Hearing Gawain's words, Rosetta's eyes changed slightly, and his body leaned forward slightly: "It seems that you have an agreement with Talrond?" ”

"The Provisional Council of Tarrond is currently the only legitimate governing body of Tarrond, and the dragons under its rule are legitimate citizens, and the states of the Alliance and the Dragon Kingdom will recognize each other's legitimacy - in addition to this, any dragon that does not obey the control of the Council, does not abide by the alliance agreement, does not enforce the rules of entry and exit, and destroys the territorial security of the alliance members has no citizenship rights of any country by default," Gawain said unhurriedly, "The threat of out-of-control dragons is great, and it is a threat to us, and the same is true for Tarlund." ”

“…… Terrible decision," Rosetta couldn't help but say, "The dragons could make such a decision......

"This is a race that we have never formally come into contact with, they have a different way of thinking and history than we do, and in some ways, the gap between them and us is even far greater than the gap between us and the elves," Gawain nodded, saying his impression of the dragon, "The dragon is far superior to other mortal races in terms of discipline, determination, and importance of contracts, and their ability to cope with change and learn new things may be the opposite, It will take a while for us to get to know and get used to these new friends, and so will they. ”

At this point, he paused and continued very seriously, "This is exactly what we must always think about after we build an alliance. Our allies have crossed countries, crossed races, and even crossed the once known boundaries of civilization, all grew up in different cultural environments, and now we must be united in order to cope with the existential pressure of the whole world, we lack a historically tested integration process, so different ways of thinking will inevitably bring large and small frictions and even collisions, this collision is not something that can be solved by a certain great power with absolute force suppression, it first needs those countries with strong regional appeal to take the initiative to take the lead - And the countries themselves must be on the same page. ”

"Looks like you've been thinking about this for a long time," Rosetta finally nodded after deep thought, "I agree with you - Typhon is willing to take his share of responsibility in this matter." ”

Gawain laughed: "You see, an open and honest conversation is still very effective. ”

He then led directly to the next topic: "Next...... Now that we've talked about the realm of the gods, let's stretch this topic on. We have just ended a war against the gods, and as the common victorious leader, I would like to hear your thoughts on this war. ”

"My opinion?" Rosetta showed a complicated and inexplicable wry smile, "My biggest opinion is that this kind of war is enough once...... At such a huge cost, such a difficult battle, our victory was only to destroy a 'spiritual phantom' that we had created ourselves, and apart from those fragments that could only be used as research materials, the god of war left behind only a scorching scorched earth - he would not bear any war reparations, and the word 'victorious nation' you just mentioned was more like a kind of irony. ”

“…… The dragons have proved the same thing with their own experience: it is probably not a good idea to smash the shackles by killing the gods head-on, and the price will become heavier as civilization progresses, and we seem to have reached a stage where the cost is too heavy, so if we don't have no choice, we would better choose the safer path. ”

Rosetta raised her eyelids slightly when she heard this: "The Theocratic Council? ”

"Exactly."

“…… I've heard the name more than once in this time, and I've guessed more than once about its mechanics and functions, and I can guess that you're going to work with the mechanics of the gods, but I can't think of exactly how you're going to do it," Rosetta said, "and you're referring to the concepts of universal literacy, church formalization, and emancipation of the mind in general terms...... So I've been thinking a lot lately about what they have in common. ”

"The greatest common denominator is 'de-sacralization'," Gawain looked into Rosetta's eyes, he finally said the word, put it on the table, and put it in front of a cooperative ally - but he never thought that this collaborator would be Rosetta Augustus, at this moment, Rao also couldn't help but sigh at the wonder of fate, the development of everything in the world is always so unexpected, "Since we all know how the gods came to be, then a little backwards, we can also figure out how they 'didn't'." ”

Desanctification - the moment she heard the word, Rosetta subconsciously narrowed her eyes.

He had been thinking about the real core of Gawain's huge plan for a long time in the past few years, he had gone through all the books Gawain had written, he had read every sentence in it, he knew every decision Gawain had made in the past few years, and he continued to summarize the principles from it, and he had actually almost glimpsed the whole picture of the plan about the Theocracy Council - only a key word, a suggestive "key" was missing.

Now, he finally knows what this key is.

"Will this work?" He looked at Gawain with unprecedented solemnity, "Relying on just one to de-sanctify? ”

"Of course, it's not just one method, but it's going to be the most influential factor," Gawain explained, "After analyzing the formation principle and operating mechanism of the gods, we have determined that it is a large number of believers' 'currents' that shape and influence the gods for a long time, and the basis of this trend of thought is 'attribution of everything' - it is precisely because people believe that something is the authority of the gods that will cause the corresponding authority to become the gods that exist in reality, so blocking this process is the key ......"

"Blindness and ignorance led to the birth of such 'currents,'" Rosetta took the initiative to take over the topic, "because people don't know the truth about something, and they have never heard of any logically based way to explain the unknown, so they naturally lead to some existence that does not need to be explained at all......"

"Yes, the key is 'thinking', active 'thinking'," Gawain nodded, "It is only when thinking becomes a habit that people first think of the logic behind it when they encounter the unknown, rather than attributing it all to some divine and all-powerful being, and this kind of thinking ...... It must be based on a certain degree of universal education, and at the same time it is necessary to control the influence of the church. ”

"But the wise are always in the minority," Rosetta tried to find the unrealizable in this theory, "there is no such thing as a perfect state in which everyone can think rationally, and you cannot guarantee that the effect of education will be so ideal for everyone when it is universal—it is more likely that there will be countless half-informed fools and countless bombastic 'tavern scholars', whose thinking has nothing to do with the truth, and the distance between true knowledge and their minds may be wider than the endless ocean, such people ......"

