Chapter 663: It's not easy for the military industry to make money

Merit is rewarded, this is also the reason why Duke was able to convince the various research institutions under his command, seeing that Qi Haiyang and Xiao Fang were so happy, Duke casually asked about the cost of this super flight simulator.

"The background host of this system is a cluster of more than 200 super small machines, about a little more than 100 million," Qi Haiyang replied, "This is still the use of our country's own production of G2 small machines, if the cost of imported similar small machines will be more than doubled, and the cost of each flight simulator cockpit is about more than 20 million, so that more than a dozen models are fully equipped with more than 300 million yuan." ”

"RMB or USD?" Rao is Dong Feng is now a billionaire, and he was shocked when he heard this number, this big toy is really expensive enough, if it is denominated in dollars, it is really enough to buy a set.

"Of course it's the yuan, if it's the dollar, the Air Force probably won't be able to afford it." Qi Haiyang said with a smile.

"More than a dozen models of simulation training can be carried out at the same time, right?" For dollars or RMB, Duke doesn't have any feelings, this thing seems to be more than hundreds of millions of yuan, but compared to a real fighter, the cost performance is still very outstanding, not to mention that the J-20 alone now costs more than 100 million US dollars, and the price of more than a dozen different types of real aircraft adds up to far more than this simulator, even if this flight simulator is more than 300 million US dollars, so Duke feels that it is worth it.

You must know that this system can train more than a dozen pilots at the same time, even if it runs in three shifts for 15 hours a day, this system will be able to give pilots more than 50,000 hours of flight volume in a year, and based on the calculation that our military pilots fly 150 hours a year, a system can at least enable more than 360 pilots to have qualified flight volume a year, and even if it is calculated according to the high standard of 250 hours of flight volume for US military pilots per year, it can also train more than 200 pilots.

This is an astonishing statistic, to know how much fuel and aircraft maintenance costs have to be saved by so many pilots practicing with real airplanes in a year, and the cost of a fighter like the US F-22 is as high as 50,000 US dollars per flight hour, and if you can replace half of the training volume with this flight simulator, then you can save more than 1 billion US dollars in a year! Not to mention that there is no risk of a crash yet.

So in this way, Duke feels that even $300 million is worth a thousand dollars. Of course, no matter how realistic this kind of flight simulator is, it can't completely replace real flight, but for the regular training of those junior pilots, Dong Feng's encounter just now shows that it can be completely replaced, at least this is the best means to be familiar with real flight.

"It's perfectly possible to train at the same time." Qi Haiyang replied, "Our small aircraft cluster simulation operation is very strong, now the software only supports the simulation of a single aircraft, in the future we will develop a confrontation simulation application, so that pilots can use this system to simulate air combat, this time we salvaged the F-22 and F-35, in the future, we will definitely get the simulation machine out before the real aircraft comes out, so we are not worried about the lack of suitable F-22 test pilots and experienced pilots with F-22 combat experience in the future." ”

"Can you still fight in the air?!" Dong Feng's eyes straightened when he heard this, "Duke, let's buy a set of this thing, it must be!" I can pay for it myself. Dong Feng knew that he basically didn't expect to participate in the real air battles in this life, and if he could enjoy this super realistic simulation system, it would be a great joy in his life, even if this set of things was so expensive, it was worth it.

Qi Haiyang and Xiao Fang listened to this Dong Zong like buying cabbage, and sighed in their hearts, this is a big guy with more than 300 million yuan, and it doesn't mean that it will be finished if you buy it back, such a big bunch of things, you have to build a training center of several thousand square meters, and it must be equipped with an independent high-power power supply and other supporting environments to operate. After it is put into operation, it is not finished, and at least tens of millions of maintenance service costs have to be paid every year.

It's good to be rich. For a moment, such an idea popped into Qi Haiyang's and Xiao Fang's minds at the same time.

"Mr. Dong wants to buy, of course we provide it at cost price" Qi Haiyang said with a smile, "In this system, many key software technologies are provided by DSM, among which Dean Du's artificial intelligence algorithm is the core of the core, but the delivery cycle of this thing is a bit long, even if the order is placed now, it will take half a year to deliver, of course, if the model requirements are not so complete, the progress will be faster, but the requirements for the construction of supporting facilities are also relatively high, we have made a preliminary estimate to establish a complete flight training center, It will cost about 500 million yuan. ”

"Even if the Air Force purchases, the price we provide will not be less than 800 million yuan, after all, we want to further develop, and the appropriate profit margin is still needed, if the state allows takeaway, our quotation will not be less than 300 million US dollars."

Hearing Qi Haiyang's offer, Dong Feng exhaled a breath, and then said a little exaggeratedly: "Your profit margin is too high, right?" Why don't we have such a high profit margin on our DSM products? ”

"Mr. Dong, this is really not high, you must know that this is export sales to have such a good profit." Qi Haiyang said with a wry smile, "And don't look at the profit of selling this thing in a single piece, but the sales volume can't go up, even if this kind of thing is allowed to be exported by the state, it is estimated that a few countries with good relations with our country will sell a few sets, and even if other countries want to buy it, we will not sell it to them." Compared to our R&D investment, this return on investment is average. Military products now mainly rely on our country itself to bear these research and development costs. ”

Dong Feng then remembered that this thing is not like consumer goods such as mobile phones, televisions, and cars, which can be sold casually, if it is only sold a few sets, it will be a sales transaction of more than 100 million US dollars, and this thing will be used for at least 10 years and 8 years.

It's like DSM has invested heavily in military products in the past two years, and now it has smashed 20 to 30 billion yuan, and has also researched a lot of good things, but it is useless. Now the sales revenue part has only reached a total of several billion yuan, most of which is obtained through the modification of the J-7, and a small part is obtained through the sale of drones such as Jingwei, Shadow and Pterodactyl. After the newly developed tank is finalized, it will have to wait for the production to be delivered to the military, and the DSM will be able to receive a share from the military uniform.

Needless to say, this latest 99S tank is too advanced, and it is naturally impossible to export it like UAVs, so Dong Feng doesn't have to expect to make much profit from this tank, even if the PLA is equipped with 1,000 vehicles, it will be completed in at least three or five years, and each tank DSM will be divided into 1 million, and all of them will be 1 billion, or RMB.

This is not bad, there are new products that were put into the year and there are new products coming out. However, in this way, DSM's financial statements are completely beyond their means, and this transaction is really not easy to do, if it does not open export channels, DSM will rely solely on orders from the domestic People's Liberation Army, and the loss will be certain.

Thinking of this, Dong Feng remembered that he was just going to spend 500 million yuan to buy a set of flying simulators, which seemed really inappropriate to be counted in the company's accounts. Although DSM is now in the development stage, and the shareholders have not asked for profits and break-even for the time being, it does not mean that DSM can always be maintained in this way.

The burden on his shoulders is really not light, now all the companies under SAL are making a lot of money, only the company he is responsible for is just seeing a big amount of money, Dong Feng originally thought that he would be able to reverse the situation after the products came out in a steady stream, but now I heard Qi Haiyang say this, it seems that it is not such a simple thing, it does not mean that you can sell if you want to, and you must have the approval of the higher authorities to sell in the selection of customers, so it is really not easy to expect DSM to make money.