Yang Lan: "Hello Gu Cancan." ”

Gu Cancan: "Hello, Sister Yang Lan." ”

Yang Lan smiled: "Then I'll go straight to the topic, I said just now, I interviewed a little girl before, and she said that life is a toss." Gu Cancan, you quickly changed from a singer to a director, looking back on your life in the first two years, you were always busy, and even gave up the life of ordinary girls going to and from school step by step, I feel that you have made yourself so hard, is it to prove anything? ”

The camera was given to Gu Cancan, this is a close-up shot, Gu Cancan's face occupies the entire screen, and every part of her facial features is very beautiful when taken out separately, and the combination on the small melon seed face is even more beautiful and thrilling.

Gu Cancan smiled and said: "Actually, Sister Yang Lan, you just missed a part, I know that you are probably for my face, but there is nothing that can't be said, after my family had an accident at that time, in order to reduce the burden on the family, I actually started as an anchor in YY." ”

The anchor is also in the entertainment circle, but generally speaking, no matter what the circle, there is actually a chain of contempt.

For example, in the music industry, those who play classical look down on jazz, those who play jazz look down on those who play rock, and rock and roll look down on pop songs, and finally everyone looks down on rap.

For example, in the entertainment industry, those who act in dramas look down on those who act in movies, those who act in movies look down on those who act in TV series, and those who act in TV series look down on those who mix variety shows, but everyone looks down on those who are anchors.

In Gu Cancan's original time and space, there are many big anchors who claim to have an annual income of tens of millions or even hundreds of millions, and they all sharpen their heads and want to drill into the film and television song circle, but there are very few who can really get in, and they are really recognized by the masses, that is, Chen Yifa, she can be regarded as entering the music industry, but she has ruined her future by dying. Even Feng Timo, who is as famous as her, wants to enter the film and television industry, but no one takes her to play.

The reason is very simple, it seems that these big anchors have a lot of fans, but for real audiences, they are not attractive and cannot support the box office.

Gu Cancan was an anchor in YY back then, and in the eyes of a considerable number of people, this is black history.

"Mmmm, Cancan was still a well-known anchor in YY back then, I remember when you played the pipa in YY, it was very popular on the Internet, right?"

"Yes, everyone actually likes art, for traditional Chinese art. At that time, I had this specialty, and I thought it was just a gimmick, so I chose this way of anchoring. At that time, for my age, being an anchor on the Internet was a relatively easy way to make money. ”

Yang Lan listened with interest to Gu Cancan's reminiscences of the past, and then answered: "Is there no age limit for being an anchor?" ”

Gu Cancan froze for a moment, blinked his eyes, an embarrassed but polite smile appeared on his face, and explained a few words: "Actually, there is." Live streaming is also a new thing, and the state has less supervision in this regard, and the review of anchors is not strict, so my age has not become a factor hindering me. ”

I secretly complained a few words in my heart, isn't it a high-end interview, don't learn from those entertainment records who always ask questions and gossip.

Sure enough, Yang Lan has a background, she also skipped this question, and talked about director Gu Cancan: "We know that being a director requires skills, but your success seems to have subverted this concept, Cancan, do you think that being a director requires the systematic training of the academy?" ”

"Before I was admitted to the Chinese opera, I invited several teachers to teach me personally, and I think systematic learning is very important. However, being a director does not necessarily have to go through special systematic training, and there are talented people. ”

"When did you come up with the idea to make a movie?"

"It's after Supergirl won the championship. My first movie was "Nightclub", in fact, it was also a sudden inspiration, I imagined the plot and pictures in my head, it felt very interesting, and then at that time, I started from being an anchor to the supergirl talent show and then toured, singing for a long time, and I was very tired of it, so I decided to change my career, not to be a singer, and to shoot the story in my head by myself. ”

"You're very mobile."

