796 Freedom is a battlefield that you will occupy if you don't capture the enemy
Li Qi almost choked on saliva, telling you to get out of here, not to call you for a roll!
Besides, are you an information-prone physique? Cats and dogs all in one?
"Not angry?"
Karin pressed her arms against Richie's shoulders, wagging her tail and shaking her ears, smiling flatteringly.
I've never seen her play like this before, and it's obvious that Cheyenne taught her.
Midnight had passed, and Xiao Qili had changed back into Li Qi, and even changed her clothes.
Considering the need to change forms, witches will change into witch weapons when they go out, and the function of changing clothes has been integrated into the new witch weapons. Li Qi is also using it, after all, he is also a witch.
"It's not a matter of being angry. ”
Li Qi sighed, "Honestly, Karin, do you really think that we are not free here?"
Karin stuck out her tongue, naturally embarrassed that the "sweet words" just now had been exposed.
She rolled her eyes and sighed: "Actually, I'm not qualified to say free, I was a princess since I was a child, and later became a queen, but I didn't feel any freedom." Later, I was captured by the Arcanist and used as a magic furnace, and I was left with the freedom not to eat people when my stomach was not too hungry. Later, I was saved by you and Sister Xiaohong, and I knew what freedom is. ”
Speaking of the past, Li Qi rubbed her hair angrily: "You ungrateful Erha ......"
This is Erha who has only eaten people, really.
"Yes, yes, I'm ungrateful," Karin's eyes narrowed with laughter, "but the point is two." ”
She continued: "Ideal freedom aside, everyone will think, it will never be possible." Freedom in reality, that's comparative. ”
"Compare us, Romrose, and Theresia, and to be honest, Theresia's side is freer. Don't be in a hurry to listen to me, in her place, you can drink alcohol, you can prostitute yourself, you can keep slaves, you can enjoy the ancestral elves, you can use power to oppress others, you can buy everything with gold bushels, including Hathaway's smile and even hugs, although the price is so high that it kills the whole family. ”
"Yes, that kind of freedom means that the vast majority of people are oppressed by great suffering, but what is the ideal of those who suffer, before the glory of cosmopolitan doctrine comes to Finn?
"Even if the people we have liberated have not grown up to be crimson believers, they will still have that idea and hope to live a human life. ”
Karin's head was buried in Richie's neck, her nose twitched, and her tone became intoxicated: "It's so fragrant, the tips of my teeth are itching again." ”
It's been a long time since I've fed her, but Richie has always been very suspicious that she, as a crimson druid, still retains the habit of sucking blood, whether it is really a physical need or a matter of taste. I haven't sucked it for her, and she doesn't want to live in pain.
He said solemnly: "Get down to business!"
"Oh, down to business......"
Karin sighed regretfully and continued, "I don't think the big devil is wrong about what he said about human nature. Mortals are a collection of contradictions, and selfishness is natural nature. ”
"Of course, I will not be tempted by such freedom, I have had the painful experience of being enslaved, and I know that there is still the path of Datongism, and I will definitely not pursue the freedom to enslave others. But if it's just a freedom related to me, even if I confirm that I won't honor it, and others want to restrict it, I won't be happy. ”
"So, Richie, you want me to be honest with that question, and my answer is clear. Yes, we are not free here. ”
Li Qi nodded slightly, Karin's answer did not make him angry, on the contrary, the practice of cosmopolitanism in two completely different worlds encountered the same problem, which made him distressed, but also made him more convinced that cosmopolitanism is indeed a universal truth even in the multiverse.
The problem is only in my own understanding, and I still lack a lot about my understanding of freedom.
He remembered what Xiaohong had said before, and it seemed that she was already ahead of him in this regard.
This will not work, it will lose the right of the cardinal to speak!
"I'm just talking about things, and I'm talking about universal human nature......"
Seeing that he was silent, Karin thought that she was disappointed in herself, and quickly explained: "If Datongism is to polish the souls of the people according to the mold we need, and use various means to transform them, so that they can put aside their selfish and selfish nature, how different is it from the prayers in the kingdom of God?"
