243 Xiaohong's class, distribution according to need, human nature and positive incentives

Little Red Riding Hood's words made Li Qi both surprised and delighted, so even if he was full of thoughts about changing his big star girlfriend every day without the same thing, he could welcome the arrival of Datongism?

Well, it's just that part of his personality that belongs to the Earth world......

"All the arguments that associate morality, ideological consciousness, and temperance with cosmopolitanism are just under the guise of cosmopolitanism to cover up their own obscene deeds of stealing chickens and dogs!"

"What's the problem? It's that you don't really understand what 'great material abundance' and 'distribution according to need' means. ”

Little Red Riding Hood flipped to a certain page of the hard book, noticed Li Qi's gaze, and coughed: "It's definitely not me who is speculating and selling, what I am talking about now and what I will say later, are already things that I fully understand, but considering that your foundation is too poor, you need to explain step by step." ”

"Yes, yes, I'll listen to you", Li Qi couldn't care about arguing with her, he was itching like a cat on this question.

"What does it mean to have great material abundance? It means that there is no scarcity, that it is available everywhere, that it is readily available. On this basis, there is on-demand allocation. ”

"What does distribution according to need mean? It doesn't require you to have the corresponding ideological consciousness and realize that how much you need is reasonable, and then how much material you want. The idea is that you don't need to think about possession, you don't have to possess more than you need. ”

"To give you a simple example, air, like food and water, is a substance necessary for human survival. Air is everywhere and everywhere, so air is a very rich substance. ”

"Would you go and possess more air than you need? Would you pile up a bunch of liquefied air cylinders at home and feel like you're richer than everybody else, you're superior to everybody else? That just makes people look at you like idiots, right?"

Yes!

It dawned on Li Qi that this means that matter is extremely rich, to the extent that it is like air. In the past, the concept of distribution according to demand was wrongly understood as a conscious behavior, but in the real Datongist society, distribution according to demand is an unconscious state of nature, which is integrated with "use", and does not need the intervention of such factors as morality and ideological consciousness.

Li Qi felt that if the main point of "allocation" was ignored, it would be more appropriate to replace "allocation on demand" with "use on demand", and it would be less likely to be misunderstood.

From a historical point of view, the argument that what kind of moral level must be necessary before what kind of society can be built is also logically wrong. It has always been the development of productive forces, the progress of production relations, and the corresponding adjustment of the moral level of society. ”

Therefore, it is absurd to regard the level of morality as a prerequisite for the realization of Datongism! To propagate this kind of argument is to either throw the pot at the people, or not to the people of every session. Either they are paralyzing the people and making them think that Datongism must have fallen from the sky, so they have to wait all the time. ”

Little Red Riding Hood said excitedly, and stood on the sofa again, waving his hands, Li Qi coughed and said, "Your divine will is suspected of crossing the world, be careful of that ...... You know. ”

Little Red Riding Hood snorted disdainfully and helplessly, stopping what was needed beyond what the world needed.

"In short, the construction of Datongism has nothing to do with the ideological consciousness of the people, even with the medieval moral level of Finn's mortals, as long as he turns over and becomes the master, he can build Datongism. ”

Little Red Riding Hood's assertion, Li Qi still has a different opinion: "But I think ideological consciousness will still affect Datongism, as a leader, we must believe in Datongism condensed in the "Red Book" in order to gain extraordinary power, so faith can remain pure, we can serve the people wholeheartedly, and sacrifice for Datongism." Ordinary people are not so noble, they are still dominated by selfish human nature, and their greed for material things is difficult to restrain themselves. ”

"Indeed, we can be greatly enriched in the basic material things of life. In addition to continuing to promote the development of productive forces and constantly turning scarce substances into non-scarce ones, shouldn't we still raise their ideological consciousness and let them restrain their desires?

"This is another misconception of Datongism!"

Little Red Riding Hood began to evolve into a broadcasting voice: "This stems from your misconception of human nature, human nature is good and evil, human nature is selfish, and this expression does not apply to the category of production relations. Since we are talking about the relations of production, we have to look at human nature from this level. ”

"What is human nature at this level? It is not good and evil, nor is it selfishness, but the pursuit of good and avoid harm!"

