Ji Dong's complexion kept changing, and he thought about Xun Wanshan's story over and over again in his mind, and it was difficult to come back to his senses for a long time.

I have to say that what Xun Wanshan said made him feel like an eye-opener, and it was not until this moment that he realized how colorful this world was.

Originally, he thought he knew enough things, but now it seems that he doesn't know anything at all, and perhaps, only when he really stands on a supreme height, can he understand what kind of existence this world is.

"Countless big worlds, teleportation channels connected to each other, it sounds really desirable!"

After a long time, he took a deep breath, slowly suppressed the shock in his heart, and then licked his lips.

"Apprentice, the first thing to pay attention to is to be down-to-earth, step by step, to tell you these secrets for the teacher, just to open your eyes, you must not think too much, you know?"

Seeing Ji Dong's flickering gaze, Xun Wanshan always felt a little relieved, so he hurriedly continued to tell Ji Dong.

"Hehe, the master can rest assured that the disciple knows what to do when and when to do it, otherwise, the disciple will definitely not be able to go today." Hearing Xun Wanshan repeatedly mention his face, Ji Dong couldn't help but feel a little funny, and replied with a smile.

He could think of what the other party was worried about, but in fact, he knew best that the other party's worries were all unnecessary.

He has been able to go all the way to where he is today, mainly because he is calm, although he knows more and more secrets now, but the more this is the case, the more he will pay attention to accumulation, and he will definitely not lose his heart.

"Well, you must know it yourself, now you are not the time to be ambitious, you are only in the realm of the Tribulation Realm now, the top priority is that you must improve your cultivation as soon as possible, when you can reach the Law Aspect Realm, or even the Heavenly Rank Realm, you can be regarded as a strong person, and before that, you had better put your posture to the lowest."

Nodding, Xun Wanshan was still extremely satisfied with Ji Dong's attitude, he actually knew in his heart that if other people had Ji Dong's identity and strength, I am afraid they would have already been fluttering.

"Disciple understands." Smiling slightly, Ji Dong nodded obediently, and then continued, "Master, tell your disciple about our Yanhuang World, I heard Master say before that there are many sects in our world, I don't know what kind of existence these sects are?" ”

Other worlds are too far away from him, for now, he better figure out the world in front of him first, after all, if he wants to become strong, he still needs to get resources from the world in front of him.

"The Yanhuang world is vast and boundless, and there are countless famous mountains and rivers, as well as countless rivers, lakes and seas, these famous mountains and rivers and lakes are rich in resources, and finally they gather countless strong people, and over time, these strong people gather together, and they form one sect after another, just like the Qingying Sect that we are about to go to."

Hearing Ji Dong ask about the Yanhuang World, Xun Wanshan thought about it for a while, and then began to tell it again.

Although he is not very clear about the nature of the world, he still has a good understanding of the current pattern of the Yanhuang Great World.

"There are a total of thirty-six super sects in the Yanhuang Great World, of course, in addition to these thirty-six super sects, there are many slightly smaller sects scattered all over the place, our Qingying Sect is one of the thirty-six major sects, but the Qingying Sect ranks relatively low among the thirty-six major sects, and the overall strength is also a little weaker."

Speaking of this, a trace of helplessness flashed in his eyes, and he didn't know what he thought of!

"Shizun said that the Yanhuang Great World is vast and boundless, in this case, how can Shizun determine that there are only thirty-six major sects in the Yanhuang Great World? Could it be that there are some sects whose strength is actually stronger than that of the thirty-six major sects, but they are just remote and unknown. ”

If you don't understand, just ask, he does have such doubts in his heart, of course, he has to ask to understand.

"Hehe, you're right, maybe there will really be forces in the Yanhuang Great World that can compete with the thirty-six major sects, but that kind of force must be too far away from the thirty-six major sects, at least from the current statistics, it can be regarded as a super sect, and there are indeed only thirty-six."

Smiling slightly, Xun Wanshan still appreciated Ji Dong's questions, in his opinion, young people should be thoughtful, rather than believing what others tell them!

"Dare to ask Master, what kind of sect can be regarded as a super sect?" With a flash of his eyes, Ji Dong completely opened the conversation box at this time, but he felt that he had countless questions to ask the other party.

