Calm down, are you trying to bring down the Pantheon?"

In the conference room on the top floor of the Pantheon in Beta City, Nicole and Timmy were still staring at each other, radiating their respective divine lights like peacocks, the shock waves of divine power were rippling, and the window panes were buzzing.

Aurora and Li Qi each yelled at each other, and finally asked them to hold back their divine light and sit down honestly.

There were also Xiaohong Deity, Tina, Eve, Stan, Asuna and others, and the other supergods and high-level officials either didn't understand enough about this matter, or were busy with other work, so they didn't attend.

"Actually, what you are fighting about is whether we should engage in a planned economy or a market economy. ”

Xiaohong, worthy of being a designer and guide, set the tone for the meeting as soon as she opened her mouth: "In the past, the focus of our practice in the economic field was to ensure public ownership and commune, and the specific economic path was to walk on two legs. It's just that they go their own way, and because they are always in a wartime state, the problem is not prominent. ”

"Now that the decisive battle of Heaven Mountain has been won, we can't sing the leading role on the Xinghai side, and the focus of social development has shifted to economic construction. But if the two legs can't coordinate the pace, there will be a problem, and if it is not solved as soon as possible, we won't even be able to walk. ”

This mouthful made Nicole and Timmy shout at the same time, "What!?"

"Still going with her!?"

Xiaohong was dazed: "Is there something wrong?"

Li Qi sighed: "Do you mean that the planned economy and the market economy still have to go hand in hand and continue to practice a dual-track system?"

"Now the problem is here, what we have to solve is not how to coordinate the two legs, but to determine which leg to ...... No, it's a question of what a new leg should look like. ”

Xiaohong spread her hands: "I can't imagine any new legs, isn't the planned economy and the market economy one main and one auxiliary? Of course, whoever is in charge and who is auxiliary depends on the needs, isn't this what is being discussed?"

Li Qi rolled his eyes: "The situation we are facing now can no longer be solved with the experience of the earth world, so let's throw away your old rotten things." ”

Xiaohong scratched her nostrils: "Then I have nothing to say, just use this as a database." ”

Although Red's tone was rejected, it still revealed the nature of the struggle between Nicole and Timmy.

Nicole is naturally full of confidence, she has asked for a lot of information from Xiaohong, and has carefully studied the economics and economic history of the earth world.

"The planned economy mentioned by Sister Xiaohong is just a primitive thing, don't still hold the prejudice of primitive backwardness. ”

"The core principle of the planned economy is consistent with the principle of our Datongism, which is distribution according to need. ”

"We say that the Red Union is already in the initial stage of cosmopolitanism, and if there is no planned economy to dominate it, what kind of cosmopolitan society is it called?"

Nicole began to critique the planned economy of the earth world, which is also the understanding of Li Qi and other people who have worked in the economy, or have been involved in it. Of course, Xiaohong's database can search for a vast sea of critical articles, and Nicole does not copy those arguments, but combines the actual situation of the Red Union.

Strictly speaking, the planned economy has two attributes, one is the political and economic system with the attributes of ownership, which is reflected in the fact that it is an economic system that naturally matches the Datongism and is the embodiment of the Datongism distribution according to demand.

At the same time, the other layer of the planned economy is purely technical means. In the practice of the earth world, the planned economy does not have the necessary ownership attributes, it is inherently the best mode of social resource distribution under war, disaster and special conditions, and it is inseparable from the rationing system.

Criticism of the planned economy is often skewed to the rhythm of attacking the first-level attributes, while ignoring that most of the practical problems of the planned economy are reflected in the second-level attributes.

The core problem of the planned economy as a technical means is that the "demand" in the distribution according to demand cannot be accurately grasped in reality. As a result, the plan is always unable to keep up with the changes, except for those targeted plans, it is difficult for all kinds of plans in the natural state to reflect the real needs, resulting in a large waste of resources.

Another fatal flaw is that the entire process of the planned economy, from gathering information to making plans to being responsible for distribution, is driven by human will. When these links come together, they will inevitably form a bureaucratic system, and the actual operation will deviate from the basic point of resource allocation and social development, and will be incorporated into another track by the will to power.

As for the planned economy as the first-level attribute of the political and economic system, the problems of lack of materials, lack of innovation, and curbing desire that have manifested themselves in practice are not just institutional problems, but more historical problems.

"So the problem of the planned economy is only a technical problem......

Nicole gushed endlessly, and the stereoscopic projection on the table continued to change with her explanation, and the "PPT technique" had advanced to the master level.

