Sun Yuanqi blinked: "Mr. Morrison, instead of talking about my personal experience to satisfy the curiosity of the British people, wouldn't it be better for us to discuss the great civilization of the Chinese nation and the humiliation it has suffered from foreign powers in recent years, and let your sealed work be published in The Times to set the record straight, reveal the oppression of imperialism against China, and eliminate the discrimination of the British people against China." ”

Morrison was stunned for a moment before replying: "Since there is Dr. Johnson, who in Europe and the United States dares to discriminate against Chinese?" Moreover, the 30 years you have experienced are the period when the Chinese Empire has been turned upside down, and if you can combine your life history to introduce the great civilization of the Chinese nation to the British people and the humiliation suffered by the foreign powers in recent years, I believe the effect will be even better! chapter

Sun Yuanqi pondered for a moment and nodded: "It's okay, then let's start!" ”

When Wang Guowei saw that the interview had officially begun, he got up and said goodbye.

After Wang Guowei went out, Morrison quickly threw out the first question: "According to the research of Western historians of science, 'Yanke? Johnson's name became known to the world when it began in a paper published in the journal Science in 1898 called "Experimental Study of Uranium, Polonium and Radium Radiation Rays". This paper opened a new era in the study of the microstructure of matter, and also opened the most glorious and brilliant 'Johnson decade' in the development of modern physics. chapter

"But what puzzles scholars is that before that, 'Yank? Johnson's complete obscurity, not only did he not publish any articles, but he also found no trace at Yale University. It stands to reason that there is a Chinese student on the campus of Yale University, which is full of Americans. It's like a crane standing in a flock of chickens, and a piece of gold on top of the sand, which should be absolutely eye-catching. What do you think about this? ”

Sun Yuanqi said: "When I was at Yale University, I was very ordinary and very low-key. No one cared about me in the slightest, I just studied silently. You can think of it as taoguang or accumulation. In the Chinese classic Zhuangzi, it is said: "If the water is not thick, then the boat is not strong." It was those years of hard work that led to the publication of many papers.

"It may be very noticeable to have a crane standing in the flock and a piece of gold on the sand, but if there is a turkey in the crane flock and a grain of sand in the vault, no one will notice. Just like the famous Sir Newton, he escaped the plague and returned to the countryside of Lincolnshire to make outstanding achievements in the analysis of gravity, calculus, and light. But before that, who knew that there was another one in the world named 'Isaac?' Newton's lad? ”

Morrison replied weakly, "In fact, Sir Newton had already made a name for himself at Trinity College, Cambridge, for his discovery of the generalized binomial theorem. ”

"And what about earlier?" Sun Yuanqi asked.

Morridon: "In Lincolnshire, Sir Newton's hometown. and King's School, where he attended, and his anecdotes are still circulating! ”

Sun Yuanqi laughed and said: "These anecdotes are just a second-hand meeting of future generations!" In the Bible, Noah was confronted with a great flood that overwhelmed the earth; In Chinese mythology, sages such as Nuwa, Kun, and Yu also suffered devastating floods. This is known in literature as a 'motif' or 'story type'. There are many common types of stories in both China and the West. One of the typical ones is that great people always have an extraordinary childhood. And then it was attached to a myriad of wonderful little stories.

"If you go to my hometown of Huai'an now, there will definitely be a lot of little stories about me there, can you think they are all true? If left undenied, these stories will remain in circulation until hundreds of years later when they are written into textbooks by scholars and become part of history. But is this history true? In fact, my teenager was just a normal student who was overlooked, and that's it! ”

Morley's pen flies. Wrote down Sun Yuanqi's wonderful remarks. While he felt the remarks were debatable, he wasn't prepared to spend too much time on the issue. Because he still has many questions to ask and an important political mission to complete.