Gu Cancan smiled: "Actually, the main reason is that our family's economic difficulties were solved at that time, and there was no pressure on our body, just like a spring pressed for a long time, and suddenly there was no pressure, and I wanted to be willful." ”

"Thanks to your waywardness." Yang Lan said with a smile: "It will provide us with so many wonderful movies." ”

Gu Cancan waved his hand to show that he didn't dare to be.

Yang Lan adjusted her sitting posture, her legs skimmed to the other side, her posture was very elegant, Gu Cancan couldn't help but learn a little, and changed from stilted legs to this kind of lady sitting.

"I know that many film companies have asked you to play a role, but you have refused, why didn't you agree? It seems that the price they give is quite high! ”

"Hehe, there is such a thing. The main thing is that I'm not very good for being an actor. I don't like makeup, and I'm picky about the role, I still have a problem, I think I played a role in place, but the person who played the play didn't cooperate well, or I felt that the plot was unreasonable, I was very difficult to accept, and if the role was set up unreasonably, I also felt uncomfortable, let's put it this way, I have too many stinky problems, so don't make trouble for others, when I am willing to play a role, I will choose one from my own play, other people's plays, I will not go to harm. ”

Yang Lan chuckled and said, "So you didn't become an actor, but now you are a director!" ”

"Well, there is this benefit of being a director myself, and no one dares to say anything about me."

"Haha."

"Sister Yang Lan, you just said that my appearance is very suitable for being an actor, in fact, I myself think I look pretty good."

Gu Cancan's sudden narcissism caused Yang Lan and the audience to laugh.

"Don't laugh, isn't that true? And I think I'm pretty good at acting. ”

The laughter was even louder, and there were still people in the audience who shouted "Yes." ”

"But as I said just now, there are too many restrictions on taking on other people's scenes, so you should shoot your own in the future."

Yang Lan smiled: "Actually, we are still looking forward to having you play a role." ”

"The soon-to-be-released "July and Ansheng" was directed and acted by me, and I am personally quite satisfied, you can go and see it." Gu Cancan took the opportunity to Amway his movie again.

Yang Lan said: "Cancan, what do you think is the most important thing in making movies? ”

"Aesthetics, it must be aesthetics, people with good aesthetics can't make bad movies."

"It feels like you're still boasting about yourself......"

"Haha, no, I mean really. You see that these directors who are famous in China are very beautiful in the composition of their works, this is aesthetics. ”

"For example?"

"For example, director Zhang Yimou, beauty is the most direct in his works, and the picture is picturesque. For example, director Feng Xiaogang, the composition of his movie picture is very beautiful, and when you watch his movies, the angle of light and shadow is very comfortable. These are the embodiment of aesthetics. ”

Yang Lan didn't comment well, so she didn't continue the topic anymore, and said: "Let's go back to the movie itself, we can see from the trailer just now that your acting skills are still very good, and there are frequent good sentences in it, such as the most beautiful encounter in the world, which is to meet another self; For example, there are many paths that girls can walk, and the toss point may not be unhappy, but it will be very hard. Do you have high requirements for your lines? ”

Gu Cancan thought for a while and said, "Well, in fact, Sister Yang Lan, the first sentence you said is the words of the original author, Baby Anne, and the latter sentence is original." I have quite high requirements for lines, and I have requirements for this, but I don't deliberately say that there must be golden sentences or anything like that, and I hate water words. ”

"Water words?"

"It's some unrelated subject descriptions, such as 'looking up at the starry sky at a 45-degree angle' and the like, my dad said when he taught me to write essays since I was a child, and the essay must have something to say!"

"Ahem, you call me Sister Sheng, let's not continue this topic."

"Ah, thank you, Sister Yang Lan, pinch off this paragraph. Alas, you know that if you say too much, you will lose! Gu Cancan looked annoyed.