She hugged Li Qi from behind, and at this time, the full touch made Li Qi a little uncomfortable, after all, she didn't have it now.
The Witch of Freedom leaned into his ear and whispered, "Do you know what the complete freedom I can imagine now?"
"It's to have a big empire, yes, I want to be an empress too? A queen who doesn't want to be an empress must not be a good man! Of course, it can also be an emperor, men and women can change. ”
"Every day there are new delicacies waiting for me to taste, every day there are new flavors of wine for me to get drunk, every day there is a new feeling of bed for me to sleep until I wake up naturally, and of course, the bed partner I hold also changes every day according to my heart. ”
"My royal husband is Li Qi, the queen is Da Qili, the concubine is Xiao Qili, Catherine, Retana, and Tina are all in my harem. It's okay for Sister Xiaohong to make a cameo...... Ahem, this is too arrogant when I didn't say it. And then Finny, Xiao Hongsu, or something are my little public acts, in short, I can hug whoever I want, kiss whoever I want, and pull the list if I want to be slept together......"
Li Qi wants to vomit blood, your dream is really full of perverted vulgar taste!
But what's the matter with such a strong resonance!?
Li Qi tried to suppress the urge to applaud and replace Karin, the protagonist of the dream of freedom, wasn't it the dream he once had, and now he occasionally revisits?
Karin is right when she says that even if Datongism is realized, the fundamental humanity will not change.
The worries that followed were subconsciously expressed by him: "So, is the path of Datongism wrong? Man is the sum of social relations, and pure freedom includes the freedom to objectify, oppress, and even enslave others, which is precisely the opposite of the road of Datongism." Isn't it necessary to give up this part of the freedom of cosmopolitan freedom?"
Another voice rang out: "Why do you have to force people to give up?"
Cheyenne...... Your speech is indeed full of evil spirits.
Li Qi looked at him with the eyes of the big devil, and the young Cheyenne Xia An fell from the air, and said with a sad face: "I didn't even see Xiao Qili's face clearly and locked her back, Li Qi, you are going to be the public enemy of our Wanmeng Society." ”
Li Qi rolled his eyes: "I see that you are not far from the fate of the Red Public Enemy, if you have any demagogic words, hurry up and finish it!"
After all, the enemy of the evil god is a joke, after all, Cheyenne is a member of the Crimson God Department, although it is funny, in Xiaohong's words, a piece of toilet paper is also useful, and it doesn't hurt to listen to what he says.
Xia An put away the ruffian appearance and said seriously: "Xiaohong and you have said before that Datongism is distributed according to needs, and everyone does his best, so that mortals can build a higher level of spiritual needs on the basis of social identity and self-realization after satisfying their survival needs. ”
"I agree with this very much, but Xiaohong and you have not yet made it clear how to deal with those personal desires, including those that belong to individuals only, as well as the desire to objectify, oppress and enslave others. The problem we are currently encountering is because there is no clear theoretical understanding of this part. ”
Li Qi frowned: "What other doubts are there about this? Isn't it coercion and guidance go hand in hand?"
Cheyenne shook her head: "So, this is a misunderstanding." Coercion and guidance means avoidance, it means not daring to deal with it head-on, which is why it attracts the attention of the devil. ”
Li Qi's brows furrowed even tighter: "What do you want to deal with head-on? What do you want to say? Do you still want to allow the people of Datongism to have the criminal freedom of the old era?"
Cheyenne smiled faintly: "Good and evil are moral judgments based on social relations, if social relations are broken down and many things belong to individuals, many evils are actually not evil." ”
"I remember Xiaohong saying in a lecture to us that after the productivity is more advanced, the family will not exist. This is not to say that the family does not exist, but that the family is no longer the most basic unit of society, taking on the social responsibilities of economic, social, and upbringing offspring, and that the various judgments based on the good and evil of the family will also die out. Men and women live together just because they want to be together, so it's so simple. ”
Karin raised her hand: "A man will never buy a woman's devotion with money or other means of social power in his life, and a woman in a cosmopolitan society will never commit to a man for any other reason than true love, or refuse to commit to the man she loves for fear of economic consequences!"