"If you want to enter the ranks of the super sect, the first thing is that your own strength must pass, to put it bluntly, you must have a strong person in the Cave Heaven Realm, if there is no super strong person in the Cave Heaven Realm, then even if the strength of this sect is very strong, it cannot be called a super sect."

"Cave Heaven Realm? What kind of realm is that?! ”

Hearing this, Ji Dong's eyes suddenly widened, and he asked subconsciously. He knew that above the Platinum Realm was the Law Phase Realm, and there was also the Heaven Realm above the Law Phase Realm, but he really didn't know much about the Cave Heaven Realm.

"Hehe, the Cave Heaven Realm is a realm that you can't imagine now, so you don't need to know too much, just write it down in your heart." Waving his hand, Xun Wanshan didn't explain too much to Ji Dong, but continued, "By the way, there is one thing that I want to explain to you in advance, the thirty-six major sects are all behemoths that you can't imagine, even if it is the Qingying Sect that is behind in strength, it also controls the territory of hundreds of millions of miles, and in the range of hundreds of millions of miles, there are many talented people who are talented, and when you arrive at the Qingyin Sect, you must not take the initiative to provoke those geniuses." ”

All along, he actually wanted to remind Ji Dong of this, but he was worried that it would cause pressure on Ji Dong, but now he knows more and more about Ji Dong, but he knows that Ji Dong is not a person who is afraid of pressure at all, since this is the case, some things can naturally be said to Ji Dong.

"The principle of the disciple is that if people don't offend me, I won't offend anyone, but if someone wants to ride on my head, then don't blame me for being ruthless."

Hearing Xun Wanshan's reminder, Ji Dong couldn't help but raise his eyebrows, and said in an indifferent tone.

"It's a good person who doesn't offend me, I don't offend people, your idea is really good, but, many times, you experience more, maybe it's the four words that you can't help yourself!"

Hearing Ji Dong's words, Xun Wanshan was noncommittal, and as he spoke, he also raised his eyebrows at Ji Dong and continued to give Ji Dong a preventive shot.

The moon set and the sun rose, and the time of the night passed quietly in the conversation between Ji Dong and Xun Wanshan's master and apprentice, and after this whole night of conversation, Ji Dong can be said to have opened his eyes, and he has a lot of understanding of the Qingming Sect and even the entire Yanhuang World.

Speaking from the heart, after learning about the richness and colorfulness of the Yanhuang Great World, Ji Dong was really full of expectations for the upcoming life of the Qingying Sect.

The sky was bright, and the master and apprentice embarked on the journey again, and this time, Xun Wanshan did not compare the speed with Ji Dong, the two of them were like walking, walking on the territory of the Great Qin Dynasty without hurry, and while hurrying, Xun Wanshan did not stop mentioning and infiltrating Ji Dong.

For Xun Wanshan, the closer he is to the Qingying Sect, the shorter the time he can stay with Ji Dong, so he must seize this time to connect with Ji Dong as much as possible and promote the relationship.

He knew best in his heart that although the Qing Ming Sect was full of competition and danger, it was really much better than the corners of the Great Qin Dynasty, once he arrived at the Qing Ming Sect, many people would forget what their original intentions were, and they would gradually be corrupted by the beauty of the Qing Ying Sect, and they would not even remember the people who had been kind to them.

Frankly speaking, he was also worried that Ji Dong would forget the Great Qin Dynasty and the True Martial Saint Academy, if that was the case, then his dedication and expectations to Ji Dong would become a dream in vain.

Speaking of which, the Great Qin Dynasty has sent countless geniuses to the Qingying Sect, and many of them have made remarkable achievements, but those who have achieved something have probably never thought of returning to the Great Qin Dynasty in their lives to repay the family that raised them, as well as the academy and holy academy that cultivated them.

To put it bluntly, a person who has stepped from hell to heaven will never think of going back to hell to continue to suffer, unless he has enough rights in heaven to transform hell, but unfortunately, the people who have walked out of the Great Qin Dynasty have not yet been able to reach that height and realm............

Time flowed, in the blink of an eye, three days passed quietly, and three days later, Ji Dong and Xun Wanshan finally walked out of the territory of the Great Qin Dynasty and came to the endless wilderness outside the Great Qin Dynasty.

For Ji Dong, he had also had the experience of leaving the territory of the Great Qin Dynasty before, so he didn't feel too novel, and in addition, although it was desolate outside the Great Qin Dynasty, it was actually not much different from some deep mountains and old forests, but the scope was a little larger.

