"That's it!"

Kuzan regained his composure at Madara's words, and did not show any anger at being ignored.

"I understand your doubts. I spared everyone except Spandain's gang, whether it was the navy, civilians, or scholars, and I didn't kill anyone. As a result, after I left, someone ordered the Navy to destroy O'Hara's refuge ship, and all the civilians were buried at the bottom of the sea. If it weren't for the fact that the scholars had left O'Hara, they wouldn't have escaped. The Demon Slayer Order was originally directed at them. Later, the world government put the black cauldron on my head, saying that I slaughtered everyone on O'Hara Island, and the title of the world's first demon was born! ”

Madara leaned back in his chair, looked at the silent Kuzan calmly, and continued: "You are not only a witness to the O'Hara incident, but also a high-ranking member of the Navy, and you know the truth of the matter very well, and then you are very confused and confused, and you can't understand why the world is like this!" All I can tell you is that you want the world to be what you want, but the world will not be as you want it to be, or even never will be as you want it to be! ”

"Isn't Madara able to do what he wants?" Kuzan asked.

"Not now."

"What about later?" Kuzan continued.

"Who knows!"

“……”

Kuzan was silent for a moment, then looked up at the blue sky, "Vice Admiral Karp later told me that when he met you, he wanted to recruit you into the navy, but failed. It can be seen that Lieutenant General Karp also thinks that there is more justice in you than evil! ”

"That's just because I'm better than him, if I were an ordinary person, the grass on the grave would be three feet tall now."

Madara said casually: "I told Karp back then, you have only met me once, and you have heard me sigh a little, how can you determine what kind of person I am?" Who can say what even I don't know about myself! ”

“……”

Kuzan took a sip of rum and stared at the verdant canopy without saying a word.

"At first I thought you were here to fight, then I thought you were here to find out the news, then I thought you were here to be a lobbyist, and only now do I understand that you are here to see a doctor."

Madara looked at the rum in his hand, which was about to bottom, and talked to Kuzan, wondering if he would drink a bottle for a while.

"Why do you say that?"

Kuzan, who was pondering, heard Madara's words, gathered his thoughts and looked at him suspiciously.

Madara still decided not to drink, and if he wanted to drink, he would wait for a while to get in the car and drink again, and said to Kuzan, "You can't figure out something yourself, and then come and ask me." Are you a psychiatrist who specializes in solving problems? ”

"Maybe!"

Kuzan was silent for a moment, and then said, "I do have a lot of things I don't understand. ”

"There are many things in this world that I can't figure out, and there are only two kinds of people who can figure out everything, and you are not either."

"What two kinds of people?"

Kuzan, who was about to drink, put down the bottle when he heard Madara's words.

"Fools and madmen!"

Madara finished drinking the last bit of rum from the bottle and casually placed the empty bottle on the bench.

When the cat fairy heard Madara's words, she turned her little head and looked at him in surprise.

Kuzan looked at Madara as usual, waiting for him to continue.

"A fool who doesn't want anything, you can say he understands everything, or you can say he doesn't understand anything. It's like gambling, the real winner is neither the dealer nor the gambler, but the person who doesn't gamble, and the fool is like the person who doesn't gamble to win. And the madman wants to figure out everything, and when he understands everything, then he goes crazy! ”

Kuzan didn't express his opinion after hearing Madara, he thought for a while, and suddenly asked, "Mr. Madara, you have the ability to see through people's hearts, right?" Or maybe it's that your domineering appearance has evolved! ”

Although it is a question, there is an affirmation in the words.

Madara, who was broken by Kuzan's words, was still light-hearted, and asked Kuzan rhetorically: "Do you think you can understand a person by reading minds?" ”

"Can't you?"

"Everyone is unique in this world, and you can't know a person perfectly, even if you can read minds. Because you can only know what he thinks now, but you can't know what he thinks in the future, and who can know what he doesn't know. ”

“……”

Kuzan was silent.

"I'm not a psychiatrist, but I remember what a psychiatrist said."

Madara changed his sitting position, his left hand on the left side of his face, leaning on the arm of the bench on his left, the sea breeze blowing a few strands of hair on his forehead, and a face as calm as water could not tell what he was thinking.

"What?"

"The kindest people in the world are some crazy people!"

Madara looked out at the sea in the distance, deep and quiet, as if he was just chatting with Kuzan, and it seemed that there was something else hidden.

Suffering has tormented some and destroyed others.

"What Madara means is that people go crazy because they can't accept the cruelty and darkness of this world."

Kuzan frowned slightly, he understood what Madara meant, but he didn't understand why Madara would say such a thing to him.

"Not all, the reasons why people will go crazy are not only these, fragile character, desperate heart, cruel world, external interference, impermanent fate, genetic inheritance and a series of factors can make people crazy, kindness is only part of it, kind people may go crazy, but people who can go crazy are not all kind people!"

Madara retracted his gaze from the distant sea, and continued with Kuzan, who was frowning and thinking: "What I want to say is that counting on individual kindness cannot change the world, whether it is one person, a hundred people, a thousand people or ten thousand people, it is still a drop in the bucket, and pinning all hopes on people's kindness is tantamount to an attic in the sky. It is not a fundamental solution, but only a temporary containment problem. If the problem does not arise today, the problem will not arise tomorrow, and the problem will definitely arise the day after tomorrow. ”

"Why do I say that this world is reincarnation, because there are problems since the beginning of people, the longer human beings exist, the more problems accumulate, small problems become big problems, big problems become unsolvable problems, just like a snowball, from a small snowball to an iceberg, to a point where ordinary people can't solve it at all! If you want to really solve the problem, you need to break the iceberg, break the old world, and reshape the new world! ”

"Mr. Madara wants to shape a new world?" Kuzan asked with a serious expression.

"I can't be a ruler! I can't be a savior! Madara said nonchalantly.

"Why?"

"Because violence can destroy an old world, but it cannot create a new one! And I, only violence! ”

“……”

Kuzan fell silent again, this time longer than before, until he drank the remaining rum from the bottle, put down the empty bottle, and then said, "I see! Thank you for your hospitality, Mr. Madara, I've got to go, goodbye! ”

"Goodbye!"

Madara nodded and said goodbye to Kuzan.

Kuzan didn't say anything more, got up and left the ice chair and walked towards his bike.

Kuzan, who was on his bicycle, did not leave the island of justice, but rode towards the ruins gate of the former island.

Soon faded away and disappeared behind the gate.