An Ant-Man, a Wasp.

But these two guys who are not popular, aren't they burning money when they make movies?

And if Roland knew what the truck driver thought, then he would laugh at best.

Even if the Avengers are broken, he has to buy it.

And the reason is actually very simple.

When Spider-Man is being held by a truck driver, the Fantastic Four has been sold, and the X-Men are about to be sold by Perelman, he is buying the severed Avengers that no one wants, the slugger and Hydra that can't be sold at a price, and picking up the Guardians of the Galaxy that no one looks at at all, what cards does Marvel have in his hand to play?

Gone......

The reason why Marvel in the previous life was able to turn over with the Avengers was because Kevin Feige conceived the cow beep?

No......

It's because they don't have any combinations in their hands that they can play.

As long as there is Spider-Man and X-Men, Kevin Feige will not use the Avengers.

Otherwise, why did he have to find Fox first and propose a series of movies in the mutant universe, instead of communicating with Marvel executives first and organizing his own Avengers?

Kevin Feige is indeed a cow beep, but it is difficult for a clever woman to cook without rice, and this sentence is not said in vain!

I, Roland 91, have hollowed out your last hole card of Marvel, do you want to turn over?

Come and beg me......

After all, compared with asking other film companies to redeem the IP, it seems to be the easiest way to ask Roland to give up garbage.

Of course, while Perelman nodded in agreement, Roland also came up with an idea to collect IP.

Iron Man and Hulk have been sold, but Thor and Team America are not?

Never mind!

I can still buy Roland!

Didn't Fox have a sequel to Home Alone in mind?

Yes, you can exchange it for IP.

Now, these four IPs add up to less than a million, as long as Fox can get it, he can immediately communicate with Spielberg, who treats himself as a shadow, what fifteen million? Just give up! The two parties signed a sequel contract at a price of 10 million, of which 1 million was used to pay off the debt with IP!

Junk IP for a hot sequel!

After this village, there will be no such shop!

As long as the other party is willing to agree, it is a win-win!

Fox gets the sequel guarantee, and Roland gets all the garbage.

Perfect!

And after deciding to buy the dilapidated Avengers and the votes of S.H.I.E.L.D., Hydra and Guardians of the Galaxy, Roland and Perelman didn't bother more about the specific number and role, because there will be special people to talk about those things.

As for the second goal?

While eating all the 'garbage', Roland had nothing left to buy.

Although he really wants to buy Deadpool and buy this R-rated box office champion, considering that the role of Deadpool only came out in February this year, it is better for him not to mention it.

What's more, even if he mentions it, he can't buy it.

Because of this thing, there is no story plot at all!

In this way, after finalizing the intention to buy the plan, Roland's whole person became comfortable, and in stark contrast to him, Perelman, who was more comfortable after cleaning up the garbage, and the truck driver who felt that Roland had lost to his grandmother's house.

Because......

When Roland heard Perelman say that "X-Men" cost two million, he also agreed to Perelman's proposal for the total price of garbage packing, which is one million......

A million!

The copyright of half of "Jurassic Park"!

What a loser!

However, even if Roland saw what Cameron was thinking, he didn't mean to explain.

After raising the juice and touching Perelman's wine glass, the two sides who became temporary allies chatted even more happily.

When Roland wondered what the trucker who had been silent and witnessed the completion of the deal after Roland was curious about what he would get after he got the broken Avengers as a hype payment, Perelman, who was in a good mood, shook his head and said

"You'll know about this tomorrow."