"We have close to 100,000 Shadow City immigrants, more than 10,000 criminals, close to 100,000 adventurers. ”

During the War of the Dead, Xiaohong presided over affairs and still knew a lot about the relevant data.

"Most of the immigrants and criminals are civilians, and most of the adventurers are transcendentals, which makes the demographic composition of our base areas very dualistic. Fake Xiaohong can be publicly owned...... Or the topic of co-ownership can lead to contradictions between the two sides, because there is naturally a sharp opposition to this structure. ”

"The public ownership system we implemented before only covered us Fei Gong himself, as well as the first group of slave citizens in Beta City, who provided services to adventurers according to the setting of the adventurer's game mode, and it was running quite well. Now it's time to expand out and cover all the adventurers, are the preparations really done?"

Xiaohong mentioned the question that the two had avoided in their previous discussions: "For example, the market, should our public ownership be abolished? If not, then the public ownership we are engaged in is not the same thing as a certain characteristic? If it is abolished, Li Qi, you have not said it, it is an unimaginable thing." The planned economy and rationing can make do with it in wartime, but they can cause very serious problems in construction times. ”

"Finn's level of productivity is very high, and maybe we can solve a lot of the side effects of the planned economy and rationing. However, you also said that the most critical role of the market system is to find demand on its own, meet demand, allocate resources, and promote economic development, which cannot be achieved by rationing and planned economy. ”

"Big data can't save the planned economy, because it's difficult to predict and quantify people's needs, and can only play a backbone role in the country's lifeblood and important industries, and shouldn't and can't replace the market and control the entire economic form, which is your original ......"

"All in all, if we implement public ownership, not only will there be many theoretical and technical problems on our side that have not been solved, but it will also be difficult for adventurers to explain. ”

Xiaohong said about the practical difficulties: "Nominally, adventurers will inevitably confuse public ownership with divine property. In terms of interests, they will consider themselves to have suffered significant losses. After all, the consciousness and concept of adventurers are different, and the concept of the sanctity of private property is deeply rooted. When they know that the land, space and wealth here no longer have their share, and that their efforts are only temporary treatment, I don't think many people will pin their hopes for the future. ”

She asked forcefully: "We still owe 37 million gold bushels to the adventurers in the War of the Dead, and I don't even dare to think of engaging in a public-private partnership to erase this debt, and now you have paid attention to this?"

"Do we really have the capital to lose 100,000 adventurers, and even make them enemies?"

This is not over, she continued: "This is only an internal problem, an external problem, and the same confusion between public ownership and divine property. Theresia is indeed very tolerant of you, after all, you ...... Ahem, but she's a person who has a clear distinction between public and private. In her eyes, the implementation of this system is a measure of the Church to strengthen its power and directly rule the people, which is completely no different from the incense she just defeated, and even more brutal!"

"Even if we are in the camp of the good gods, and we are only nested in this remote and desolate place on the Godfall Plateau, she can tolerate us. But can she allow us to continue to go as deep into the course of history as before? No, she has been on guard and on guard against us for a long time! Didn't Aurora say that during the War of the Dead, she repeatedly pinched us by the neck in official business, and even watched the fire from the other side! If we implemented public ownership in its entirety, she would only guard against and restrict us even more. ”

"Theresia is still like this, Hathaway's side, that is, the magicians will be more vigilant. Didn't you say that the dragons have also returned to the main plane? If we have public ownership, what will the dragons think of us? They will definitely regard us as evil heretics!"

"The dragon clan is a terrifying force, even if you can't completely win them over, don't push them into a hostile position. The dragons are the most money-greedy race and the most convinced of private ownership, and they have a very close relationship with the commercial church!"

"Judging from the external environment, the practice of public ownership will cause our revolutionary environment to deteriorate sharply, can we afford such losses?"

Aurora and the other witches nodded their heads at her with admiration and admiration, making her even more proud, and Litch could even guess that the guy's body and mind were filled with the comfort and pleasure of "finally having an all-round advantage in the verbal battle".

After thinking about it, Li Qi decided to change his strategy, and instead of coming forward to fight her first, he turned to Catherine: "Do you have something to say?

Fini, Tina, and other witches subconsciously leaned in the direction away from Catherine, obviously very jealous of Catherine's parrot.

Without hesitation, Catherine summoned the parrot, which shook its wings and shook the colorful crown on its head, and its mouth was croaking and spraying.