Out of the Great Qin Dynasty, Xun Wanshan directly took Ji Dong to a plain and stopped, this plain can not see the edge at a glance, giving people the feeling that it is simply open, even if there is any target dozens of miles away, you can directly see it clearly.

"What an open plain, Master, are we going to wait here for the others to come and gather?"

Standing on this open plain, Ji Dong raised his eyes and looked into the distance, and suddenly felt open-minded and free.

"Yes, every time we go to the Green Netherworld Sect, we will reunite here, and then march towards the Green Netherworld Sect together, speaking of which, this is also our last happy land."

Smiling slightly, Xun Wanshan was obviously very familiar with this plain, in fact, every time he came here, he would also feel open-minded and indescribably comfortable.

"The Last Promised Land? So, the rest of the trip will be dangerous?! ”

Hearing Xun Wanshan's words, Ji Dong was slightly stunned and asked subconsciously.

"It will be very dangerous, at the moment we are still far, far away from the Qing Hades Sect, along the way, we have to cross a lot of barren mountains and mountains, as well as some deserts and Gobi, and there will even be an extremely complex and changeable dangerous environment, if we are unlucky, even the people of the Platinum Realm have the possibility of falling."

nodded, Xun Wanshan did not hide it, and directly introduced it to Ji Dong.

If you want to reach the Qing Ying Sect, of course, it will not be so easy, the journey to the Qing Ying Sect can be said to be full of dangers, otherwise, he will not personally escort it.

"This ......... How can there be so much danger? Tugging at the corners of his mouth, Ji Dong didn't expect that the road to the Qing Ying Sect would be so uneventful.

Even the powerhouses of the Platinum Realm have the possibility of falling, so you can imagine what they will encounter along the way!

"The Qing Ying Sect controls the eight dynasties in its hands, and these eight dynasties are far away from the core of the Qing Ying Sect, and it can be said that they are the most marginal areas within the Qing Ying Sect's sphere of influence, and among the Qing Ying Sect's jurisdiction, there are many dangerous and desperate situations, and we have to go around many places when we go to the mountain gate of the Qing Ying Sect this time."

Seeing Ji Dong's surprised appearance, Xun Wanshan shook his head with a smile, and then continued to explain to Ji Dong.

Speaking of which, this is a strong man like him, if he is a person in the ordinary platinum realm, I am afraid it will be difficult to determine the direction of the Qing Ying Sect, and maybe he will get lost in the danger everywhere when he walks.

"This ............"

With a look in his eyes, Ji Dong had a more intuitive concept of the huge sphere of influence of the Qing Ying Sect.

"Okay, let's not talk about this, it is estimated that it will take a few days for others to reach here, and in these few days, you can cultivate here with peace of mind, speaking of which, it is time to teach you the other two masteries of the master."

Shaking his head, Xun Wanshan's eyes narrowed slightly, facing Ji Dongdao.

He has a total of three fame skills, and the Dragon Body Method is only one of them, and judging from the current situation, Ji Dong's mastery of the Dragon Body Method has reached a great level, and he believes that the other two skills should not be too much of a problem for Ji Dong.

The others estimated that it would be at least a few days before they could get here, and until then, he hoped that Ji Dong would be able to comprehend his other two skills, and at that time, the connection between him and Ji Dong would become even closer.

"Hehe, the disciple has been waiting for the master to teach the other two masteries, the master can rest assured, the disciple will definitely practice the skills of the master, and use the skills taught by the master to make a name for himself in the future!"

Hearing Xun Wanshan mention his other two masteries, Ji Dong didn't have the heart to care about anything else, and suddenly came to his senses, and his face was full of anticipation.

Xun Wanshan's peerless learning will naturally not be comparable to ordinary skills, this point, he can feel one or two from the dragon body method that he has already cultivated, and he thinks that after he has cultivated the other two peerless skills of the other party, his combat effectiveness will definitely be able to go further, so as to better settle down in places such as the Qingying Sect.

Ji Dong had actually explored with Hong Lao about his master's three masteries, needless to say, as for the other two masters, one is the palm method, the other is the knife method, the palm method is called the Baidian palm, and the knife method is called the Sky Breaking Knife, and compared with these two masters, the level of the dragon body method is actually slightly lower.