"Restraining greed will yield greater good, and the person will definitely refrain from it. If not only is there no benefit, but he is punished, he will be even more greedy. Bad money drives out good money, and it is also valid to use it in human nature. This is determined by the social environment and the relations of production. ”

Li Qi raised his hand: "Since greed has already benefited, what other benefits can be gained? This seems a bit ......"

Little Red Riding Hood seemed to be waiting for him here, and he smiled: "So, things are going back to the scarce substance you just mentioned." ”

"Maslow's hierarchy of needs, although there are many criticisms, no one has yet put forward a more authoritative and complete theory, and it is okay to use it in the discussion of cosmopolitanism, right?"

Li Qi nodded again and again, there is no substitute for this theory.

"Let's simplify it a little bit more and compress Maslow's five levels into three, physiological and safety needs as survival needs, emotional and respectful needs as group needs, and finally self-actualization needs. ”

Little Red Riding Hood talked eloquently, and in Li Qi's mind, she was really as tall as a mentor at this moment.

"It's interesting to relate these three levels of needs to matter. What are the materials related to the needs of survival? In the society of cosmopolitanism, there must be non-scarce materials. The scarcity of material is related to a person's group needs and self-realization needs. ”

"In a cosmopolitan society, what people's group needs and self-realization needs look like, we must first understand this before we can determine what kind of scarce material is. ”

Little Red Riding Hood changed his words: "Before discussing this, let's take a look at the situation in capitalist society. ”

"In a capitalist society, even material things that are related to the need for survival are scarce. And what are the substances that relate to the needs of the group and self-realization?"

"Fine food, luxurious accommodations, luxuries, and all things that make a distinction between the high and the low, right?"

Quite simply, when people's survival needs are met, they pursue the needs of the group. What are the specific manifestations of group needs? In the positive direction, it is the pursuit of recognition, respect, and even support, and in the negative direction, it means comparison, competition, showing a sense of superiority, and even oppressing others. ”

"In a capitalist society, everything can be exchanged through money, and the scarce material to which the needs of the group are dependent must be quantified by money, whether it is recognition or comparison, it will be dependent on money. As I just said, human nature is to seek advantages and avoid disadvantages, and everything looks at money, and it is absurd to condemn human nature under capitalism with these words, because this is the normal state of human nature. Only by chasing money will your survival needs and group needs be satisfied. If you do it, you will be punished, and you will not be able to meet even the basic needs of survival. ”

"At a deeper level, capitalist society is an exploitative society, a society that oppresses the people with capital, which makes the whole society dominated by negative stimuli. People chase money in order to satisfy their own high-level needs, and the direction is inevitably negative stimuli such as comparison, competition, and oppression, and everything in capitalist society is marked by money as a hierarchy, and this is how it came about. ”

"Richie, are you working hard in the earth world, and ask yourself if it's because more money allows you to meet more needs and is inspired, or is it because you feel that your needs are not being met, and you feel frustrated and frightened? Yes, it's both, but which one is dominant?"

Li Qi sighed deeply, and this still needs to be said, What is the meaning of social education? Thinking of the "society" thing, I think of the nine-tailed whip of the Lady of Pain.

In addition, negative stimulation ......

"Why do you say that, I think of the kind of online game that you can't be powerful without recharging? The core mode of that game is negative stimulation. You went out wearing 3,000 yuan of equipment, and you were seconds by the big guy player wearing 30,000 yuan, so you charged 300,000 yuan and went to kill it back. Eventually, the game became a large number of sling players playing with a small group of local tyrants. ”

"It's good to know how to draw inferences", Little Red Riding Hood praised: "You first save this idea in the process, and then we will move on to the Datongist society." ”

"In a cosmopolitan society, the material needs for survival become non-scarce, and people only need to meet the last two needs. ”

"At the same time, if we ban private capital and eliminate exploitation and oppression, then the competition that depends on money in capitalist society will lose its meaning. ”

"Whether in a capitalist society or a cosmopolitan society, human nature remains the same. After the needs of survival have been satisfied, man will seek to meet the higher needs. So think about it, what kind of material is used to satisfy the needs of the group and self-realization at this time, why is it scarce, and is the specific manifestation of the higher needs a positive stimulus or a negative stimulus?"