"On the Godfall Plateau, there are not only immigrants and adventurers, but also legions~"

"War of the Dead, War of Valentine, our legion is not only grown, but also very strong~"

"There are immigrants and adventurers among the officers and soldiers of the legion, but they are already one~"

"They have great power, they shed blood and sacrifice, they are looking forward to a better order~"

"If the order of the old world is maintained, they will be disappointed, they want to see a more ambitious goal, they want to see that we are changing, we are indeed moving towards a better future~"

"We, the Fei Gong Legion, are first and foremost here to destroy the existence of the old world~"

"The new world can only be built on the ruins of the old world, isn't it, if the legion still does to defend the old world, they will eventually deteriorate~"

"The legion supports public ownership and supports the creation of a new world, and we can't let them down~"

"Okay, I'll just say that I didn't bring any melon seeds for these things that I didn't eat~quack~"

The last half of the sentence was of course said to the parrot, and the parrot croaked in disappointment, and Xiaohong quickly took out a handful of melon seeds and handed them to it, which calmed down.

"This ......"

Catherine was very popular in the legion, and the officers and soldiers liked to talk to her, and her speech obviously represented the voice of most officers and soldiers, so that Xiaohong was considering her rhetoric and making her rebuttal less sharp.

In the end, she said earnestly: "Soldiers take obedience to orders as their duty, and they should not have their own political demands......

"That's not right," Li Qi grasped this point and cut in: "Our army is a revolutionary army, a soldier of the people. In addition to obeying orders, it is all the more necessary to uphold the true revolutionary character and persist in serving the people, which is a political demand. ”

"Without public ownership, there would be no people in a Datongist society, and how can military personnel talk about serving the people? If our base areas are still mixed with public ownership and private ownership, how can the regiment distinguish whether it is serving the people or serving the golden bushels? As a revolutionary guide and designer, it is really disappointing that you still say such things. ”

"I'm trying to be vigilant that I'm not as leftist as before, I don't have to call myself revolutionary, and I don't use a big hat to oppress people", Xiaohong was annoyed: "As a result, you used my routine instead!"

"Okay, you're going to use this big hat to solve the problem I just mentioned, and you're not going to fool around with the phrase 'this is a necessary price' that I like to use before, so who of us have become revolutionary spectacles?"

"Okay, I'll talk about practical issues", Li Qi gently persuaded, Aurora pursed her lips and smiled beside her, and finally there was the atmosphere of discussing things before.

"The core idea is that this is the price of necessity," Richie said, "don't worry, listen to me." ”

"I think so, isn't the course of history just past the period of the religious revolution, and then we should be faced with the period of the capitalist revolution, which means that capitalism will rise rapidly, will show amazing productive forces, and will become the most advanced relations of production in the world of Finn. ”

"In this magical world, it is difficult for us to imagine how productive capitalism will develop. ”

"The Magic Empire of the First Age was unimaginably advanced, and the Earth World couldn't keep up with it. At that time, the social form was probably not a completely capitalist society, and it was still mixed with the form of a slave society and a centralized feudal society, but it could allow the world of Fein to exert such a high level of productivity, and change to the capitalist society that we promoted, we can't predict how advanced and vigorous this capitalism will be, right?"

Xiaohong already understood a little at this time, and frowned: "You mean ......"

Li Qi struck while the iron was hot: "Yes, you think, with the magician as the leader, the united dragon clan and the commercial church, their force represents the advanced productive forces, and the capitalist society of private ownership is thriving, so what should we do?"

"We still maintain a dual-track system of public ownership and private ownership, which can not fully reach the height of productivity that a private ownership society should have, and public ownership is eroded by private capital in the system, and cannot give full play to the advantages of public ownership, which is an inevitable problem in any dual-track society. Now that there is a black market in and around Beta, and the ban continues, it is enough to say that the problem is enough. ”

"At that time, we will be lagging behind our enemies, and how will we maintain the belief that we will win, and how will we continue to develop?"

"More importantly, if we turn to public ownership at that time, we will not only face a stronger external enemy, but we will also have greater internal resistance, right? At that time, I am afraid that it will not be as simple as losing 100,000 adventurers, but a huge challenge that may determine the survival of our Fei Gong, and maybe we may really have to go on a long march. ”

"Yes, to put it simply, the later public ownership is introduced, the greater the price we pay. ”

"The internal and external problems you mentioned definitely exist, but we can overcome them one by one. It is only a question of how much it will cost to overcome now, and it will be a question of whether it can be overcome in the future. ”

Xiaohong pondered for a moment, and her brows gradually relaxed: "Actually...... In fact, I have always advocated the implementation of public ownership as soon as possible, otherwise we would not be following the road of cosmopolitanism at all. ”

"And after the implementation of public ownership, we can begin to explore the real path of Fein's characteristic Datongism, such as whether the market and market economy should exist, and whether there are more advanced models. ”

"We must strive to remain advanced, not by transplanting the science and technology of the earth world, nor only by relying on scientific methodology to transform magic and magic, but most importantly, by relying on more advanced production relations and social systems, so that the productive forces will have a stronger driving force for development than the capitalist society on the basis of private ownership, and there will be no endless upper limit to development. ”

Li Qi also understands Xiaohong's thoughts, and she is indeed obsessed with using public ownership to lay the foundation for the development of a Datongist society as soon as possible. However, this time, she committed two crimes in succession, and there was a serious accident in which her body was usurped by the heart of the gods, which made her lose her self-confidence, become timid, and dare not insist on her own opinions.

