Looking at Ji Dong in front of him, the Great Elder was completely unable to come back to his senses for a while, at this moment, he really felt like he was dreaming, but he couldn't believe his eyes no matter what.

Not long ago, he personally brought Ji Dong to Tianxin Pool, and personally left Ji Dong in Tianxin Pool to cultivate, according to normal circumstances, if he didn't go to open the light curtain at the entrance of the cave, then Ji Dong would not have thought of it in his life!

However, at this moment, Ji Dong appeared in front of him like this, and he really had a feeling that he couldn't imagine or imagine.

"Why, it's only been less than a day, the Great Elder shouldn't be unrecognizable to the disciple, right?"

Seeing the Great Elder staring at him stunned, Ji Dong's face couldn't help but show a hint of a smile, and then he shook his head and said.

He could understand the other party's mood at the moment, after all, Tianxin Pool was the cultivation holy land of the Qing Ying Sect no matter how he said it, and he walked out of it without anyone's help, it would be strange if the other party was not shocked.

"You......... How did you do that?! ”

Hearing Ji Dong speak, the Great Elder took a deep breath and immediately said with surprise on his face.

He has always been extremely confident in the light curtain at the entrance of the Tianxin Pool, in fact, even if he doesn't have a key, it is impossible to enter and exit the Tianxin Pool.

But at this moment, Ji Dong really walked out of it, and the more he thought about it, the more confused he became, and the more he thought about it, the more frightened he became!

"Hehe, has the Great Elder forgotten who is standing behind me? If the person behind me doesn't even have this ability, how can he dare to make a deal with you, the Great Elder? ”

Hearing the Great Elder's slightly trembling voice, Ji Dong sneered again, his face full of indifference.

Naturally, he would not tell the other party the truth, but in fact, his fictitious Dan Array Division's backer was used to carry the blame at this time, and if there was any problem, he would just throw it directly to the unknown Dan Formation Division's backer.

"This ......... This can also be done?! ”

Hearing this, the Great Elder's face changed several times again, but the bottom of his heart became more and more shocked.

It was hard for him to imagine what level the Dan Array Master powerhouse behind Ji Dong had reached, and he could actually help Ji Dong solve the Dan Array Division's methods without showing up, and this kind of miraculous ability was completely beyond his cognition.

"Aren't you going to cultivate in Tianxin Pool? Why did it come out so soon......... Wait, your cultivation is ............"

Although his heart was shocked, since Ji Dong had a strong Dan Formation Division as a backer, it was not unacceptable to do some unbelievable things, but at this moment, he noticed that Ji Dong at this time seemed to have become a little different compared to when he saw it in the morning!

In the morning, although Ji Dong was also very strong in his eyes, he could still faintly feel Ji Dong's bottom line at that time, but at this moment, when he looked at Ji Dong carefully again, he found that he couldn't see through Ji Dong at all.

On the surface, Ji Dong seems to have become more ordinary at this time, if he walks in the crowd, such Ji Dong is almost no different from an ordinary person who doesn't know how to cultivate, but the more this is the case, the more he understands the meaning.

Speaking of which, the realm that Ji Dong showed at this time seemed to be the realm he had always wanted to pursue, but he couldn't touch! In front of Ji Dong, he suddenly felt as if he had become very small.

"Don't hide it from the Great Elder, Tianxin Pool is really good, and the disciple has indeed gained a lot from cultivating in it for a day." Hearing the Great Elder talk about his cultivation, Ji Dong pulled the corners of his mouth again, and then explained in a salty manner.

Once upon a time, the Great Elder was simply high in his eyes, but now, he really doesn't take the other party in his eyes anymore, if he wants, he only needs to move at will, and he can make the other party fall into a state of no return.

It's just that when he reaches his current realm, he really has no interest in making a move on the other side.

It was true that he could easily kill the other party, but it was meaningless at all, thinking that even his master Xun Wanshan would definitely not want to see such a scene.

In his opinion, killing the other party with one knife is better than letting the other party watch their master and apprentice surpass the other party in strength and status, and wait until Xun Wanshan advances to the Great Heaven Realm, or even the Creation Realm, he believes that the Great Elder may be more uncomfortable than death, and at that time, the grievances and grievances between the other party and Xun Wanshan will still be resolved by themselves.