"Even in the global world, relying only on pure silicon-based computer technology, the Internet has also developed, giving birth to a series of new technologies and new concepts such as big data, intelligent manufacturing, and streamlined manufacturing. ”

"Using these technologies to transform the planned economy is fully capable of accurately and real-time grasp of demand, and deliver by greatly shortening the production and transaction links. ”

"Coupled with technologies such as blockchain, excluding the interference of mortal will, the planned economy can completely emerge in a new face and support Datongism...... Well, the earth world hasn't gotten to that point yet, but the intermediate stage of socialism is always achievable. ”

"This is still the Earth World, look at our practice!"

Speaking of the work she presided over, Nicole even more frowned: "Since the founding of the Red Union, there have been continuous wars of all sizes, but in terms of resource allocation, we have not only met the needs of the war, but also kept pace with the times!"

"In terms of basic security, our ration list is getting longer and longer, and in terms of scarce resources, we have also achieved prosperity through communes and guilds!"

"On the whole, the people of the Red Union have never felt a lack of materials, suppressed desires, endless innovations, and a society far more active than their neighbors. ”

"Just counting the period from the collapse of the Dawning Empire to the end of the Battle of Heavenly Mountain, the number of mortals who fled from the territory of the Holy Will Empire and the original Dawning Empire was as high as a million. ”

"The vast majority of refugees are civilians, and they are still in the realm of survival and not the pursuit of supernatural power. Even so, they chose Chilian, because not only can they survive here, but the planned economic system we have implemented also allows them to freely pursue reasonable wealth and achieve greater happiness!"

"Why are we able to do this?"

With a wave of Nicole's arm, an array of ethereal servers, side-of-the-art assistants, and a simulacrum of the Red Net were projected on the table.

"We have Ethereal technology! Our Ethereal servers are much more powerful than silicon-based computers!"

"This makes our information processing faster, our on-the-go assistants smarter and more user-friendly, and our provisioning faster and more accurate!"

"We have a red network! Our red network is several generations more advanced than the electromagnetic wave network, and it belongs to the magic level of black technology for mortals on earth!"

"The communication and logistics network based on the red network allows the circulation of materials anytime, anywhere!"

"We have all kinds of extraordinary powers, so that production and circulation can overcome many natural obstacles, and we can provide all kinds of technical means to solve the various shortcomings of the planned economy in the demonless world. ”

"In fact, when we pioneered the Divine Fall Plateau, we began to practice the planned economy through the Adventurer Service Center. ”

"Isn't our task system just a plan? through the task system to release demand, promote social production, producers get fair remuneration, there is no bureaucratic intervention in the distribution link, supply and demand are directly connected, real-time, efficient and clean. ”

"This system has now been extended to various fields, even our fleet, as well as the national manufacturing center have been incorporated into this system, and it is working very well. ”

"Didn't Sister Xiaohong and the Chief Cardinal say that this game mode is one of the Datongism modes that we are exploring, and it is the core mode. And the economic system of the game is dominated by the operator, isn't this a planned economy?"

Nicole from the earth world to the world of Fein, from social practice to game mode, is indeed reasonable, convincing, planned economy...... In other words, it is a planned economy with Fein characteristics, and the advantages are extremely obvious, and it feels irrefutable.

When it was Timmy's turn, her counterattack was extremely sharp: "Since the planned economy is so powerful, why does our Red Union still have a widespread gray market or even a black market, and everyone is also complaining that contribution points, adventure points, and red coins have different circulation fields, and even some small needs in life feel restricted?"

Nicole stammered, "This, isn't this you, what the hell did you!?"

Aurora actually agreed with Timmy's words, and she sighed: "Yes, I used to go shopping with Li Qi and took a fancy to a necklace in a silver jewelry store, but the old lady didn't need to be a personal assistant, and she was not an official citizen and couldn't collect contribution points." We didn't have any red coins on us, so we ended up borrowing money from Sardar to buy ......"

Speaking of this, she glanced at Li Qi fiercely, and naturally remembered the old account that the necklace was gone.

Timmy continued: "Also, you are going too far to call the Adventurer Service Center, or even the current adventurer Enlaing, a planned economy!"

"This system has the shadow of a planned economy, but the principle followed is distribution according to work, which violates the principle of distribution according to needs in the planned economy, right?"

