Chapter 203: Tug of War
"Of course, the 'ordinary' level on the CNS does not mean that it is equivalent to the level of articles in second- and third-rate journals, but that there are many studies around the world that reach this level every year, so much so that it can only be described as 'ordinary', such as the graphene you are studying now, almost every year someone claims to have solved its mass production problem."
As soon as Feng Jinhui finished speaking, Han Kangshun added: "The next thing is the key point we want to tell you, the first type of top-level work can be said to be done by a few people or teams in the world. ”
"Most of the people who are already quite good in their own field do the most of the third type of 'ordinary' work"
"So the problem comes, CNS is so little layout, but there are so many cattle people, and these cattle people often hit the topic, you also study condensed matter, I also study condensed matter, so whose article does CNS choose?"
Seeing that Han Kangshun stopped and looked at him, Wu Bin thought for a while and replied, "Authors who have already published articles in their magazines before?" ”
"Clever." Han Kangshun nodded, looking teachable, "Because CNS editors never lack high-quality manuscript sources, there are a large number of well-known authors who have published many papers in CNS magazines waiting in line to publish articles all the time, which leads to CNS almost never considering which authors have never published articles in CNS magazines. ”
"Can this also be a monopoly?" Wu Bin was a little surprised.
"Alas, if you do something for a long time, you will always form a fixed circle, which sounds a little sour and a bit of a conspiracy theory, but you can still find a clue from the CNS journals of previous years, only a fixed vote has the right to pour water into CNS, if you are not in that circle, even if you make the same level of results, or even if the level is still high, it is difficult to publish in CNS."
Saying that, Han Kangshun sighed: "A large number of manuscripts in our country are submitted to CNS every year, but most of them are 'clicked' at the editing level, even if they are lucky, they pass the ......."
"Alright, alright, what you're saying is like pouring cold water on it." Feng Jinhui interrupted Han Kangshun and said to Wu Bin with a smile: "You have to understand that we have no problem with acid, after all, there are still many powerful Chinese people who have published articles on CNS, and I believe you can too." ”
"Thank you for your encouragement." After thanking Wu Bin, he asked curiously, "That...... How do you get into the CNS community? ”
Feng Jinhui thought for a while and replied: "This answer should be relatively clear, if you have entered those big bull laboratories that have published articles in CNS for a long time, even if you have mixed into the circle, to put it simply, it is to become their students, and even for the sake of insurance, it is best to enter a few more CNS-level laboratories, if you perform well enough in the laboratory and get the favor of your mentor, it is still easy to publish a few CNS articles." ”
"Hmm...... Is this the reason why studying abroad is more likely to be better than studying at home? ”
Hearing Wu Bin's sudden question, Feng Jinhui was stunned at first, and then replied: "It can be said that it is one of the reasons, after all, many big bulls in China take this route." ”
After speaking, looking at Wu Bin's thoughtful expression, Feng Jinhui suddenly patted his thigh and said: "Of course, it is no problem to publish articles with hard power, if you can make great research that is groundbreaking and can impress the world, then it doesn't matter what circle is not in the circle, when the time comes, CNS begs you to publish articles in their journals." ”
"Well, that's the case." Han Kangshun listened and nodded, "But there is one of the worst ones, neither has the hard power of a genius, nor can he get into the laboratory of the CNS bull, so he will publish the research results in the "PNAS (Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences)" one day, and wait for which CNS bull will find out one day, after reading all your academic papers, he sighs with emotion, 'This person is really talented, if there is my name on the article, it will definitely be published on CNS, once he has this idea a few more times, he will be embarrassed to reject you continuously, of course, It's not good that you can publish papers in PNAS (Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences) in bulk. ”
Teacher Han...... You're so sad today. After listening to the story of Han Kangshun, who was almost full of "unlucky ghosts", Wu Bin couldn't help but complain.
"Hahaha, this guy's paper was rejected by EI again, can you not lose it," Feng Jinhui laughed out loud.
"It's like you haven't been rejected." Seeing his bad friend smiling so happily, Han Kangshun was a little angry,
"At least I'm in a better state of mind than you." Feng Jinhui laughed again after speaking.
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For people who have been in the scientific research circle for a long time, the process of submitting papers to journals is like eating pork even though they have never seen a pig run, and the basic process is still clear.
Therefore, after Wu Bin mixed up with them, he was relatively clear about the submission process of Science.
First of all, his paper must have passed the first level of "Science" editing, because if the "Science" editors think that what you wrote is a piece of soaring or nothing new, and it is boring, it is a direct rejection in seconds, and this rejection is basically within 24 hours, which can be described as a second rejection in the journal industry.
As long as you persist for one day, it means that your paper has entered the second level, the Editorial board, commonly known as the editorial board, is to let some senior reviewers and industry peers see how the quality of your paper is, this process is about two weeks.
Then when your manuscript is converted to under evaluation
At this time, the average undergraduate student can already brag, and he can break into this stage of undergraduate, which can be said to be quite competent.
In the fourth week of Wu Bin's submission, he was looking at the literature and suddenly received an email, and when he opened it, it was from the revieer of Science!
'Has it finally reached the most troublesome stage of this legend?' ’
This stage is a tug-of-war with the reviewer, generally speaking, the reviewer will send you some rebuttals or questions, if it is only a few, it is generally for you to explain or modify the meaning, but if it is a dozen smashed in your face, then there is no need to change, just vote for it.
According to Feng Jinhui, there are many people who reject from "Science" to "PNAS", and then to some second-rate magazines in the scientific research community, and a combination of punches can give you some small magazines with 4 or 5 points from "Science".
However, Wu Bin didn't see any trouble in his reviewer's email, and they were all questions from a very positive angle, so Wu Bin pondered his answer and began to write a reply email.