In addition, now that the catastrophe is coming, the entire Qing Ying Sect must be completely united, and they must not do anything to kill each other, especially the Great Elder, his status is extraordinary, and the safety of the entire Qing Ying Sect is probably counting on him.

"Rewarding? This ............"

Hearing Ji Dong's answer, the Great Elder's body trembled suddenly, but he didn't dare to imagine what Ji Dong meant by what he meant by having gained a lot.

Ji Dong's strength is already terrifying, and if he gains a lot on such a basis, this is simply the rhythm of not giving others a way to live!

He could feel that if he fought with Ji Dong again at this time, let alone compete with Ji Dong, even if he insisted on it for more time in Ji Dong's hands, I am afraid it would be difficult to do it.

"Don't talk about this, while no one is here, I will first make up the pills I promised to the Great Elder before, so that we will not owe each other in the future."

Waving his hand, Ji Dong didn't want to talk too much about his strength, and in a moment's time, he took out a bunch of bottles and cans again, just making up for the reward he promised to the other party before.

Promised to others, of course, you have to do it, anyway, for him now, refining these elixirs is simply very easy, and the quality is also higher than the current ones, and when he returns to the Qin Du Party, he will collect another batch of refining materials, and then refine some more elixirs.

"This ........." Seeing that Ji Dong had taken out so many elixirs from his body again, the Great Elder suddenly opened his mouth wide, but he couldn't describe his mood at the moment.

Originally, he thought that Ji Dong didn't have more divine pills on his body, but at this time, he realized that after making trouble for a long time, Ji Dong had already prepared the divine pills to trade with him, but he just didn't take them all out directly.

"Okay, the Great Elder put away these pills, and in the next time, I hope the Great Elder can calm down for the time being, and talk to me about the beast tide this time, especially the barbarians mentioned by the Great Elder before, the disciple hopes to know more about it."

This is the main purpose of his coming back to find the other party, before he was not strong enough, but there was no way to force the other party to say more, but at this moment, his strength has reached a new height, and he can naturally use some means to let the other party tell more secrets.

Ji Dong was really curious about the barbarians mentioned by the Great Elder before, although the Great Elder didn't say much, but he could still hear that this beast tide was obviously inseparable from this so-called barbarian, and judging from the expression of the Great Elder when he mentioned the barbarians, this barbarian seemed to be really extraordinary.

"Great Elder, let's not talk secretly, I have brought you such important information this time, I think the Great Elder also knows how much it means, even if it is a courtesy, the Great Elder should also share some of the information you have with me, right?"

Staring at the Great Elder in front of him, Ji Dong did not beat around the bush, and directly expressed his purpose.

The catastrophe was in front of him, but until this moment he didn't know who the enemy he was facing was, and he didn't know what the other party's purpose was.

He believed that the Great Elder, as the spokesperson of the true high-level of the Qing Netherworld Sect, must know a lot of things, and this time, he would pry open the other party's mouth no matter what, and find out really useful information.

"Little guy, the affairs of the barbarians are not something you can investigate, although you have made a great contribution to the establishment this time, but some things are matters of principle, I hope you can understand."

Hearing that Ji Dong had once again inquired about the barbarian clan with him, the Great Elder's expression was slightly correct, but he didn't care about the change in strength that shocked Ji Dong, and hurriedly said solemnly.

The matter of the barbarian race is indeed not suitable to talk about too much, after all, this race has disappeared from the Yanhuang Great World for many years, and few people in the Yanhuang Great World still remember them today.

According to the ideas of the major sects, it is best for everyone to completely forget about the barbarians, so that the original history will be sealed forever and never opened.

"A matter of principle? Ha, I'm afraid what the Great Elder said is hard to believe, right? Hearing the Great Elder's words, Ji Dong immediately laughed aloud, and then continued, "The Great Elder doesn't have to talk to me, so let's do it, the Great Elder will tell me everything you know, and in return, I can promise you a hundred Yishou Pills, and in addition, if the Great Elder can reveal more useful information, then even if it is a treasure divine pill that surpasses the Yishou Pill, I can also consider preparing a copy for the Great Elder." ”

He could see that the Great Elder obviously really had concerns, but he was not afraid that the other party would have concerns, because he believed that even if the other party had more concerns, he could use his own means to help the other party dispel their concerns.