"No matter what the economic model is, I think that just as Datongism freedom means more freedom, not restriction of freedom, the more advanced the model, the more compatible it must be with the most primitive and fundamental things that are most in line with human nature and that people agree with from the bottom of their hearts. ”

"Just like Sister Aurora said, if an economic system cannot allow the old lady and Sister Aurora to complete this face-to-face smoothly, the most basic transaction between producers and demanders is imposed by their respective identities or attributes, resulting in rising transaction costs. ”

"In terms of cost and efficiency alone, such a system can't compare to the free market economy of the goddess of commerce, right?"

She also waved away the stereoscopic projection on the table, brushing out a large number of numbers.

"There is no problem in relying on technology to make up for the shortcomings of the planned economy. ”

"However, there is still a congenital flaw in the planned economy, which cannot be solved by technology. ”

"That's where the demand comes from?"

"Not all demand emerges spontaneously, or it is produced after there is demand. Most of the demand is in the course of the transaction, based on the constant emergence of competition. ”

"Even in the initial stage of Datongism, there are scarce resources, and the principle of distribution of scarce resources is distribution according to work, which is reflected in monetary ...... It doesn't matter what the points or red coins are, it's still price competition. ”

"It is through competition that products can be continuously updated, more new technologies will emerge, and demand will continue to arise, so as to form a virtuous circle. ”

"The planned economy can't play this role, and even if Rusya is the god of planning, she can't arrange the needs of each consumer. There is no way to promote technological progress and generate rolling demand while the demand is constantly being satisfied

"Who can predict what new demand I will have for Longjiao in three days' time? ”

"Only the market can do such a job, and only the market can integrate production and circulation, connect demand and supply, and be unhindered by various factors, which is also its natural mission. ”

"The market is not just feudal or capital, when the transaction is established and all links are born, it is naturally born. It will inevitably follow the mortal and develop all the way, as natural and inseparable as the breath of the mortal. ”

"If the planned economy is to eliminate the market, it will be the same as the elimination of basic human nature by cosmopolitanism, which I think is neither homogeneous nor planned. ”

Timmy's explanation was not so formal, but it started from the fundamental level, and everyone nodded their heads again and again.

If the Datongist society had to eliminate the old lady who sold homemade silver necklaces, it would be unimaginable and would be an evil path.

Li Qi pulled everyone's thoughts away from the purely economic level, and said: "No matter which model is a planned economy or a market economy, there is no such thing as purity. ”

"Even a country in the world that prides itself as a beacon of freedom boasts that it is a free market economy, but they spare no effort to suppress monopolies, and the government uses its will to power to intervene in economic activities at all levels. ”

"If it is a free market, why should we suppress monopolies? Isn't monopoly born of free competition?"

"Their proponents patch up that monopolists will stifle free competition, so ...... In short, paradoxical. ”

"And they suppress monopolies not to ensure free competition, because the object of suppression is the entity enterprise, the real capital monopoly group, on that street, through all kinds of intricateness, even the god of law is difficult to figure out, and there are also overt and dark interest agreements entangled together, why not suppress it?"

After spraying eagle sauce, Li Qi pulled back the topic: "When we talk about the economy, we can't just talk about the economy, we still have to talk about it in combination with politics." ”

"What is the politics of Finn's world? ”

"So let's sort out our economic system and don't ignore that our society is not maintained and promoted by the economic system alone. ”

"There is another dimension to our cosmopolitan society, and that is the development of supernatural powers. The existence of the element of supernatural power has the first and all-round impact on the economy. ”

"To put it simply, the economy that only includes material production and demand, as well as services, cannot cover our entire society. In addition to this, the pursuit of the path of faith and the pursuit of the power of faith is another level. ”

"The question arises, whether our economic system is under the level of supernatural power, or whether it must also be included in this level, I think it is probably not as simple as choosing between a planned economy and a market economy. ”

Richie's words are instructive, but also ...... Muddy the waters, and everyone was confused.

Tina muttered at this time: "I don't think there is any need to mention the planned economy and the market economy, otherwise the struggle will become a struggle for concepts rather than solving practical problems." ”

"That's how I understood the argument between Nicole and Timmy just now. ”

Nicole felt that she needed a will that was beyond all of them, and that she could arrange production and meet demand, regardless of other factors. ”

"Timmy believes that the market can transcend the will of all people, and integrate production and demand to promote everyone's development. ”

Li Qi also said that the supernatural power cannot be ignored in this matter, just like each commune also has its own contribution points, and now as long as he completes the commune task, or makes any contribution, he can get the corresponding commune praise coin, which corresponds to the power of faith that he has grown on the path of the commune. ”

"I think...... These three things are actually the same thing. ”

The venue was silent for a moment, not because everyone was inspired again, but because everyone was confused. /5_5025/