Now it seems that she has been convinced, and the two have the same opinion, Li Qi is very happy, and then said: "As for the specific problems, we will analyze them in detail, and only talk about internal problems." ”

"For example, the market and the market economy, I think that the market must not be canceled, just as the currency cannot be canceled. After all, mortals always have differences, and exchange must exist, and money is only used to quantify the labor value of exchange. But the exchange of cosmopolitanism, that is, the market, is certainly not aimed at the realization of profits, it is a capitalist thing. ”

"So, in a cosmopolitan society, there is a market and money, but there is no profit and capital, that is, there is no market economy. All economic relations are the direct interaction between people and society as a whole, not between people for profit, or between isolated economies divided by capital. ”

"Once we have figured out this theoretical foundation, we can explore a clear path step by step when we start to investigate and implement it technically. ”

"More importantly, the Datongist society is not built in a day, we are based on the initial stage, and there can still be a market economy at the beginning, but it is ...... by the state No, it's up to the government that we are in charge of. Like the game mode, make small adjustments and improvements step by step, just like now we want to engage in public ownership, which can be upgraded as an expansion piece, and it is called the Adventurer Game 2.0 of the Fallen Plateau. ”

Xiaohong's mouth was full of slurp, and she stared at Li Qi with impressive eyes: "Have you been holding Marxism-Leninism to make up for a lesson during this time? ”

Li Qi sighed: "A certain guide and designer has no theoretical foundation, so I have to be checked by me, the chief executive, how can I do it if I don't make up the class seriously?"

Xiaohong stopped, clenched her fists and said angrily: "I...... I'm not going to lose to you!

She shook her head regretfully: "How can this base area controlled by our Fei Gong still use it directly according to the geographical name, and it is so verbose, you are embarrassed to use it, you can give the entire base area a new name!"

"It's called...... We can still build it as a game mode, and it used to be a closed first test, and the version was 0.01. Now start the closed second test, the version is 0.02!"

Look at this version number, you know that in your previous life, this guy was a chicken thief coder who would never come up with the official version of 1.0!

Finney raised her hand: "I like it!"

"Red Alliance, Legion", Catherine nodded slowly, obviously pleased with the name as well.

The other witches agreed, saying that this was the name of the base, not the team name of the corresponding church. Before, it was either called Godfall Plateau or Beta City, and it was always difficult to call this force of its own, but now it finally has an official name.

Li Qixin said that you are directly moving the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics to use!

"Red Alliance! Red Alliance!"

The Silk Witches begin to act as cheerleaders to create an atmosphere, and the dispute between Xiaohong and Li Qi seems to be over here.

"Wait, the actual problem hasn't been solved yet!"

Aurora spoke, looking very dissatisfied: "In other words, do we still have to deal with violent turmoil?"

She asked very seriously, "Are you really going to lose 100,000 adventurers?"

"Uh...... Of course not", Little Red scratched her head.

Li Qi hurriedly explained: "This is just an exaggeration, and the reality should not be." Of the 100,000 adventurers, at least 20,000 have been integrated into the legion, city, and scientific research system. The remaining 80,000, most of them are still low-level adventurers, and public ownership will make their lives better than they are now, give them more room for development, and will stabilize them. ”

He smiled again: "As for the debts of the War of the Dead, don't worry, you won't owe them." In this Valentine War, I scraped enough gold bushels and supplies from the hands of Little Dragon Girl, Zold, and Theresia, and the total value has exceeded 40 million, which can completely fill this big hole. ”

"That's not bad", Aurora breathed a sigh of relief, but was still not satisfied: "In other words, we still have to be prepared to lose high-level adventurers, is such a price really necessary?"

Xiaohong and Li Qi said in unison: "This is necessary......"

Aurora slapped the coffee table: "Although the truth is right, I always feel that your ideas are very wrong!"

Yo, Aurora actually said that the guide, the designer, and the cardinal are not right!?

Xiaohong and Li Qi subconsciously wanted to laugh, but when they looked at each other, they felt awe-inspiring, they almost made an arrogant mistake just now, and treated Aurora as an ignorant native.