"What? 100 Yishou pills? This......... Are you telling the truth?!! ”

When Ji Dong's words fell, the Great Elder, who was originally righteous and strict, suddenly showed an unbelievable look on his face, and his eyes were full of excitement, and at this time, he no longer asked any questions of principle.

One hundred Yishou Pills, that means he can live for at least a hundred more years, to be honest, for such a number, he really has no immunity.

That's a hundred years of life, if he can live a hundred more years, God knows how many impossibilities he can create, after all, his talent is not bad, what is lacking is the accumulation and precipitation of time.

"Does the Great Elder think I'm going to lie to you? If I want to lie to you, then I won't give you those pills. ”

Seeing that the Great Elder was tempted, Ji Dong couldn't help but sneer, and then shook his head and said.

He knew that it was impossible for the other party to withstand his sugar-coated shells, and in the face of absolute interests, the so-called principles were not so easy to stand.

"Okay, if you can get a hundred Yishou Pills, then I'll tell you about the barbarians!"

His eyes moved, and the Great Elder thought for a moment, and then his tone was firm and authentic. There is no way, the price offered by Ji Dong is too tempting, he believes, let alone him, even if those old antiques from the Qingying Sect come, I am afraid that they will definitely not be able to withstand such tempting conditions.

"Happy, the Great Elder deserves to be the Great Elder, and he is indeed a person who does great things." Hearing that the Great Elder agreed, the corners of Ji Dong's mouth twitched slightly, and as he spoke, he raised his hand and directly took out a jade bottle.

"There are still more than forty Yishou Pills in this, the Great Elder can take them first, as for the remaining fifty or so, I will definitely give them in full, of course, if the Great Elder can't believe me, then I can go to prepare Yishou Dan now, but I'm afraid it will be delayed for a while, and whether our transaction will still be counted at that time is not something I can determine."

The Yishou Pill on his body has already run out, but as long as he is given some time to collect refining materials, then refining dozens of Yishou Pills will be easy and enjoyable.

Today, his spiritual power has reached an indescribable terrifying realm, and an elixir like Yishou Dan can be easily obtained if he wants to.

"This ......... Forty or so is more than forty, I believe you are! Hearing Ji Dong's words, the Great Elder hesitated slightly, but still agreed.

Ji Dong's personality, he is still somewhat trustworthy, and besides, even if Ji Dong does not send the follow-up Yishou Pill, at least the forty or so Yishou Pills in front of him are definitely not fake.

Counting the dozens of pieces he got before, he already has hundreds of Yishou Pills on his body at this time!

"Please also ask the Great Elder to make it clear, and listen to me in the next place!!"

The conditions were negotiated, but Ji Dong didn't say much, and when he raised his hand, he threw the jade bottle in his hand to the other party, and then his face was straight, quietly waiting for the other party's story.

"A long time ago, the Yanhuang Great World was not the current situation, at that time, the whole world was full of sects, and there were countless families, but there were no thirty-six major sects, and among them, there was a sect called the Holy Barbarian Sect that was extremely strong, and it controlled hundreds of powerful sects and families in its hands, and the limelight was unparalleled for a while, and it was precisely because of this that the ambition of the Holy Barbarian Sect would become bigger and bigger, it is said that the Holy Barbarian Sect at that time wanted to control all the sects and families in the entire Yanhuang Great World in their own hands, Created an unprecedented super dynasty, but in the end, it was resisted by countless sects and families, and in the end, the Holy Barbarian Sect dug its own grave and was wiped out by the combined power of countless sects and families, and disappeared in the Yanhuang world. ”

Seeing Ji Dong waiting there quietly, the Great Elder took a deep breath and told the information he had one by one.

"Wait, Holy Barbarian Sect? Barbarians? Is there any connection between the two? ”

Hearing the Great Elder's words, Ji Dong's eyebrows raised slightly, and he subconsciously interjected.

The Holy Barbarian Sect, the Barbarian Clan, there is a barbarian character in both of them, and it is easy for people to associate them together, coupled with the Great Elder's narration at the moment, Ji Dong has basically understood where this so-called barbarian came from.

"It seems that you have guessed that the so-called barbarians are actually those people from the Holy Barbarian Sect, in the original war, it is said that the alliance of the major sects and families suffered heavy casualties, but even so, they failed to destroy the Holy Barbarian Sect in the end, but let the strong men of the Holy Barbarian Sect flee with the surviving disciples of the Holy Barbarian Sect, and those strong men of the Holy Barbarian Sect said before they left that one day, they will definitely come back and regain control of this world."