This is also one of the reasons why Xun Wanshan left the Dragon Body Method to him, but he did not leave the other two masters.

In terms of Ji Dong's level of realm at that time, even if he left the Hundred Stacks of Palms and the Sky Shattering Sword to him, he might not be able to cultivate, and even if he could, I am afraid it would be difficult to use it at will.

The Hundred Stacks of Palms is a very terrifying palm technique, the level has reached above the Heavenly Level, if you want to cultivate skills of this level, then at least you have to be a strong person in the Heavenly Tribulation Realm, originally, Xun Wanshan was still a little hesitant to teach this palm technique to Ji Dong, after all, although Ji Dong has advanced to the Platinum Realm, it is just a matter of entering the Tribulation Realm, not even the platinum section, and it is even far away from the Heavenly Tribulation Realm.

But after seeing Ji Dong's dragon body technique, he believed that with Ji Dong's skill and talent, he could try to cultivate the Hundred Stacks of Palms, so he finally made this decision.

The Sky Breaking Sword Technique is similar, and the level is also above the Heavenly Rank, but the power is still above the Hundred Stacks of Palms, even Xun Wanshan himself rarely uses it easily, if Ji Dong can practice this Sword Technique, the challenge of leapfrogging is simply extremely easy.

Xun Wanshan taught the two divine skills to Ji Dong without hesitation, and explained some of the problems in the cultivation of these two divine skills one by one, so as not to make Ji Dong take the wrong road.

In fact, in terms of Ji Dong's current spiritual power, even if Xun Wanshan didn't explain, he could easily comprehend these two skills, but he couldn't live up to his master's painstaking efforts, so he could only let the other party explain.

In this way, Xun Wanshan spent half a day explaining the Hundred Stacks of Palms, and another half a day explaining the Heaven Breaking Knife, until he finished explaining all the places that should be paid attention to, he left time for Ji Dong himself, and let Ji Dong start cultivating alone, while he was not far away to protect Ji Dong's Dharma, while waiting for the arrival of others.

"This hundred stacks of palm techniques are really powerful, and they can continuously stack the palm power, in this way, even if it is a person who enters the realm of robbery, when he casts the palm technique, he can also play the attack power of the strong person of the platinum section, and even the attack power of the strong person of the heavenly tribulation realm, which is extremely powerful, but this kind of sharp palm technique is probably not something that ordinary people who enter the realm can cultivate, and the superpower power that needs to be consumed is also terrifying."

Sitting on a green grassland, Ji Dong's spiritual power continued to deduce the essence of the hundred stacks of palms, and it was almost more than an hour, and he had already comprehended this powerful skill.

I have to say that the power of the hundred stacks of palms is really terrifying, but the disadvantages of such skills are not small, the first point is the consumption of superpowers.

The so-called hundred stacks of palms is to attack hundreds of palms in an instant, and each palm is real, without any false moves, in this way, it needs a lot of superpower as support, and if a person who enters the robbery realm instantly swings hundreds of palms, I am afraid that the superpower power will be drained all at once, and if you fail to solve the opponent with one move, the unlucky one must be yourself.

Of course, it doesn't mean that a hundred stacks of palms must be swung as many as a hundred palms, in fact, those who can really make a hundred palms in an instant, even if they are strong in the Heavenly Realm, it is impossible to do it, at least Xun Wanshan can't do it, according to Xun Wanshan himself, he is now nothing more than practicing to the superposition of thirty palms.

"I must practice this palm technique, even if it is difficult for me to do a hundred palms now, but at least I can superimpose thirty palms, which can be regarded as a fatal killing move!"

After deducing his spiritual power at a high speed, he estimated that he should be able to perform thirty stacks now, but as long as he practiced diligently, it was not difficult to achieve forty stacks, and his superpower power was endless, and he didn't have to worry about being drained by the palm technique.

Of course, as his cultivation continued to improve, he believed that sooner or later he would be able to achieve the realm of a hundred palms superimposed, and at that time, I am afraid that no one could imagine what kind of power it would have.

"This Sky Shattering Knife Technique is even more terrifying, however, I have created my own Hurricane Knife Technique, this Sky Shattering Knife, I still integrate it into the Hurricane Knife Technique, in this way, my Hurricane Knife Technique has suddenly improved by a few grades!"