You can memorize it pretty well......
"Yes," said Rich, "that's why we have to give up the so-called freedom of the old days. ”
"But isn't that the reverse effect?"
Cheyenne spread his hands: "Even if such a thing can be done by law and coercion, it is not equivalent to the victory of Datongism, it is only a victory of power and violence, so it is destined to be unsustainable." Isn't it because there is a corresponding social foundation that such a realization is naturally achieved?"
Of course, I'm not saying that there is no need for laws and coercion, which are used to prevent social corruption, not to mold society into an ideal shape. After all, the law is only the bottom line, and what society looks like is shaped by the combined action of productive forces and production relations, morality, and other factors. ”
Li Qi took a breath, is this guy in front of him really Cheyenne?
He asked, "Then what exactly are you talking about a positive response?"
Cheyenne smiled confidently: "Mortal freedom is linked to needs, and after survival needs are satisfied, higher needs crave higher levels of freedom, including social identity and self-realization. There is not only the use of power and violence, that is, the objectification of others, the oppression and enslavement of others, but also the freedom of all-round development and making labor a scarce resource. ”
"We simply divide the two aspects of freedom into the bad and the good, and if we simply abandon the bad, then we will not be able to compete with other societies in freedom, especially Xiaohong and the golden bushel world that you mentioned will inevitably appear in the future. Because that is the embodiment of the foundation of human nature, if we abandon it, we will inevitably be smaller than the golden bushel world in the sum of freedom. ”
"I believe that if Datongism is to win, this part of freedom should also be included, so that the sum of our freedoms is greater than that of the Golden Bushel world, otherwise how can we say that Datongism is social progress? Yes, Datongism is bound to be freer than the Golden Bushel world!"
Sure enough, it's an evil god!
To be honest, what Xiaohong said just now, that's what he meant, Li Qi sighed: "Then the problem comes back again, this part of freedom is precisely what hinders the path of Datongism, and it contradicts the realization of the comprehensive and free development of mortals, how do you solve this contradiction?"
Cheyenne nodded and said, "I haven't figured it out in the past, but when I was thinking about how to push Moe's justice to all levels of society, I suddenly woke up to something." ”
"Those bad freedoms are bad because it is only through the old relations of production that mortals can attain corresponding freedom. ”
"For example, when it comes to prostitution, no one prostitutes, but most people actually want to solve their physiological needs. To be honest, it doesn't feel comfortable taking the bus, you have to overcome a lot of psychological barriers, and you have to take a lot of risks. ”
"Yes, well, there are, like those who indulge in carnal desires, or take this kind of thing as an achievement to kill as many people, that's a real pervert. In any society, there will be a very small number of anti-social elements, and **** is aimed at them. ”
Cheyenne really said something that only evil gods would say, which made the painting style of Datongism suddenly become evil: "I think that in the Datongist society, this kind of demand ...... I mean, normal physiological needs should be assigned. ”
The corners of Richie's mouth twitched, trying to suppress the urge to spray this guy's face.
I have to say that he has faintly touched Xia An's train of thought, which is indeed the direction he subconsciously ignored before.
Cheyenne hurriedly defended her remarks: "You have to admit that this is also a normal need of mortals, although it is not as basic as eating, drinking, and Lazar, but if it cannot be normally satisfied in this regard, it cannot be said to be happy in any way, right? ”
He continued: "But the need is complex, unlike eating alone. It has a private side, such as pure physiological needs, handjobs...... Ahem, Karin, don't laugh! But it's also social, real...... That's what makes people satisfied, if you can be with the person you love, that's ideal and perfect. ”
"The point is in sociality, the use of violence to enslave, the oppression of social status, and the objectification of money, which is the freedom that people have in this regard under backward relations of production. Because it is only through violence, social status, and money that such freedom can be had. ”
Cheyenne finally got to the point: "I was thinking that in a society of Datongism, mortals should be able to have this kind of freedom without going through those means, and it is more extensive than in the old society, if this is not the case, the superiority of Datongism will not be reflected." ”
Li Qi said disdainfully: "Every man sends a big beauty, and every woman sends a little fresh meat?