Xiaohong scratched her head: "Uh, Aurora, you say be careful." ”

Li Qi lowered his head and coughed: "What's wrong?"

Aurora was also shrinking her neck, and when she said it, she felt that she was too shallow, and actually questioned them. It can be seen that the attitude of the two of them has also come up.

"It's those high-level adventurers who really determine the overall attitude of the group of adventurers!"

Xiaohongqiao's family, Li Qi went on the expedition, and it was Aurora who presided over the work at home, and the actual situation was much clearer than the two of them: "These high-level adventurers are the weather vane, even they can't stabilize it, do you still expect to stabilize other adventurers?"

"Our current problems are not only internal, but also external, we are facing the infiltration and erosion of many enemies! Before coming up for the meeting, I also received the news that a half-demon spy attacked the hospital, and one of our promising combat heroes was almost killed by the spy!"

"Magicians and minions of the Church of Commerce have been active in Beta City a lot during this time, they are headhunting everywhere, poaching our technical talents, targeting those high-level adventurers, but others are not spared, and even second- and third-level magicians have not escaped their big net. ”

"Some promise manors and titles, some promise how many gold bushels and slaves, and even some promise magic towers, what kind of attractive treatment is this for high-level adventurers?"

"Up to now, it is estimated that at least a thousand low-level adventurers who have mastered our advanced technology have been poached, but high-level adventurers are basically stable. Aside from the fact that we are working hard, and the top management and the legion are very stable, so that they do not dare to take risks and run away, isn't the main reason that they believe or expect us to come up with enough to stabilize their interests?"

"You don't have to exceed the conditions given by the headhunter, as long as it's too much, the high-level adventurers who stay with us are willing to stay. It is okay to promote public ownership, but it is necessary to let them see a broader space for development, especially the superior conditions that can support their continued upgrading. ”

"Now it feels like your attention is completely focused on the bottom and ignoring these people. In fact, these people are easy to satisfy, they are all former marginal elements and broken households, otherwise they would not have gone to this place of the Divine Fall Plateau to develop. Just like the dilapidated aristocrats I knew before, as long as they were given enough room to develop and made them feel stable, they would be satisfied. ”

Aurora's words made Xiaohong and Li Qi fall into deep thought, but Catherine disagreed: "Greed, profit, not enough, revolution, stay, woe." ”

Aurora retorted: "They are greedy, but they have power, as long as they are kept, why can't they be reformed and let them have revolutionary consciousness?"

"Why should we look at them differently? Are the immigrants from the Storm Islands not only greedy, but also lazy and passive, fundamentally different from these people in terms of human nature and morality? Why should we spend all our energy on them, even at the cost of picking up dung, to transform them, and we have to throw away these people who have mastered extraordinary powers?"

Xiaohong reluctantly explained: "But they ...... The treatment pursued by one person can satisfy a hundred or even a thousand civilians. The transcendents who have grown up as civilians are more determined, and we are still in the early stages of the revolution, and the conditions are not enough, so there must be a trade-off. ”

Aurora replied angrily: "We have more than five hundred hero-level professionals now, compared to the power they exert, the treatment they ask for is nothing at all, right?"

"Okay, those people aren't members of the Fig, but why can't we give them a bigger value than they would elsewhere, and instead ask for more treatment for them?"

"Goddess...... Xiaohong, and Li Qi, haven't you repeatedly emphasized that the production relations of the Datongist public ownership system will certainly be able to bring into play a stronger productive force than the existing production relations and even the production relations of the capitalist society in the future? Then let those high-level professionals give full play to it! Isn't this the best example of proving that we are more advanced and superior? When they see and experience such advanced and superior productive forces, are they still willing to leave?"

Aurora's words made Xiaohong and Li Qi's hearts ripple a little, well said!

Li Qi sighed: "This seems to be a bit difficult, after all, the standard is difficult to determine." ”

Aurora patted her thigh with hatred: "What standard do you need? What other people can't do, we have done it, doesn't it prove that we are more advanced and superior?"

"Do you know why many high-level professionals, especially magicians, are still tempted by the temptation of headhunting? They are also looking forward to seeing something greater and more exciting!"

"I see!"

Xiaohong also slapped her thigh: "Wonder!"

She clenched her fists and said excitedly, "We're going to beat the spectacle!"

Lucky is dumbfounded, hey, is it finally back to spectacle!?

Of course this is just a joke, this spectacle is different from that spectacle.

Thinking about the "sphere of influence" that Theresia had demarcated for him, and what was happening there, coupled with the Fortress of Tegger, Richie's heart moved.

His eyes lit up with excitement: "I know what spectacle we should make......"