"Haha, Cancan, why did you choose to shoot a commercial film? According to our understanding, you write your own lyrics and compose music, there are many excellent songs that are popular, and the lyrics are brilliant, I feel that you are a literary girl, and you should take the route of literary films! ”

"Sister Yang Lan, you may not know that even if our Chinese literary films can be released, very few can recover their costs. The movies I make are all invested by myself, and I want to make sure that my money is not spent in vain! Secondly, I don't particularly like literary films. What our generation accepts is the success or failure of the box office, no matter how profound your work is, if it can't be sold for money, then I can't accept it! ”

"But isn't cinema supposed to expose reality? I once interviewed Wang Xiaoshuai, and he said that the most important thing in making movies is sensitivity. No matter what happens on the outside, the heart must be fragile and soft. There must be a strong sense of anxiety! ”

Yang Lan didn't seem to agree with Gu Cancan's point of view.

This is also a common problem of Yang Lan's generation, who likes to talk about feelings and shoot events that expose the bottom of society.

Gu Cancan said disapprovingly: "How to say it, in my opinion, directors, especially the current Chinese film directors, must be down-to-earth, the so-called down-to-earth, that is, to understand the audience's thoughts." Since your movie has been sold in theaters for money, it must conform to the public's aesthetics! You can't just satisfy your senses. ”

Gu Cancan's answer was very rational.

"But aesthetics is not necessarily fashionable is beauty, this is all for a while, and in the end, the aesthetics that can really stay will always be pure, very rational, and elegant, not just temporary high-tech or things like killing Matt."

Yang Lan still insists on her own point of view.

Gu Cancan was silent for a few seconds, and then said with a smile: "Sister Yang Lan, I agree with your point of view, but I also reserve my opinion. In my personal opinion, I think the first thing a director should consider when making a movie is the cost, if you can't even make back the money you invested, then you are a failed director! ”

"Then you mean to say that the works of Xiao Shuai and their generation are all failures?"

Ay? Yang Lan is digging a pit for herself?

Gu Cancan hurriedly denied Sanlian: "No, I didn't mean that, Sister Yang Lan don't say that!" You're confusing a concept, a failed director and a failed work, which are two different concepts. ”

Yang Lan must be a very thoughtful host, otherwise she would not have chosen to leave CCTV to study in the United States when she was the most popular.

However, Gu Cancan said in a bad way that she is the most successful and youngest director among young people in China, and she is also quite proud and even stubborn.

She and Yang Lan disagreed, and Gu Cancan didn't want to back down and say something unreasonable.

Yang Lan obviously didn't expect that Gu Cancan's views were far from her, so she continued: "Cancan, according to what you said, in the Chinese film market, in fact, many movies are not profitable or even lose money. Or is it that the entire sixth generation of directors is a failure in your opinion? ”

Gu Cancan hurriedly said: "Sister Yang Lan, I don't mean that, their works must not be said to be failures." It's just that from the perspective of investors, from an economic point of view, it does not meet expectations! ”

"But their films have won numerous awards!"

Yang Lan is still holding on to the views of her generation.

Gu Cancan pursed his lips, pondered for a few seconds, and said slowly: "Sister Yang Lan, I admit what you said, yes, they have won numerous awards!" ”

After a pause, Gu Cancan seemed to hesitate for two seconds before continuing.

But in recent years, especially with the opening of the film market, it seems that the sixth generation of directors in your mouth has become less pure? Although the master is still alive, he will never be able to make "Alive" again! ”

Yang Lan's expression was serious and even a little resentful: "That's because of marketization, so they have to become nondescript!" ”

Gu Cancan smiled: "Yes, Sister Yang Lan, you see, on the one hand, I want to maintain the artistry of the movie, and on the other hand, I want to point to him to make money, how many literary films can really make money?" How can there be so many masters? ”

Yang Lan said disapprovingly: "But Hollywood's art films are still very marketable!" ”

She wanted to argue with Gu Cancan about some points again, as if she wanted to prove something.