Anyway, he had already decided to trade with Ji Dong, but the Great Elder was no longer secretive at this time, as long as it was the situation he knew, it was almost a confession, which could be regarded as letting Ji Dong see his sincerity.

For Ji Dong, he didn't dare to have any thoughts that he shouldn't have at all, aside from anything else, Ji Dong's strength at the moment alone was probably beyond his reach, plus Ji Dong's spending, he knew that his best choice was to maintain Ji Dong well, not to make Ji Dong dissatisfied.

"In this way, the high-level leaders of the major sects have actually determined that the people who are driving the beast tide behind this time are the original people of the Holy Barbarian Sect?"

Hearing the Great Elder's words, Ji Dong's eyes narrowed slightly, and after a long silence, he asked calmly.

What the original Yanhuang Great World was like, I'm afraid that people who haven't really experienced it can't know too clearly, even if it's a great elder, it's bound to be just hearsay.

However, on the whole, the situation mentioned by the Great Elder is indeed quite reasonable, but if you think about it carefully, it seems that there are many problems.

"The Sect Master did say so before, and if you want to come with the identity and strength of the Sect Master, it shouldn't be untargeted."

Hearing Ji Dong's question again, the Great Elder also hesitated slightly, but he directly put the responsibility on the Sect Master of the Green Underworld Sect, in line with his meaning, he was just Duan Da's guess about the Sect Master of the Blue Immortal Sect, as for whether it was true or not, he couldn't determine at all.

"The sect master has a noble status, and he really won't talk nonsense, it seems that this matter should be true." Hearing this, Ji Dong couldn't help but nodded, and he agreed with such a statement.

Although he had never seen the sect master of the Qing Ming Sect, he believed that such a high-ranking person, even if he was now, he was probably not an opponent at all, after all, from what he had learned, the sect masters of the major sects were the strongest people in the entire Yanhuang Great World now, as for how strong it was, it was difficult for ordinary people to imagine at all.

"By the way, how did the name barbarian come about? Isn't this person from the Holy Barbarian Sect a Terran superpower like us? ”

After pondering for a moment, Ji Dong's eyebrows suddenly raised, and then he continued to ask the doubts in his heart.

It's not that he hasn't seen those black-clothed people, and frankly speaking, he doesn't feel that those black-clothed people are any different from them, but he doesn't know why the major sects call those people barbarians.

"It's true that they are human superpowers, but in fact, they are different from us in terms of life and cultivation habits, as well as some other aspects, and the name barbarian is actually passed on by themselves, as for why they call themselves barbarians, this is probably impossible to investigate."

The Holy Barbarian Sect has been too long since now, and after the Holy Barbarian Sect disappeared, the major sects seemed to deliberately not want to mention this super power, but they didn't even leave the classics of that period of history at that time, so many things at the beginning can only be guessed wildly now.

"Also, if this beast tide is really from the hands of the barbarians, then what is the matter with the Dan Array Master powerhouse among them? Right now, it is certain that there must be a strong Dan Formation Division within them, and the level is quite high, could it be that there is also a Super Dan Formation Division among the barbarians? ”

Others don't know, but he can be completely sure that there must be a powerful Dan Array Master behind the beast tide, which should at least be the supreme existence of the Wang Dan Array Division, and the Dan Array Masters are all subordinate to the Dan Array Sect, he doesn't know if there are also Dan Array Masters of this level among this so-called barbarians.

"There will be no Dan Array Master among the barbarians, it is said that the barbarians are all talented, and they are almost born with strength far beyond ordinary people, and it is precisely because of such unique conditions that the barbarians have almost never awakened the Dan Array Master, as for where the Dan Array Division is strong among the barbarians now, this is also a question that all major sects want to figure out."

Regarding the fact that there are super Dan Array Master powerhouses among the barbarians this time, the major sects seem to have secretly communicated with the Dan Array Sect, but unfortunately, the Dan Array Sect did not respond positively at all, so at present, there are actually many sects that believe that this beast tide attack is very likely to be inseparable from the Dan Array Sect.