He has engraved these two masteries in the Divine Mansion, and he can study whichever one he wants, and he has to practice the Hundred Stacks Palm Technique, and he has to practice the Sky Shattering Sword Method after integrating it into the Hurricane Knife, I believe that with these two skills, his combat effectiveness will definitely increase by several levels.

"Let's try to cultivate these hundred stacks of palms first, it's rare for the master to teach me such a divine skill, so I have to let him see my results."

Ning Xin calmed down, he put aside the Heaven Shattering Sword Method for the time being, and then began to slowly cultivate according to the method of the Hundred Stacks of Palms and the results of his own spiritual power.

The entire set of palm techniques has been analyzed countless times by his spiritual power, and at this time, it can be described as hand-to-hand cultivation, but Ji Dong didn't want to let himself behave too demonically, so he didn't reveal it too early.

"It's almost, I've mastered the method of moving the hundred stacks of palms, it's time to try to really show it, the first time I cast it, let's have a ten-palm superposition!!"

Two days later, Ji Dong had studied the theory to the extreme, but at this time, he felt that his palms had become a little itchy.

"Open !!"

At a moment, his eyes suddenly opened, and at the same time, terrifying superpowers quickly converged towards his palm, and as he spoke, his body moved, and he had already jumped up from the ground, and at the same time slapped his palm to the ground.

"Buzz !!"

It seemed to be a palm, but at this moment, Ji Dong slapped a full ten palms one after another, and each palm print was superimposed in a very strange way, and it hit the grass in the blink of an eye.

"Boom !!!"

The thick palm print slapped on the ground, and suddenly, a terrifying roar was transmitted, and in an instant, the sand and soil flew in all directions, and the ground that was slapped by Ji Dong directly exploded a huge pit, as if it was hit by a divine stone outside the sky.

"Hey, this ..............."

At the moment when Ji Dong jumped up, Xun Wanshan, who was not far away, noticed it, and opened his eyes for the first time, and then he saw Ji Dongshi's ten palms superimposed.

"This ......... I got into it so quickly?!! ”

His eyes widened, but Xun Wanshan at this moment was once again frightened by his disciple.

In Xun Wanshan's mind, no matter how talented Ji Dong is, a skill like a hundred stacks of palms may take ten days and half a month to comprehend, but it is absolutely impossible to use it at will within three or two days.

But in just two days, Ji Dong actually performed ten palms superposition in front of him, and it was directly superimposed with ten palms, without any transition, such a terrifying situation, he really couldn't believe it for a while.

"How is that possible? Two days to practice directly into ten palms superimposed, this ......... That's an exaggeration, isn't it? Taking a deep breath, he really felt like he was dreaming at this moment, and if it weren't for the fact that he hadn't slept in a long time, he would really think he was dreaming.

"Hahaha, amazing, really amazing!!"

At this moment, Ji Dong's figure, who had already performed a hundred stacks of palms and ten palms, flashed, and he came to Xun Wanshan's approach.

"Master's hundred stacked palms are really powerful, the disciple has just achieved ten palms superimposed, and the attack power is more than ten times stronger, if you cultivate to the superposition of a hundred palms, I really don't know what kind of scene it will be!"

When he came to Xun Wanshan, Ji Dong couldn't help but laugh aloud, and his laughter was full of joy.

He really likes this hundred stacks of palms too much, judging from the performance of Shicai, the power of this palm technique is probably above what he expected, and he is only ten palms superimposed, in fact, if he wants, he can completely do twenty palms superimposed, but he is worried that if he hits twenty palms at once, his master will be frightened.

Now it seems that even if the ten palms are superimposed, this master of his seems to be very surprised.

"Apprentice, you......... How did you get to the Hundred Stacks so quickly? Haven't you practiced before?! Taking a deep breath, Xun Wanshan tried to calm himself down, and then asked with a solemn face.

"Shizun said and laughed, how could a disciple practice a hundred stacks of palms, but the disciple felt that this palm technique was very compatible with the disciple, so it was easier to cultivate, and I hope that the master will know it."

Hearing Xun Wanshan's words, Ji Dong shook his head with a smile, but he was a little speechless in his heart. It was also fortunate that he didn't use twenty palms at once, otherwise, this master of his would probably think that he had cultivated a hundred stacks of palms.