Rosetta gave a subtle look, it was obvious that he was not just deducing the results, but really knew them well, and Gawain immediately thought of why Rosetta described these phenomena so accurately-

Because Typhon's education popularization project was actually many years earlier than Cecil, although they were not as successful as Cecil in this matter due to "taking some detours", the accumulation of a long time was enough for Rosetta to see many "unexpected effects" after the popularization of education.

Gawain laughed, his fingers lightly tapping on the armrest of the sofa next to him: "Tavern scholars, oral experts, folk scholars, paper philosophers, one glass of wine can discuss runes with you, two glasses of wine can discuss mathematics and physics with you, and after three glasses of wine, they will have the confidence to explain to you the basic laws of our world, and even dare to question all the authorities in the world." "Let's have a book

"It's the best review I've ever heard," Rosetta looked surprised at first, then couldn't help but smile on his face, "but I must admit that you summed it up very thoroughly, these people ...... Is that the 'thinker' you want? ”

"Isn't it?" Gawain suddenly put away the ridicule in his expression, and asked very seriously, "Aren't they thinking?" ”

Rosetta subconsciously frowned: "They ......"

"They were thinking, though not so precisely, but they didn't try to attribute these problems to some transcendent and all-powerful god, regardless of a few glasses of wine—because the very fact that 'everything is omnipotent to the gods' is in itself an act contrary to thinking. When they talk to people in taverns and alleys, they are also looking for what they think is 'knowledge', not the code of some god. You may think these people are ridiculously shallow, but you should see that they are at least trying to understand the world with their own eyes, not God-given eyes.

This is what I call universal education and the greatest effect of emancipating the mind - it cannot make everyone become a scholar, nor can it make everyone learn to think logically, but it can make everyone have the common sense that everything in the world can be explained logically, and knowledge can change human understanding of the world. On this basis, they will think, and think itself...... It is the greatest shake to the gods. ”

Rosetta's expression finally became solemn, and he pondered these questions under Gawain's guidance, which he had never tried as a natural nobleman, as a ruler accustomed to looking down on the entire empire.

He finally gradually understood Gawain's intentions, and nodded slowly: "I think I have understood......"

"You don't fully understand," Gawain said, leaning forward slightly and staring into Rosetta's eyes, "Typhon's education has been going on for years, and although progress has been slow, there must have been a lot of base accumulation over the years—but have you investigated the patterns behind these data?" Have you done any surveys to investigate the proportion of devout, shallow, and pan-believers among the population after receiving literacy education, to investigate the influence of the church in educationally developed and educationally underdeveloped areas, and to investigate the frequency and response rate of priests and gods in different regions? ”

“…… No," Rosetta shook her head after a brief thought, "I've never thought about it in that direction. ”

"That's the problem, Typhon did a lot of things, even earlier than Cecil, but many of your things didn't work out of the system," Gawain sighed, "Since we are now going to enter the same alliance, then I am happy to give you some help in this regard, of course, correspondingly, I also hope that you can open up your data in this regard—not to me, but to the Theocratic Council, which will be of vital help to us in our research on the mysteries of the gods." ”

"I guess that's fine." Rosetta agreed to Gawain's request without much thought - he seemed to be completely unaware of the huge value of the unique "large social data" accumulated over the past ten years and controlled by the royal family, not because he was shallow or negligent, but because no one in this field had studied it at all......

Gawain nodded, a sincere smile on his face.

Rosetta was lost in thought, and it took half a minute before he broke his silence.

"So what the Theocratic Council is to do is not to openly attack any church, nor to promote a negative image of any god," Rosetta said as she pondered, "and the Theocratic Council itself does not 'declare war' on any one god." ”

"Yes, this will minimize the acceleration of the 'countdown' and alleviate the doubts of many member states - after all, although the monarchy and the divine right are naturally opposed, the rulers of each country still have to worry about the power of the church in their own countries," Gawain nodded and said, "In fact, the Theocracy Council will not declare war on any of the gods, it will even help the gods to do some 'propaganda'......"

"Propaganda?" Rosetta didn't understand what Gawain meant for a moment, and he looked a little confused.

"The priests are secularized, the dogmas are popularized, the gods are starred, and in the end, the belief system is entertained," the corners of Gawain's mouth curled slightly, "We will not create a negative image of any gods, on the contrary, we will even make them more glorious in the magic shadow dramas, magazines, and in the process...... Gradually, it ceased to be mysterious, nor sacred. ”

Rosetta looked at Gawain dumbfounded, as if listening to a fantasy.

Then he took a long breath, and the expression on his face became more complicated and wonderful than ever: "...... You're the most daring I've ever seen...... Even bold to the point of being a little scary. ”

He seemed to hesitate at the end of the word "man", but he did not replace it with another word.

Gawain noticed Rosetta's slight hesitation, but he just smiled: "Don't you think this plan is worth trying?" ”

"If it weren't for Augustus, I'm afraid I'd have been scared by you," Rosetta made a small joke before his expression became serious, "I'll join." ”

Gao Wen smiled and raised the wine glass in his hand: "Fighting with the sky, it's endless fun." ”

Rosetta was stunned for a moment, he savored this strange-sounding sentence, and gradually smiled, and also raised his glass: "Fighting with the sky is endless." ”