Chapter 518: Lao Tzu and Confucius on the Relationship between Man and State
"Mr. Lao Tzu? After you dissolve society into individual people, don't you become a plate of scattered sand, and don't you become even more chaotic? Isn't it? In today's troubled times, it is difficult for individual people to live. There is no more country! The Hu people in the north and the southern barbarians in the south, they will form a team to invade our Great Zhou world and rob the property of the people.
Especially the nomads of the north, they are good at riding, they travel thousands of miles a day, they can run thousands of miles, intrude on our borders, and rob us of our property! Not to mention individual people, even the princes and small states in the north cannot fight against them.
For example! The kingdoms of Yan and Zhongshan in the north, as well as the states of Jin and Qin in the west, they could not contend with them. Isn't it? If there is no country, where can we fight against the Hu people......"
Lao Tzu interrupted: "I didn't say I don't want the country!" I just said the essence of the country, but you misunderstood, how can you understand that you don't want the country? I say! The combination of people and people forms a society! Isn't it? ”
"Yes!"
"I say! The combination of people forms families, clans, reunions, organizations, tribes, isn't it? ”
"Yes!"
"I say! When the state is no longer able to guarantee the survival and security of its people, the state will exist in name only, no longer exist, and will no longer have its role? Isn't it? ”
"Yes!"
"Just like the Western Zhou! What a powerful country it was, wasn't it? But after it loses its role in protecting its people, no matter how big the country is, it cannot protect its people. Not to mention protecting its people, it was unable to protect its own capital in the Western Zhou Dynasty at that time. At last! Moved the capital to Luoyi in the Eastern Zhou Dynasty, isn't it? ”
"Yes!"
"When the capital was on the side of Qin, it was the Western Zhou Dynasty. After moving to Luoyi, it became the Eastern Zhou! This is the origin of the Eastern Zhou and Western Zhou Dynasty. They are all Zhou, and they are all Great Zhou Dynasty. At the beginning of the Zhou Dynasty, it was powerful, and it was able to protect the people to live peacefully and let the people live happily for a while.
But! After a few hundred years, it loses its role and the state ceases to be a state! No! The power of the state was divided among the princes. The Son of Heaven was no longer the Son of Heaven, and the Great Zhou Dynasty could only live a begging life, relying on the tribute of the princes and kings to live.
As you can imagine! When the jade seal in the hands of the Son of Heaven no longer works, after the princes and kings want the jade seal seal of the Son of Heaven and an official document, the Great Zhou Dynasty will come to an end!
From ancient times to the present, the change of dynasties, but that's it! New nations, new dynasties are beginning to rise!
The above is about the origin of the state and the decline of the state. Below! That's it for you! The question you are talking about is: how can individual people protect themselves? Isn't it? ”
"Yes!"
"How individual people protect themselves, should not be taught by my Li Er, everyone knows. No one in the world is stupid, when one person's ability is not enough, they have to form a group! Isn't it? ”
"Yes!"
"The original team members, I don't need to say more! It's your own family, it's your parents, brothers and sisters! And then! It's your spouse and children! And then! Our family! And then! It's a part of our region. And then! is a larger range of people. Isn't it? ”
"Yes!" Confucius replied again. But! He was still not convinced! That's what Lao Tzu said? But? Still can't get up one after another.
How can individual people fight against the cavalry of the Hu people? How to prevent the thousand-mile attack of the Hu people?
Because! If there is no state, no state officials to organize, lead, and take precautions, how can we prevent the Hu people's thousand-mile attack?
"As for what you said, the Hu people in the north are coming to invade us! I think? People who live in the hinterland of the Great Zhou may not know the hatefulness of the Hu people. But! People who live in the north, as well as people who live in the south, are in constant contact with the Hu people and the Nanban.
Don't exaggerate the hatefulness of the Hu people and the Nanban, in normal times, there are contacts between them, there are commercial dealings. Wars and thousand-mile raids don't happen every day!
The winter of the year is only possible in the autumn. At this time of year, it is possible that the Hu people will come over and plunder the supplies for the winter. Or! This year, the Hu people were plagued by insects, and there was no land in the pasture, so they could not survive the winter, so they would also come and plunder.
But! Not all Hu people and Nanban are unreasonable. Only a few scourges, they took plundering as a means of survival and a way of survival, and only then did they think of coming to the Great Zhou Dynasty to plunder.
I mean! People who live in the north, and people who live in the south, are in constant contact with their neighbors, and they are guarded against. It's not like you think, left to the slaughter.
The Hu people's thousand-mile raid is a big deal to rob the bazaar, kill people in the bazaar, and rob the property in the bazaar. They seldom go to the countryside, and the countryside people live scattered all over the country and are relatively poor.
Of course! Not absolutely! In the course of their thousand-mile rush, the Hu people may loot the villages they pass through.
I mean! As long as there is prevention, the damage is minimal. Furthermore! Even if there is a national army stationed there, it will not necessarily be able to prevent and stop the invasion of the Hu people. Relatively speaking! With an army stationed there, there would have been fewer invasions by the Hu, but not absolutely.
Then again! How can there be no national army stationed at the border to prevent and prevent it? Although the Hu people are more rampant, but! Casualties on both sides were also heavier. Resistance teams organized by angry and hateful people are more capable of slaying the enemy who comes at them. The cavalry of the Hu people penetrated deeper into the hinterland of the Great Zhou, and the fewer people who returned alive.
In the end, the result would only be casualties on both sides, and the Hu people did not gain much. The people they sent to invade were generally young men of the Hu people. Outcome! Most of them died on the road of invasion and plunder......"
Speaking of which! Lao Tzu found that he had gone a little far and deviated from the topic.
He looked at Confucius and changed his words: "Only when we realize that our strength is weak, will we take the initiative to organize a team to increase our strength!" Isn't that the case? Therefore! Will it be the same as you think, are you not observant of the weekly etiquette? And then demonstrate, imitate, emulate to others? Isn't it?
It's different! You do this by catering to social management. And the world! Organizing a team spontaneously is the need for survival, the need to protect yourself, and the need for yourself! Do you understand?
Different from what you think is different here! You are there to cater to social management, and the world is to protect yourself......"
"Mr. Lao Tzu!" Confucius interrupted: "The method you said was spontaneous by people, not artificial!" But? The question arises: people are selfish for themselves, and society is not chaotic? There is no country anymore, isn't it more chaotic? According to Mr. Lao Tzu, there is no country at this time? Isn't it? ”
Lao Tzu nodded and responded: "The period I said should be without a country, what you said is not wrong!" ”
"Isn't that what it takes? Isn't it? Mr. Lao Tzu? Without a state and a wise man to manage and maintain it, let these people spontaneously organize into selfish teams, and society will not be even more chaotic......"
Lao Tzu did not answer Confucius immediately, but just looked at Confucius and smiled.
"Me? Am I wrong? Confucius asked.
Lao Tzu still didn't speak, shaking his head and laughing.
(End of chapter)