Gu Cancan followed her words and added: "For example, "The Shawshank Redemption", such as "Forrest Gump"? ”

Yang Lan slapped his palms lightly and said, "Yes! That's what I mean! ”

Gu Cancan explained: "Sister Yang Lan, abroad, especially in Europe and the United States, there are indeed many literary films that have a good box office, but that is a product rooted in the North American theater system. There are some theaters that specialize in showing art films, but we don't have them! ”

"You mean our cinema system is unreasonable?"

Of course, Gu Cancan would not admit that she meant this, and hurriedly said: "Actually, it is difficult to evaluate whether our theater system is reasonable or unreasonable now. In my opinion, the film system of every country is slowly moving from irrationality to rationality. At this stage, it is the world of commercial films, your film can't sell money, and for investors, you are a loser! This is a fact that we cannot change! ”

In fact, there is something Gu Cancan wanted to say but didn't say it, if he said it, it would be a bit hurtful: movies are not self-congratulatory playthings, and the film is made to be appreciated! Those movies that the public feels that they don't know what to do after watching them shouldn't be made.

Yang Lan shook her head gently, but Gu Cancan didn't invite her to come to this show to debate with herself, Yang Lan simply asked, "Okay, Cancan, then do you have any ideas for shooting a pure art film?" ”

"Absolutely." Gu Cancan said with a smile: "If nothing else, my next work should also be classified as an art film." ”

"Oh? Have you already made a shooting plan? Yang Lan was a little surprised.

"Well, after the Spring Festival, I will shoot a small-budget art film." Gu Cancan deliberately mentioned the movie she planned to make, which can be regarded as early publicity.

Yang Lan was very interested and said, "Can you reveal some news in advance?" ”

"Well, the script has been submitted for review, and the name is "Buried Alive"."

"Sounds a little infiltrating, is it a horror movie?"

"No, no, you'll understand when Sister Yang Lan is released."

Yang Lan smiled and said, "Okay, then I'm looking forward to it." Cancan, what are your plans for next year? ”

"Well, I expect to make two movies in the first half of the year, a small-budget film and a science fiction film!"

"Sci-fi?"

"yes, sci-fi."

"Is it a science fiction film with pure Chinese characteristics?"

"Yes, the story takes place in our Chinese science fiction film, and the script is being discussed and perfected internally in our bright era."

"Really? Chinese science fiction movies can be said to have been disconnected, and there have been no impressive science fiction movies for many years. It can even be said that even if it is a well-known director, no one has challenged the science fiction theme. Bright, can you give us an idea? ”

Gu Cancan said with a smile: "Actually, there are some, as far as I know, Mr. Zhou Xingchi filmed "Yangtze River No. 7" this year, and it will be released in the first half of next year." ”

"Oh, well, I don't pay much attention to the news of the movie." Yang Lan resolved the embarrassed smile and asked Gu Cancan: "Gu Cancan, is the sci-fi film you want to make an original story or an existing IP?" ”

"It's not original, it's based on a science fiction story, and as for other information, it's not convenient for me to reveal more now. Many things have not yet been decided, at least after the script is reviewed, the bright times will release the news. ”

"Okay." Yang Lan nodded with some disappointment, and then said, "Gu Cancan, do you yearn for Hollywood?" ”

"Of course, any director must have a yearning for Hollywood! But for a while, I won't think about filming overseas. Gu Cancan didn't hide his thoughts.

During this face-to-face interview, Yang Lan felt satisfied.

Through this interview, Gu Cancan revealed several pieces of information that were enough to shock the entertainment industry.

Make a demo to promote, the ratings of this interview should not be low, Yang Lan felt in a good mood, and the unhappiness of disagreeing with Gu Cancan's opinion just now disappeared.

She remembered the other questions she planned to ask, and then said to Gu Cancan: "There is another question, Gu Cancan, I heard that your latest movie, well, it seems to be called Thirty-three Days of Broken Love, right?" ”

Gu Cancan nodded.