Little Red Riding Hood's question made Richie a little distressed, and it was already hard for his mind to keep up with it.

Seeing his straight eyes, Little Red Riding Hood rolled his eyes and lowered the difficulty: "You can substitute for the earth world and think about it, if you have no worries about food and clothing, and have a spacious house, okay, then give your wife and children, and the third son Dengke, what will you do?"

"I'll ......"

Li Qi's heart suddenly warmed up: "I will study aircraft design, purely for interest, I cried secretly when I didn't score enough in the college entrance examination for Beihang Airlines." I'm also going to build models of space battleships, make sci-fi games, anyway...... Billions of stars, billions of lights!"

"Yo ......"

Little Red Riding Hood was a little surprised: "My journey is the sea of stars...... I really didn't expect that a child of your age would be so fascinated by Willy Yang. ”

"My dad's book was read when I was very young", Li Qi scratched his head embarrassedly, and then was stunned: "My age child......? Gui Geng?"

Little Red Riding Hood blushed and shouted, "You are allowed to read your father's books, but I am not allowed to read my father's books!"

"Back to business!"

Little Red Riding Hood grimaced: "What you just said is interest, hobbies, right?

Li Qi nodded: "Of course, if you like knitting sweaters, and then knit a sweater for your boyfriend that is particularly beautiful, and you can't buy it on the market, which can be called a work of art, you should understand what it was like when I spent an hour a day, a month in a row, and finally put together a 2,000 to 1 model of the Executor Super Star Destroyer." ”

"I don't have a male ......"

Little Red Riding Hood gritted her teeth and said, "Except for that part, you are right! Then, if you dare to snoop and talk again, don't blame me for carving a curse in your soul!"

Li Qi quickly pleaded guilty, and Little Red Riding Hood returned to the topic: "If your interests and hobbies can not only realize yourself, but also contribute to society and be recognized by others, how do you feel?"

Li Qi sighed with emotion: "This is the ultimate happiness, what could be more wonderful than this?"

Then he realized, "You mean ......"

"Did you think of that?"

Little Red Riding Hood said: "Let me first state that Maslow's hierarchy of needs theory is the most criticized thing about his belief that the hierarchy of human needs is ascending. The example we just talked about shows that the hierarchy of requirements is not strictly progressive. Group needs and self-realization sometimes go hand in hand, sometimes through self-actualization, and then group identity, and in reverse. ”

"In a cosmopolitan society, the level of human needs has changed, and since the needs of survival have been satisfied, then they are as negligible as air. For people, a higher level of need has become the most basic need, and what is it? ”

"At that time, people, at least most people, will not focus on hobbies that make you extremely pleasurable? After that, will you integrate into the group related to the hobbies and seek the recognition and respect of the group? and then go one step further and push the group and yourself to gain the recognition and respect of everyone?"

Li Qi also had a feeling: "Yes, in the earth world, many things, before capital intervened, are the same as the situation you said. Forums, online articles, open source software, and public welfare undertakings, at first, everyone did not ask for monetary returns, but won everyone's attention and respect. When the capital came in, everything changed. ”

Little Red Riding Hood said with relief: "Well said, this also shows that the scale and half of Datongism have actually appeared around us a long time ago." ”

She picked up the topic of the game just now: "If Datongism is also compared to online games, it is first and foremost to ensure fairness, and no one will fail to compete and not even guarantee basic survival." The second is to satisfy people's group needs and self-realization through positive stimuli, rather than forcing people to move forward with punishments that threaten even their survival needs. ”

"In line with the human nature of seeking advantages and avoiding disadvantages, in a capitalist society, how many people are desperate for money, in a cosmopolitan society, there will be many people who are desperate for self-realization and group recognition. Which is more effective, positive or negative? Which is more efficient, doing things for hobbies or simply doing things for making money? ”

Therefore, some people say that in a Datongist society, people with low ideological consciousness will become social moths, which is also ridiculous. ”

Li Qi raised his hand again: "It's good, but it feels a bit idealistic, about scarce substances......"

"That's right, scarce substance, I was about to say this. ”

Little Red Riding Hood seemed to be really well prepared, and was not stumped by Li Qi at all: "Scarce substance is labor." ”

She smiled and said, "Do you know why labor is the first need of people in the Datongist society? ”