Chapter 369: Brain in a Jar
When Xiao Yun said the word "deception", Dink's mind suddenly flashed the information he had obtained from the Martian's mind.
Robots are stupid.
If you're stupid, go and deceive them.
Dink didn't think about it for nothing, but after thinking about it for a long time, Dink eventually gave up on the idea. Because Dink faces an insurmountable obstacle. So at this moment, when Xiao Yun said this word, Dink almost subconsciously retorted: "This is not feasible. ”
"Oh? Why isn't it feasible? Xiao Yun asked with a smile.
Are you talking about deception to get the bots that survive the "separate hedging" strategy to give up self-replication? This is absolutely not feasible. Dink muttered, "This involves the logical judgment mechanism inside the robot, and we ...... There is no ability to change the robot's logical judgment mechanism. We can't convince bots of lies like "it's best to copy just 10,000 robots" or "it's best to keep the situation as it is and not replicate itself", which conflicts with the robot's logical judgment mechanism. Also, how can you use deception to destroy the vast majority of robots? Do they think that burning engines, burning chips, or attacking their own kind is the best way to survive? This is equally unreasonable. ”
"No, it makes sense." Xiao Yun sighed, "Robots have something in common with us humans, that is, all the information about the outside world is based on certain organs or certain instruments. So Dink, I ask you, how do you know for sure I'm real? How can you be sure that my presence is not the result of stimulation of some part of your head? Imagine that I don't exist at all, but that your organs responsible for sight and hearing receive the control of the radio waves sent by certain instruments, and you mistakenly think that I exist...... Isn't that reasonable? ”
Dink was stunned for a moment, and then said, "The brain in the vat? It doesn't make sense. ”
The so-called brain in a jar is an idea. Suppose a person only has one brain, and this brain is placed in a large vat filled with nutrient solution, and there are many electrodes connected to this brain, which stimulate the parts of the brain such as hearing, vision, touch, and taste by sending different electrical signals, because these electrical stimulation are no different from the biological currents or nerve signals naturally generated in the human body, then the brain in this large vat can still feel everything in the world, the difference is that Everything that this brain feels is deliberately controlled by humans - but as the brain itself, it has no way to tell this.
So a terrible point can be deduced from this, that is, as a living person in the real world, how can you be sure that you are real, and not just a brain in a vat?
There is no solution to this question, because any real-world evidence, whether it is what you see or hear, everything you come into contact with, the occasional chill on your skin, the warm touch when you touch your lover...... None of this can be used as evidence to deny the brain in a vat, because all of this may be the product of an electric current stimulus.
But philosophically, this problem can be easily solved. The solution to this problem is based on Occam's razor. Occam's razor law affirms the principle of thinking about things, which is not to add substance unless necessary. Applying Occam's razor to the brain in a jar is that if we assume that each of us is not an entity, but only a brain in a jar, then we need to assume many, many things, such as assuming that a large power has the power to create a brain in a jar, assuming that they have the motivation to do so, that they have the technology to do so, that they have the means to act without being noticed by human civilization at the beginning, and that ...... Many, many things need to be assumed. And if we think that the brain in the vat doesn't exist, then we don't need any assumptions.
That litany of assumptions is the addition of entities, and these entities are unnecessary, so they will be shaved off by Occam's razor, so we think that the brain in the vat does not exist, and that we are all living, real beings.
Of course, Dink knew about the hypothesis of a brain in a vat, and he also knew about the existence of Occam's razor, so Dink would say that a brain in a vat was meaningless.
But Xiao Yun has a different view on this matter. Looking at Dink, who was becoming more and more confused, Xiao Yun smiled and said, "Of course I know that the brain in the jar is meaningless, I just want to use this incident to illustrate a truth, that is...... What kind of judgment a being makes depends entirely on external information, and you only need to provide the corresponding information to the being for what purpose you want to achieve. There is no way to change the internal logical judgment mechanism, but the external information can be changed. ”
After a slight mutter, Xiao Yun continued: "To use such an analogy, let's say I want to murder you by exposing you to highly toxic substances, and your logical judgment mechanism is to stay away from highly toxic substances when you see them, so as to prevent yourself from being harmed by highly toxic substances, but if I take some way to provide you with the wrong information that the highly toxic substances are actually non-toxic and beneficial to your body, then ...... Will you touch it? And in this murder process, I did not change your logical judgment mechanism, you are still you, and you were murdered only because I gave you the wrong information.
Therefore, it doesn't really matter what the original logical judgment mechanism is, what matters is what kind of information it receives. Information is everything. Under the influence of different information, sluts may become fierce women, heroes may become thieves, as for their original logical judgment mechanism, what the code of conduct is, it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter. ”
There was some confusion in Dink's eyes. Dink pondered Xiao Yun's words carefully, and after a long silence, Dink found that he couldn't find the loopholes in Xiao Yun's words.
Because that's what it is.
"I see what you mean." Dink nodded slowly: "Misleading the robot group by providing false information - these false information are specially customized for the robot's logical judgment mechanism, through this deceptive way, to make the robot group act according to our hearts, and ultimately achieve our goals...... But how? ”
Dink pondered hard about this question as he said slowly: "There are two goals to be achieved through deception, the first purpose is to destroy most of the robots, and the second purpose is to make the surviving robots give up and continue to copy themselves...... Not...... Wrong. Although there is a clause of "separate hedging" in the logical judgment mechanism of the robot group, this article may not be impossible for us to use, and we may be able to find a lie to deceive the robot group into giving up this point. ”
Xiao Yun smiled faintly and shook his head: "This is probably not good." I've thought about this a few years ago, and I've envisioned a lot of lies trying to get the robots to abandon their hedging strategies, or the surviving robots to give up replicating themselves...... But I thought about it for a long time, and I didn't think that there was a lie that could do this - although in an absolute sense, a lie can do anything, as long as the corresponding information is provided, no matter what we ask the robot to do, but this is only in an absolute sense, in reality, that is, the difficulty of the lie is large or small, maybe there is some kind of lie that can achieve this goal, but the difficulty of that lie is too great, so big that we can't achieve it at all.
I've been haunted by this for a long time, and I haven't been able to get anything out of it. But just before that, it dawned on me and I figured it all out. I don't think we really have to do this, we don't have to get the bots to abandon their hedging strategies or the surviving bots to give up copying themselves - yes, there's no need, we can modify our needs and tolerate the existence of the surviving bots, as long as we find a way to keep them within acceptable limits. And the difficulty of the lie to achieve this is probably acceptable. ”
Dink still struggled to figure it out: "While the lies needed to achieve this are less difficult than the lies needed to get the robots to abandon their hedging strategies or the surviving robots to give up copying themselves, it's still very difficult in an absolute sense." So what kind of lies do we have to use to achieve this? ”
Xiao Yun replied with a smile: "I don't know what kind of lie to use to achieve this, but I think that since the general direction of our work has been determined...... It will not be too difficult to perfect it, and then it will not be too difficult to execute. However, there is a premise principle, that is, since we want to launch a deception offensive against the robot group, we must make sure that there are no dead ends, and the deception offensive must cover all robots, and no robot can escape. If only one robot escapes, our plans could be ruined. ”
"I understand that," Dink said. Rest assured, the smallpox virus I developed is still lacking in lethality, but I can guarantee that any robot that can communicate with the rest of the robots will be infected. Wherever the smallpox virus goes, our deception campaign can go. ”
Xiao Yun nodded: "That's why I'm looking for you to cooperate." (To be continued.) )