"Yes, thirty-three days of broken love, I heard that the filming cycle of your movie is only 23 days in total, and it has not been a month from the start of filming to the completion! Is this shooting period too short? ”

Gu Cancan thought that this interview was over, and they were about to get up and leave the studio, but they didn't expect Yang Lan to suddenly say a word.

She sat back down, touched her smooth chin with her right hand, thought for a while and said, "In fact, there is no way to be lazy and streamlined in the industrial process of movies. The filming of this film went smoothly, and there were very few actors, and although the shooting time was short, it took a long time to prepare. ”

"Really?" Yang Lan leaned forward slightly, folded her hands together, and asked with interest.

"Yes." Gu Cancan nodded in affirmation: "I have been polishing the script since June this year, and the staff has set it early, and the notice in advance is good, the shooting requirements have been issued early, and the venue arrangements have been communicated in advance." To be honest, my plan is to finish filming within a month, and the schedule of the main actors is signed for one month. And the post-production and filming of this film started at the same time. To a large extent, I made this film according to the industrial process on the Hollywood side, and the shooting went smoothly. ”

"You're emphasizing industrial processes."

Gu Cancan nodded: "Yes, I like the implementation of industrial processes in Hollywood, which is very scientific." ”

Yang Lan asked: "So, do you think that domestic film shooting is still in a state of chaos?" ”

"No, Sister Yang Lan," Gu Cancan was a little helpless, explaining to laymen that it was troublesome.

"Film and television industrialization is a trend, if the film shooting does not follow the process, then there must be a problem with the image presented! Many actors now sign a movie for more than a month, if the filming can't be completed on time, and the actors are gone, what will we shoot? Don't feel that the machine is rigid when you talk about the industrial process, in fact, I can guarantee that the quality of the works shot according to the industrial process is not bad, and the absolute working hours of our crew are more than the vast majority of domestic films. ”

"Hehe, then we'll wait and see the brilliant movie."

"Hehe, thank you, Sister Yang Lan."

"Okay, thank you Cancan for coming to shoot this show."

The interview finally ended, Gu Cancan felt that her back was wet, and Yang Lan threw a small pit from time to time, which made her concentrate on thinking about it.

The interview was so tiring, Gu Cancan thought resentfully in his heart, it would be better to accept the invitation of variety shows to promote the movie in the future.

……

Yang Lan's interview will be broadcast the day after tomorrow, and the latest episode can also play some publicity role for Gu Cancan's movie "July and Ansheng", for which Gu Cancan is very grateful to Yang Lan, and Su Luo came forward to make an appointment for a meal.

In the entertainment industry, the relationship is formed little by little.

Gu Cancan accepted an interview with Yang Lan, and Wan Qian and Wen Zhang went to "Happy Camp".

Hunan Tai and Gu Cancan had some old grievances, Gu Cancan did not participate, and the other party invited Wan Qian and Wen Zhang, which can be regarded as handing out an olive branch.

It's just that the participation process made Wan Qian and Wen Zhang quite speechless.

The first phase of the Happy Camp will invite several groups of guests, Wan Qian and Wen Zhang participated in this issue, and a star from the stick country arrived, but the happy family completely revolved around the stick, and Wan Qian, Wen Zhang, and another group of rock groups in the same period completely became a foil.

The happy base camp has always attached great importance to the people of the country, and the monks from outside will chant the scriptures.

Gu Cancan was glad that she didn't participate, otherwise with her violent temper, she was afraid that she would be angry with the Chinese people on the spot.

Fortunately, Wan Qian is in a calm state of mind, and Wen Zhang's words are slight now, how to say that going to the happy base camp can also play a role in promoting the movie.

Several people finished their own shows, and accepted some interviews one after another, constantly building momentum for the release of the movie, and finally, "July and Ansheng" was released as scheduled.

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