Cheyenne rolled her eyes: "Vulgar!"
He stretched out his arms and, like a holy preacher, said in a deep voice: "Of course, by the advanced productive forces, the means of oppressing and enslaving others, or the objectification of others by money, are transformed into means under the new relations of production." The essence of freedom is still there, but the means are no longer as evil as in the old days, and such freedom leads to an ideal and perfect form, which is the sublimation of freedom for mortals. ”
Karin kept blinking her eyes and listening carefully, and then pouted: "It's so empty, and it still hasn't changed? It's just a different way to make an appointment, and you can confidently say that it is a cannon that has nothing to do with power and money such as appearance and ability, and it is not morally condemnable, and it feels even more disgusting than going to prostitution." ”
Li Qi had to defend Cheyenne and said solemnly: "Karin, the premise of your thinking is wrong. Since physiological needs can be satisfied at any time, and the need for that kind of thing has been sublimated, the interaction between men and women will not just go for carnal desires, but must be a matter of integrating feelings and carnal desires. ”
At that time, the kind of person who just dates and runs away will definitely still exist, but in the eyes of everyone, this kind of person is also the same as the person who prostitutes for the sake of prostitution, he is a pervert, an antisocial personality, he will be spurned by most people, and no one thinks he has the ability. ”
Karin's eyes blinked faster, and the thief smiled and said, "That's what I think about someone, am I hopeless?"
That's right, you're really hopeless!
Li Qi ignored her and asked Xia An again: "This is indeed very empty, and physiological needs can also be distributed according to needs, how can this be done?
Cheyenne glanced at Karin, probably thinking that Karin had no taboos on this kind of topic, so she continued: "I think you should know better than me, both." ”
"Basic physiological needs, as long as the technology is enough, the inflatable doll will also become real, if not, there will be a virtual world. In short, sex is no longer entangled in various interests and social factors, and it should be natural for everyone to treat it, and using these means to solve physiological needs is not much different from buying fitness equipment. ”
"As for the sublimated sex, why are mortals so ...... in the old society? The thirst is because it has become a very special scarce resource under the distortion of power and violence. The cosmopolitan society uses new relations of production to cut off the evil ties, and returns the social attributes of sex to the purely emotional essence, so that it is no longer a scarce resource. ”
In the past, people were confined to a narrow social circle because of race, culture, social status and money, and because the family was also distorted, love, sex and family were also closely related, so the scope of love and mate selection was very narrow, and the lower the bottom, the narrower. ”
"In the Datongist society, people are pursuing all-round development and self-realization, and their interactions with each other are no longer divided into countless circles that do not interact with each other like in the old society, even if it is an ordinary man, the number of women who can be deeply known can be countless times higher than that of the old society, and the chances of finding someone to love will not be so desperate. ”
"At that time, people can obtain true love through normal interactions, enjoy ideal and perfect sex, and pure physiological needs can be easily realized through technical means, so why pursue them through other abnormal means?"
Karin shrugged: "It's too idealistic, even if everyone will be genetically adjusted in the future...... Oh, let's just use magic directly, and we will still distinguish between beauty and ugliness. Even if everyone can develop in an all-round way, there is still a distinction between good and mediocre. Beautiful women and excellent men are still scarce resources, and dead fat boys can't worry about it. ”
Li Qi tried not to spray her, and listened to what Cheyenne had to say.
Cheyenne sighed: "If everyone's dreams can come true at any time, the world is not far from the end, and at that time, no one will have any more pursuits." ”
"Cosmopolitan is not unearned, on the contrary, labor is the foundation of cosmopolitanism. In a cosmopolitan society, those who do not work are like the poor in the world of golden bushels, and no one can afford to look down on them. ”
"As long as labor can achieve all-round development, as long as labor competition, as long as competition is fair, the society will be full of hope, as for the dead fat house......