"How could such a thing happen? It just so happened that at this time, the Dan Array Sect chose to close the palace again, which is really a bit intriguing!! ”

After listening to the Great Elder's story, Ji Dong's eyes couldn't help but narrow, and then he licked his lips and said.

In his opinion, since the Dan Array Sect chose to close the palace to thank guests, this was an abnormal behavior, so no matter how much the Dan Array Master among the barbarians had a connection with the Dan Array Sect, there must be a connection in short.

"Okay, I have a little understanding of the barbarian affairs, the Great Elder still tell me about the plans of our high-level leaders, at the moment, the barbarians have only dispatched some fierce beasts, and they have already tossed the Yanhuang Great World enough, if those barbarians also show up, the thirty-six major sects can withstand it?"

He could tell that the Great Elder didn't know much about the barbarians, so no matter how much he asked, the other party wouldn't be able to tell why.

Right now, he was actually more concerned about how the top leaders of the Blue Netherworld Sect viewed this catastrophe, which was related to what kind of way he would act next.

"Hehe, it seems that you don't know too much about the power of the thirty-six major sects of the Yanhuang Great World, maybe you have seen some seemingly unfavorable situations in the Antarctic Sect before, but I can tell you very responsibly, if the barbarians want to muddy the waters of the Yanhuang Great World with just a few beast tides, then they are really too naïve."

Hearing Ji Dong's question this time, the Great Elder was slightly stunned, and then even showed a very strange smile, and said with a nonchalant face.

"Ha, it seems that I'm a little worried!"

Seeing the expression of the Great Elder, Ji Dong was also stunned for a moment, and at this moment, he realized that until this moment, the major sects had not shown too much urgency, which undoubtedly explained a lot of problems.

The conversation with the Great Elder didn't last long, because Ji Dong could see that the Great Elder didn't know much about the Barbarians and the Holy Barbarian Sect, and right now, he had mastered the general situation of the Barbarian Clan and the Holy Barbarian Sect, so he was satisfied.

Whether it is a barbarian or a holy barbarian sect, in the final analysis, it is to occupy the Yanhuang Great World and replace the current thirty-six major sects, but now that I think about it, if the thirty-six major sects can be defeated by the barbarians so easily, then the original Holy Barbarian Sect will not be forced to run away.

If you want to talk about variables, the biggest variable of the barbarians at the moment is the power of the Dan Array Master, and the Dan Array Sect has made it clear that it wants to stay out of the matter, which is not very good news for the thirty-six major sects.

But people are not as good as heaven, it is estimated that those strong people of the barbarian clan would never have dreamed that although the thirty-six major sects did not have the support of the Dan Array Sect, there was such a perverted existence as him, it is no exaggeration to say that when he exposed the news that the barbarians secretly controlled the disciples of the major sects, the barbarians' actions this time were actually half of the failure............

Bidding farewell to the Great Elder, Ji Dong returned directly to Lingfeng, the headquarters of the Qindu Party, and then stood down on the cliff at the top of Lingfeng, quietly observing the suspended divine mountain in the depths of the Qingyin Sect.

The conversation with the Great Elder gave him a new understanding of the power of the Green Nether Sect, at least he had understood that the power of the Green Netherworld Sect was definitely more than it seemed on the surface.

"I really don't know how many masters are hidden on this suspended god mountain, the Qing Ying Sect has existed for so many years, and the masters will inevitably come one after another, aside from those Heavenly Realm powerhouses, just beyond the Heavenly Realm level of existence, I'm afraid there will be a lot, right?"

Before he advanced to the King-Rank Dan Formation Division, he could only simply see the Levitating Divine Mountain floating in mid-air, but he couldn't feel any power in it at all, but at this moment, when he looked at the Suspended Divine Mountain again, he faintly felt that the power on this Divine Mountain was really terrifying.

Thinking about it, the Qing Ying Sect has many geniuses, and there will never be fewer strong people who can cultivate to the Heavenly Rank Realm, and the strong people of the Heavenly Rank Realm will have a lifespan of at least three or five hundred years, and if there are some special circumstances, it is not a problem to live for six or seven hundred years.

And once a Heavenly Realm powerhouse breaks through the realm and enters the level of the Creation Realm, then he can enjoy a lifespan of thousands of years, that is to say, even if he is a powerhouse who broke through to the Creation Realm thousands of years ago, he should still be alive on the Suspended Divine Mountain!