"Phew, it seems that the teacher's understanding of you is really far from enough!!"

After listening to Ji Dong's explanation, Xun Wanshan's face changed, but in the end, he shook his head, full of emotion.

He actually believed that it was absolutely impossible for Ji Dong to cultivate more than a hundred stacks of palms, as for why Ji Dong was able to practice a hundred stacks of palms in just two days, and he directly practiced to ten stacks of palms, there must be a reason he didn't know.

In the final analysis, it was because he knew too little about Ji Dong, and now that he thought about it, Ji Dong was able to cultivate from the early stage of the Golden Stage to the Platinum Realm in less than three years, which seemed to be an unbelievable thing, but this kind of thing really happened.

"I also ask the master to comment on the disciple's suitability, so that the disciple can continue to improve and improve."

Ji Dong didn't pick up the other party's words, but raised his eyebrows and deliberately diverted the topic.

"Your palm is already very good, and the superposition of ten palms has basically achieved the effect of overlapping strength, but it is just a little rusty and not round, I think as long as you practice diligently, you should be able to do better."

Hearing Ji Dong's words, Xun Wanshan couldn't help but think back to the scene when Ji Dong cast a hundred stacks of palms, and now in retrospect, Ji Dong did have a lot of problems when he cast a hundred stacks of palms, but he was only shocked just now, but he ignored a lot of details.

Of course, no matter how many problems there are with Ji Dong's palm, it can't hide the light of Ji Dong's practice of hundreds of palms.

"Thank you for your advice, my disciple has written it down!"

Hearing this, Ji Dong hurriedly bowed and said with a teachable expression.

In fact, most of the shortcomings and loopholes of his talent are actually deliberately done by him, and if he directly casts a flawless palm, then there is really no way to explain it.

"Apprentice, it seems that there is really nothing for the teacher to guide you, you can practice a hundred stacks of palms so quickly, it is estimated that there will be no problem with the Heaven Breaking Knife, and when you arrive at the Qingyin Sect, you must practice these two divine skills diligently, supplemented by the Dragon Body Method, there should be no problem with self-protection."

Looking at Ji Dong in front of him, his heart was suddenly filled with endless expectations, judging from the talent shown by Ji Dong, once he joined the Qing Ming Sect, he would one day become a big man in the Qing Ming Sect.

"The disciple wrote it down." Smiling slightly, Ji Dong nodded to show that he understood, "It's still early, and the disciple wants to continue cultivating for a while, and strive to complete these hundred stacks of palms as soon as possible." ”

"Well, grasp every minute and every second to cultivate, this is the quality that a superpowered person should have, you can rest assured that you can cultivate, there will hardly be disturbed by fierce beasts in this plain, in addition, the teacher will continue to protect the Fa for you, and will definitely not let any factors interfere with you."

Hearing that Ji Dong still had to cultivate, Xun Wanshan was simply satisfied.

A young man with outstanding talent and who also knows how to race against time, not to mention that the other party is his disciple, even if they are irrelevant people, he will definitely like such a young man very much.

While speaking, Ji Dong found a place to sit down again, and seemed to continue to cultivate the hundred stacks of palms, while Xun Wanshan also sat down not far from Ji Dong, continuing to play the role of Ji Dong's guardian.

In this way, the two of them went about their own things, and after almost another day, a team of six people appeared far away on the plain, but someone finally arrived.

And with the arrival of the first team, the other five teams also rushed over one after another, and when night fell, the last team finally came late, and at this point, the thirty-two people from the True Martial Saint Academy who went to the Qingyin Sect this time, plus the six Platinum Realm elders and Dean Xun Wanshan, finally gathered together again.

When he saw that everyone had arrived safely, although Xun Wanshan's face was silent, his eyes couldn't help but flash a hint of relief.

Obviously, he had been worried about what would happen to these teams, you must know that the number of disciples sent by the True Martial Saint Academy to the Qing Ying Sect this time had already shrunk severely, and if he lost one or two more teams, there would really be no way to make a difference.

Xun Wanshan was relieved, but Ji Dong was also completely relieved, for Ji Dong, the safety of others was still secondary, but the few people who walked out of Qindu Academy with him, he would never allow accidents to happen, and when he saw Long Xuan and An Xin and others again, he didn't wait for his master's consent at all this time, so he got together directly with a few people.