Chapter 387 [Reaching a Consensus]
The phrase "you can try" really calmed Peter Wernick, and he wanted to know where the other party got the confidence.
But then again, if it were another Chinese, he might scoff at it, but the person in front of him is called Luo Sheng, a miracle maker!
Lithography machines are indeed difficult, super difficult, but they are not made by humans?
Peter Wernick has done his research and done his homework, and he knows that there are more Chinese graduates in engineering, natural sciences, engineering, and blood transfusions in China than in the United States and Europe combined, and that the number is growing faster than anywhere else in the world.
Since 2002, the number of graduates in these disciplines has increased by more than 100,000 per year, and a large number of young engineers have been continuously exported to society.
Quantitative change will always cause qualitative change, the future is full of uncertainty, and with the leadership of people like Luo Sheng, it will create new miracles in the field of lithography machines.
Peter Wernick didn't feel the need to take the risk for SIA and the Americans, and decided to give the ball to the Americans.
But this meeting is not a big deal.
As soon as the people from ASML left, Liu Yixuan, who was in charge of Xiongxin Electronics, couldn't help but sigh faintly: "Without a lithography machine, Xiongxin Electronics would not have any production capacity." ”
Luo Sheng said lightly: "It's just a bargain, it will be supplied, otherwise Winnick won't come all the way to come and make an autumn breeze?" Who believes, Moore's Law is on our side, and if it's a big deal, we will hurt each other, and give me three years at most and five years at most to develop a high-end lithography machine by myself. ”
Regardless of whether ASML delivers or not, Luo Sheng will actively lay out, and the four words of scientific and technological independence are not just a slogan, but must be put into practical action, and the use of them is the greatest use.
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In a high-end hotel room, Peter Wernick is on the phone with John, the head of the North American semiconductor industry association, SIA, of which ASML is a core member.
At this moment, Winnick said to the phone with dissatisfaction: "Mr. John, if ASML cannot be delivered, then it will inevitably compete with better Chinese products in the next five to ten years, I don't want Luo Sheng to copy a miracle on my turf to make his aura more dazzling." The best thing to do is to sell it to them and get them to give up their own development, which I don't feel strange at all, and I don't want to take this risk, even if the probability is very low, if you know ASML very well, and this is also a blow to us. ”
Peter Winnick did not exaggerate in fact, he was really a little worried that Luo Sheng would create a miracle in the field of lithography machines, because the number of engineers born in China every year exceeds that of any country or region in the world, which may be mediocre, but the amount is too large, no matter how small the probability is, a few geniuses will emerge, and now Luo Sheng is already a visible genius in the scientific and technological world.
Huaguo has the potential of a talent base, there is already a leader like Luo Sheng, or a master who is not short of money, coupled with a huge consumer market, the basic conditions are already in place, and the rest is a matter of time.
If Luo Sheng still stuck on the FinFET patent, everyone would be stuck here and unable to progress and develop, and he Luo Sheng was catching up like crazy, and the gap between the two sides was shortened or even equaled, and this situation is likely to come faster than imagined.
That's Peter Wernick's biggest concern.
Actually, not only Peter Winnicke, but also semiconductor giants such as Intel? Everyone is not stupid, and it is impossible not to analyze it.
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Time passed, and Peter Wernick stayed here for three days at a time, and he was not in a hurry to leave.
This made Luo Sheng more calm, and the initiative was obviously already in his hands.
On the fourth day of Peter Wernicke's arrival in Sioux City, the two sides met again, and the meeting took place at the Lens Semiconductor office building.
In the reception room, Peter Wernick and Luo Sheng sat facing each other, and the latter looked at each other and said slowly, "How is it Mr. Wernicke?" Have you made a decision? I'm a person who hates multiple-choice questions, and I once told people at IBM that I don't make choices, I leave them to choose. It's the same this time, I don't choose, you choose, so tell me your choice. ”
Liu Yixuan, who was also in the reception room, secretly admired in her heart, the boss's age was obviously younger than herself, but that kind of aura was really fascinating.
Peter Weinick, who was sitting opposite, was speechless for a while, and after a moment he smiled awkwardly but elegantly, and then said with a very refined gentlemanly demeanor: "Mr. Luo, I can tell you a good news now, and it is good news for us. ”
Luo Sheng was interested: "Oh? I would like to hear about it. ”
Peter Winnick said bluntly: "Just today I received reliable news that ASML has obtained a license from the Dutch authorities that the 45nm lithography machine equipment can be exported to China, you heard it right, and can be sold to your company." ”
Luo Sheng smiled: "It is indeed good news." ”
Xindao, wouldn't it be nice to do this earlier? I have to be embarrassed, but this kind of thought Luo Sheng still muttered in his heart, after all, he didn't stretch out his hand and hit the smiling person.
Peter Wernick laughed: "But we have one more condition. ”
Luo Sheng said lightly: "What conditions?" ”
Peter Winnick was also unkind, saying: "That is, you can't research the lithography machine yourself, and this non-compete must be written into the terms of cooperation." ”
Luo Sheng was dissatisfied: "Why? Yes, but I also have conditions, provided that you lift the ban on the most advanced lithography machine to me, I also want to develop, if it restricts my development, I would rather not. ”
For a while, what seemed to be about to reach a consensus fell into a new stalemate.
At the end, Luo Sheng turned back and said: "In this way, three years at most, this is the final bottom line, Mr. Winnick, this paper agreement of yours is trying to pinch the throat of my future fate, and you will turn your face as soon as the agreement is signed, what should I do?" ”
Peter Winnick shook his head and said firmly: "No way, ASML is most concerned about corporate reputation, as long as you give up independent research and development of lithography equipment, we can establish a long-term strategic partnership to provide a series of best quality solutions." ”
Luo Sheng sneered bluntly: "With all due respect, I really can't trust you with your bad deeds, if your company still insists on doing this, I don't think there is any need to waste the precious time of both parties." ”
Peter Wernick was slightly embarrassed.
Obviously, Luo Sheng will never agree to such a clause, which is equivalent to judging the future.
Three years is his biggest bottom line, because the lithography machine is really not easy to do, and it is not an overnight thing to build a whole industrial chain of domestic semiconductor business.
Both sides are pondering inwardly and judging the situation for themselves.
Peter Wicknick faced Luo Sheng's final concession, and he also knew that this was the opponent's final bottom line.
After a while, Peter Weinick gradually made a decision in his heart, the three-year limit is okay, although he is worried that Luo Sheng will create a miracle, but one yard is one yard, which cannot hide the technical difficulties of lithography machine equipment, and it is just a false proposition to worry that Luo Sheng will create a miracle, and it will backfire if he is too guarded, and he is a little scared of himself.
Peter Winnick pondered in his heart, and couldn't help nodding secretly, although three years is not long, it is not short, and the export to the other party is not the most advanced equipment at present, so he can maintain the lead.
At the end, Peter Winnick finished thinking and broke the quiet atmosphere, only to see him smile gentlemanly again, look at Luo Sheng and say, "Okay, just three years, we accept it, and I wish you good luck." ”
Although Luo Sheng is indeed a person who is good at creating miracles and attaches great importance to this, Peter Winnick still firmly believes that high-end lithography machine technology cannot be achieved in three years without the help of ASML.
Luo Sheng smiled, he didn't reply, but stretched out his hand to the other party.
Seeing this, Peter Wernick smiled and accepted it gladly, and the two sides shook hands with each other, which meant that the final consensus was finally reached.
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