After so many years, I really don't know how many Creation Realm powerhouses have accumulated on the Suspended Divine Mountain of the Qingyin Sect, and as for the Heavenly Rank Realm powerhouses, it is estimated that there should be no less, and nine times out of ten, they must be at the level of the Great Heaven Realm.

In the past, because of his weak strength, he didn't dare to think too much about the problems on the Suspended Divine Mountain, but now that his strength has greatly improved, even if he encounters the supreme figure of the Creation Realm, there is nothing to fear, so of course he will think more.

"The strength of the Qing Ying Sect is still like this, as the strength of the Antarctic Sect is much stronger than the Qing Ying Sect, the number of super strong people will inevitably be more, but the previous beast tide has already caused so much damage, and those strong people of the South Pole Sect are still indifferent, this is really calm!"

He really couldn't understand the thoughts of the super strong people of the major sects, and with his thoughts, now that the beast tide is raging, the super strong people of the major sects should appear one after another, blocking the beast tide directly in the depths of the Southern Wilderness, so as to reduce the losses of some major sects.

But the reality is that right now, the beast tide is about to spread to the entire Southern Regions, but the super powerhouses of the major sects still don't move, as if those who are swallowed by the beast tide all deserve it.

"It seems that the major sects may have their own plans, in this case, I don't need to be the first bird at all, just rein in the edge and respond to all changes without change!"

Although he has advanced to the Heavenly Rank Realm, his strength is completely comparable to the old antiques of the Creation Realm, but until the last resort, it is better for him to keep a low profile.

At present, the major sects are not moving, and even the barbarians are just urging the beast tide, and secretly sending some spies to the major sects, but the main force has not shown up at all, which shows that both sides may have a lot of scruples, and when everyone really stands together openly, I think that is when the situation is the most serious!

"It seems that it's time to open the furnace for alchemy again, before the catastrophe completely breaks out, I must make the people around me as strong as possible, and the elixir is definitely the fastest effect."

For him, everything else is actually floating clouds, he doesn't care what the major sects and barbarians think, as long as his relatives and friends around him can survive safely, if anyone dares to hurt the people around him, then whether it is the major sects or barbarians, they will inevitably bear his endless anger.

"Right now, we still have to collect a batch of refining materials first, it seems that this time we must mobilize all the power in our hands, the Son of Heaven Party, the Wentian Party and the Seven Star Party, those guys should all hope to get the elixir, I will give them a chance this time, let them get what they want!"

At this moment, there were more and more pills he could refine, and correspondingly, the more refining materials he needed, if he only relied on the people of the Qin Capital Party to collect them, it would be impossible to meet his needs.

Therefore, this time, he wants to mobilize all the people who can be mobilized, and if it is a big deal, he will exchange all kinds of elixirs with them, and he believes that those people will definitely be willing to do this with him.

"Brush !!"

Thinking of this, he no longer hesitated, and in a flash, he began to wander around the entire Qingyin Sect, first the Son of Heaven Party and the Wentian Party, and then the Seven Star Party, the leaders of these three major parties were already his people, and of course the three of them did not dare to disobey his instructions in the slightest.

What's more, he didn't let these people hand in the refining materials for nothing, speaking of which, the pills he gave back to them at that time were probably impossible to compare with no amount of refining materials.

With these three major parties collecting refining materials for him, plus the Qin Du Party's own people, he didn't need to find people from other parties at all, and after arranging everything, he went directly back to his secret room and instructed Blood Mingyue to cultivate.

Blood Mingyue's cultivation is the easiest, firstly, Ji Dong will invest all kinds of resources on the other party regardless of the cost, and secondly, through double cultivation, the benefits that Blood Mingyue can get are also incomparable to others, if you really want to calculate it, Blood Mingyue's Five Elements Super Ability talent is given to her by Ji Dong through double cultivation.

During this period, the Great Elder naturally reported the matter of the barbarian spies to the high-level of the Qingying Sect, as for the reaction of the high-level members of the Qingying Sect, and how to find out all the spies in the Qingying Sect and arrest them, these are not what Ji Dong needs to care about.

He believed that with the methods of those super strong people of the Blue Netherworld Sect, as long as he knew that there was a problem within the Blue Netherworld Sect, then he would be able to find out the problem after all.