Xia An smiled: "Isn't there still a wife who loves Ciyuan to lick it? At that time, those wives will not only love Ciyuan, but also live flesh and blood, maybe the dead fat house will not look down on real people at all." ”
I knew it......
Li Qi sneered: "Finally exposed your evil nature, right? You want to use the abandoned house culture to erode the spiritual civilization of Datongism and realize your conspiracy to sprout the world!"
"Actually, I'm also reviewing this," Cheyenne actually became serious about this: "Isn't our literary and artistic commune organized by me? I'm thinking about how to embody the advanced productive forces in culture and the superiority of Datongism, and the revolutionary optimism represented by Meng is only one aspect, and in order to defeat other societies and defeat the devil in the field of 'freedom', not only do I have to work harder, but I also lack many branch roads." ”
Richie's eyes lit up and he overcame ......
It dawned on him that yes, this is a war! If you only think about the use of law and coercion, and only think about giving up your bad freedom, you are throwing the battlefield to the enemy.
Of course, a considerable part of Cheyenne's remarks came from this guy's selfishness, but he felt that the freedom of Datongism should be freer than that of the old society, and that the backward production relations organized by violence, social status and money should be stripped of the bad freedoms of the old society, so that those freedoms could return to their essence and be represented under Datongism.
Li Qi sincerely said to Cheyenne: "I understand a lot, thank you." ”
I didn't forget to warn: "Don't think about turning the whole Gamma City into a city of pain!"
Karin was stunned: "Ah, you were also persuaded by him?"
He smiled again: "It's not bad, does that mean that we can be happy runners?"
She twisted her body and pretended to be shy: "You see that between us, it can be regarded as a friend of life and death, can that kind of thing be as natural as drinking cold and white?"
Li Qiyi sternly refuted: "You are making the mistake of boiling water! Don't compare Datongism with indulgence, on the contrary, because the combination of surname and love will no longer be interfered with by those factors of the old society, everyone will pay more attention to chastity and integrity, will be more single-minded, and social morality will only be better, instead of indulging in carnal desires!"
"Don't talk about running friends, it's just a frequent change of spouse, which is immoral and unreliable in everyone's eyes, and will be despised by everyone. In a cosmopolitan society, the power of contempt is not just a meme, it directly determines your wealth and social status, and determines whether you are poor or rich!"
Karin hung her head pitifully to listen to the training, and at the end she pursed her lips and squinted her eyes and muttered: "I don't know who raised a bunch of girls, the most ripe one was picked early, and the sheets were rolled all day long." The other one is waiting to be spoken, and the other few are not yet ripe, and they are also counting the days when they are ripe and ready to pick, is this single-mindedness?"
Li Qi's old face turned red, turned his head and coughed: "What I said is only the ideal situation, aren't we still in the initial stage ......of Datongism?
Karin sighed deeply: "Speaking of which, Sister Xiaohong is also on your list, right? Or has it already snapped, we don't actually know? In short, Li Qi, you, the cardinal of the Fei Communist Party, are at least the public enemy that hinders the realization of Datongism in the construction of spiritual civilization." ”
Karin, don't die——!
Li Qi was dumbfounded, there was a lightning flash and thunder in his heart, and he was about to react, when a dark golden thunder slashed down, hitting Karin, causing her whole person to vibrate violently at a frequency of hundreds of times per second.
The lightning dissipated, and Karin rolled her eyes, spitting out green smoke, and fell to the ground like a stake. Dog Tail ...... No, the wolf's tail stood straight on his buttocks, and his black and white hair bloomed like an exploding head, posing as if he had been killed by a black and white cactus**......
"If you don't die, you won't die, Karin, why don't you understand?"
A slender figure floated down, it was Sunny Xiaohong, who had black hair and a red dress, and she actually eavesdropped on the clouds!