"Ahem, ahem!" Zeng Shen looked embarrassed and said, "I also listened to what Mr. and senior said. ”

"You're humble! I'm optimistic about you! Fang Jishi looked at Zeng Shen and nodded with satisfaction.

"Uncle Fang! You compliment me and embarrass me! Ahem, ahem! Zeng Shen looked embarrassed.

"Since you have treated me as an uncle, and have often visited me, and asked me these things, then I will tell you everything I know! I believe you: it's not a show, a superficial situation, you really come to ask me. In fact! You know what to expect, and you just want to confirm whether your understanding is correct, whether your husband's understanding is correct? Isn't it? ”

Under Fang Jishi's questioning, Zeng Shen looked at him and smiled "cough cough cough".

"I heard the conversation between your husband and the madman of Chu State! ……”

Zeng Shen interrupted: "Uncle Fang heard it? I heard from my husband that he had a second conversation with the madman, and no one else was present, just the two of them. The madman is very conceited, looking down on Zilu, Zigong, and Yan Hui, and only paying attention to Mr. ”

"Hehehe!" Fang Jishi smiled: "I'm on the scene, I can't tell you the reason for the time being, the secret of heaven must not be revealed!" Seriously! The understanding of Taoism by the madmen of the Chu State has entered an extreme again, so! Your husband thinks: Crazy people are not really Taoists. ”

"Oh?" Zeng Shen asked with a serious face: "How did the madman of the Chu State enter the other extreme?" This one? I? I don't think I've heard my husband talk about it? Uncle Fang! You speak! Speak quickly! ”

Seeing Zeng Shen's impatient look, Fang Jishi smiled.

He knows! Zeng Shen deliberately said that he hadn't heard Mr. say it out of respect for you, but in fact, he just wanted to hear you say it again to see if it was the same as what Mr. said?

Or! He is talking to you, giving you a sense of presence and respect.

If he says he's heard what he says, doesn't that mean: don't you say it. If that's the case? This is the end of the conversation between the two sides, then he has participated in a "cold king".

Let others have nothing to say, and the conversation between the two sides can't go on, so what is it if you are not the "king of the cold field"?

"Your sir said! The understanding of Taoism by the madmen of the Chu State is wrong again, and they are going to the extreme side, which can also be said to be another extreme! Lao Tzu's predecessors said that people and all things come from the Tao, so! Man and all things are equal. Outcome! When he arrived at the madman of Chu State, his understanding became: man and all things are the same, and man should imitate all things to live.

On the surface, it seems to be what Lao Tzu's predecessors said, but it turned out to be not. Lao Tzu's predecessors only said the source of man and all things, saying that man and all things are equal, they all come from the Tao, and they are all children of the Tao, or they are the children of heaven and earth. But people are people after all, and all things are all things after all. Isn't it?

So! The misunderstanding of the madman of the Chu State appears here: he treats people as things! Therefrom! Freedom of the flood is derived. He wants to imitate other things, to be a free man, to be free like things. Being as free as an animal or an animal, he thinks that's in line with human nature.

In fact! He's going to the extreme. People are people, not things. All things are not the same, and every thing has one attribute......"

"Yes, yes, yes!" Zeng Shen interrupted: "My husband said: Gewu Zhizhi! Different things have their own properties. Human beings have human nature, things have material nature, and animals also have their own personality characteristics. ”

"That's right!" Fang Jishi nodded and said, "So say!" The madman of Chu State received public opinion, he regarded people as things, and he was one with all things, and the freedom he talked about was obviously a mistake. He did not treat man as a man, but confused man with all things. So! The understanding of the madman of the Chu State is wrong, he denies the intelligence of man and the situation that mankind is currently facing.

If we all understand people and society in this way, we will not be able to free ourselves from society. No! There will be no solution to the problems facing humanity. So! The madmen of Chu State can't have freedom and are hunted down and killed.

At that time, when the madman of the Chu State met your husband, he met when he was being chased and killed. If he hadn't been hunted down at the time, he might have disdained to see your husband! He felt that his understanding was correct, and looked down on your sir, so he was too lazy to see it. ”

"My husband said that the madman of Chu State is very conceited, just like he was a Si Kou for a few years, he is very conceited, he thinks he is great, how to think about it!"

"Your husband admits that he was conceited when he was a priest?"

"Hmm!" Zeng Shen nodded and said: "My husband told me that the change in his thinking began when Chen Guo was in power, and when he experienced Chen Cai's lack of food, his thinking was already very mature. When he saw the madman take over the public opinion, he was already very mature.

In the past, before he went to Luoyi in Eastern Zhou, he had a period of confusion. After seeing Lao Tzu come back from Luoyi, he drilled for a while. Until he became Si Kou, he appeared to be very inflated, and finally developed into a fallen Sandu.

My sir is wisely! He is not taboo about his past, he dares to admit his past. As for his travels around the world, he later said that he did not complain about anything, but felt that he had truly stepped out of the small world he had created, seen a real human world, and felt the real human life, the real life of the world......"

"Is that really what your husband admitted?" Fang Jishi asked.

"Hmm!" Zeng Shen nodded in response.

"The mistake of the madman of Chu State is that he is wrong: he treats people and all things as one, but does not treat people as human beings, and does not know things. He is going backwards, turning back the clock of history. Lao Tzu's predecessors said that people and all things come from the creation of heaven and earth, from the Tao, which is to say the essence of man and all things, not to be a human being like things, or to be an animal. Man is man, man is not a beast. So! Man and all things are not one. ”

"Yes, yes, yes! Uncle Fang is right! Zeng Shen remembered! Zeng Shen looked at Fang Jishi with a serious face, nodded and said.

"Taoism talks about freedom, but! Freedom is based on not affecting the lives and survival of others, not overflowing freedom. Taoist freedom is based on living in peace with others, in free time, rather than anytime, anywhere, willful freedom.

Let's put it this way! We Taoists are reborn and cherish the process of this life, aren't they? In order to survive, in order to survive better, it is not to hide in the mountains and farm, and not to ask about the world. It's not about treating yourself like a vegetative person, going backwards. But! Only by living in peace with others, cooperating with others, and combining greater forces to jointly fight against foreign enemies can we survive better.

So! Taoist freedom is based on free time, not anytime, anywhere, and not on a flood. ”

"Yes, yes, yes! Uncle Fang is right! "I have participated in and written.

(End of chapter)