He went on to ask: "Another point of great interest to the British public is that in the decade from 1898 to 1908, you did a great deal of pioneering work in physics, chemistry, astronomy, electronics, etc., and your achievements are comparable to those of Galileo and Newton, and you are known as 'encyclopedic scientific giants' and 'the greatest scientists of our time.'" However, in the golden age of scientific research, your hobbies have gradually shifted from science and technology to education and even politics, which has attracted countless scientific researchers around the world. What is the reason for this? Is it what you Chinese call 'Jiang Lang's talent'? ”

Sun Yuanqi said: "You can think that I am Jiang Lang's talent, of course, you can also think that I am carrying out another accumulation. But it is undeniable that every scientist has his or her most glorious golden phase, after which it will go downhill. For example, in the two years when Sir Newton fled the plague and returned to the countryside of Lincolnshire, he had the greatest achievements in his life, and it was difficult to go beyond that again. ”

Morridon: "Then why did you choose to pursue politics? Aren't politics and science opposites? More than one person in the scientific community has pointed out that you have gone astray in politics and are the greatest waste of scientific research talent in history. ”

Sun Yuanqi said: "First of all, it is not me who chooses politics, but politics who chooses me. And I don't think that engaging in politics and scientific research are opposites. In my opinion, both political and scientific research are aimed at solving the problems that people encounter, but one is life and the other is knowledge, and there is no contradiction between the two. As for the criticism that 'doing politics is going astray', I also think it is a bit biased.

"Was Sir Newton's study of theology a betrayal of science in his later years? Is it a waste of scientific research talents? Everyone who lives in society will study the things they are just interested in, and they do not have to be limited to a certain scope. Perhaps in Newton's view, science and theology were both worthy of study, and there was never any consideration of whether they were contradictory. I have maintained this attitude when dealing with science, education, and politics. ”

Morrison paused: "Dr. Johnson, I have found that you are very fond of using Sir Newton as an example when answering questions, and you are also known as 'the first person after Newton', and the quantum mechanics you founded is the greatest reaction against classical mechanics. What do you think of Newton? ”

Sun Yuanqi said: "There is no doubt that Newton is the greatest scientist of all time, and he is also one of the objects of my admiration. It was from learning what he discovered that I gradually entered the path of scientific research. ”

Morrison thought to himself, maybe the title of this interview could be called "Johnson: A Lifelong Look Up to Newton" or "First Newton, Then Johnson", which I think can attract more British readers. Then, he took out a piece of paper again: "Lord Sun, I want to ask you some political questions next, is that okay?" ”

Sun Yuanqi moved his body in the chair: "I will try my best to answer the questions that can be answered." ”

"Last October, a rebellion broke out in Wuchang, Hubei, followed by the declaration of independence of the provinces, which led to the collapse of the Qing Empire, which had ruled China for nearly three hundred years. Months have passed since the incident, and the domestic situation remains volatile, with foreign public opinion widely believing that China will fall into a prolonged state of anarchy. As one of the most influential people in China today, what do you think? ”

Sun Yuanqi rubbed his brows: "I think foreign public opinion is a bit alarmist!" Although the provinces are now in a state of semi-independence, I believe that as long as the peace between the north and the south is reached, a parliamentary republic should be implemented as soon as possible, and efforts should be made to confine the political struggle to the parliamentary elections as much as possible, rather than resorting to force. After three to five years of integrated training, China will end its fragmentation and become a healthy and modern country. Therefore, we should have confidence in the future of this country! ”

"Although I don't have a hero-worship complex, I believe that in order to lead China to a strong and bright future, it will require a leader with absolute authority to act as a president, and to establish a republic that integrates the American and French systems, part of the Swiss constitution, and the liberal Great Britain with the British capitalist politics, economy, culture, and diplomacy as its guiding principles," Morrison asked. ”

Sun Yuanqi naturally understood the meaning of Morrison's words: "I at least partially agree with your opinion!" ”

"Oh?"

Sun Yuanqi explained: "I think what China needs most now is not a powerful person, but a party that is enlightened enough and has the power to rule. When a powerful man comes to power, he will try to abolish the parliamentary republic that restricts power, and he will always resort to force in the process of ruling the country. After several unsuccessful reforms, coupled with the ravages of foreign powers, China is already sick and dying, where can it withstand such a toss? In doing so, it will only make the country worse. If there is no suitable political party, the next best thing is to have an absolute authority in the lead. ”

"The reality is that China has just lifted the ban on the party, and all kinds of political parties are still in the embryonic stage, and it is simply difficult for them to undertake the important mission of enriching the country and strengthening the people. ”

Sun Yuanqi followed his meaning and said: "So Yuan Xiangcheng is the only competent leader in China now, and it is also the future of China, if he does not try to change the republican system." ”

"Then what else do you disagree with?" Morrison asked.

Sun Yuanqi said: "As for what kind of system the country should adopt, I think it should be determined according to the actual situation in China at the moment, rather than copying the British system, or picking up the 'essence' of European and American countries to make up a four-like!" (To be continued...) )