When Wang Chong, who had gray hair, said these words, he could be described as sincere, and it seemed that every word came from the bottom of his heart.

When Chu Ge advanced the copy to the second stage for the first time, he was indeed confused, and he didn't think of any reason to refute it at all, so that the copy failed.

But this time it was clearly different.

Chu Ge couldn't help but sneer: "Lord Wang said this, is he really a loyal minister who serves the country and the people and has good intentions?"

"Could it be that I, Yang Yan, misunderstood Lord Wang?

"It's just that although I, Yang Yan, have a low official position, I have also seen the suffering of the people, and I am not so easy to deceive. Lord Wang, you don't have to fool me with the same tricks that ordinary scholars do, it will only add to the laughing stock.

"Lord Wang, do you mean that for every 100 catties of grain produced by the imperial court, Lord Wang replaced it with 300 catties of bran and saved three times as many victims? Not only increased the number, but also reduced layers of corruption and exploitation, killing two birds with one stone?

But is that really the case?

"I'm afraid that for every hundred catties of grain produced by the imperial court, Lord Wang's henchmen embezzled sixty or seventy catties, and only thirty catties of grain were exchanged for one hundred catties of bran!

"Lord Wang, are you really so naïve, thinking that if you change it to bran and forage, you won't have your hands up and down, and you won't have layers of greedy ink, right?

"Lord Wang, how did you get your Wanguan family wealth, it didn't fall from the sky, right? Lord Wang, you take the lead in embezzling grain, up and down, a huge royal party will treat you as the main backbone, to let these people be willing to do things for you, it is inevitable to work up and down, and the interests are evenly distributed, I am afraid this is the truth that the food for disaster relief will never be enough, right?

Lord Wang cleaned himself up with his words, as if the corruption was all because those local officials were hopeless, as if sharing profits was a last resort. Lord Wang, as the first powerful minister of my Great Wei Dynasty, you are so weak? This really surprised me! ”

Wang Chong was silent for a moment.

The light was very dim, but Chu Ge could still feel that Wang Chong's initial confident momentum had been suppressed a lot.

This shows that Chu Ge's words have worked!

Wang Chong's statement is indeed very confusing at first glance, especially for those who lack grassroots experience, it is extremely lethal.

If he is an ordinary scholar, Wang Chong's sophistry may even destroy all his ideals and beliefs.

This is also the purpose of Wang Chong's here: to brand Yang Yan as an idealist with a naïve mind and achieve nothing, and then all this will naturally develop in the direction that Wang Chong is inclined to.

Whether Yang Yan bowed to reality, admitted his mistakes to the emperor, or became discouraged, his goal was achieved.

Unexpectedly, Yang Yan didn't hesitate at all, but grabbed the loophole in his rhetoric and attacked it head-on!

However, Wang Chong is Wang Chong after all, if he is defeated so simply, it will be impossible to control the government for decades and stand tall in political turmoil again and again.

Wang Chong sighed softly: "Then do you know how much grain is still in the treasury?" You only say that I have a lot of money, but this little wealth of mine is nothing compared to the annual deficit of the national treasury!

"Throughout the ages, how many corrupt officials and how many clean officials have been there? Qing officials are like a rarity, while corrupt officials are like sand in the river. If I had relied on a clean official like you, I would have been imprisoned long before you. Is there anything I can do but use these corrupt officials?

"The treasury is empty, and I can only work as a pastemaker, and do my best to help as many people as I can with limited money and food.

"Whether it's bran or forage, the victims are not human at all, so they can save as much as they want!"

Chu Ge lowered his head and chuckled heavily.

"Lord Wang, I can hear your good intentions, and I also know that you are sitting very hard under one person and above ten thousand people.

"Lord Wang, you have strategized and worked hard, and you and all the people in the royal party have been whitewashed as good officials for the country and the people, so I only ask you this sentence: What if it provokes a popular uprising?

"Lord Wang, what are you going to do?

"Since Lord Wang also knows that the treasury of my Great Wei Dynasty is empty, the upper and lower levels are greedy, and the people are displaced, it is already a scene where the building is about to collapse and it is difficult to support it alone, but why is it still blind and indifferent?

"Lord Wang has a sentence that is right, the victims are not people, they are animals, but animals are in a hurry, and they will also eat people!

"How do you know that the victims of the disaster will understand the plight of your well-dressed king, and obediently go to eat bran?

"How do you know that good food has turned into bran and forage, so that the victims will not be resentful?

"How do you know, Lord Wang, that when the people are in turmoil, those angry victims will not strip you and those officials of the Wang Party and hang them on trees?

"Lord Wang, your theory can still make sense in a small area, especially among your henchmen, and it will probably be regarded as a guideline; But once you look at the world, don't you think it's ridiculous?

"All dynasties have clean officials and corrupt officials, but some dynasties are glorious and prosperous, the country is rich and the people are safe, and some dynasties are weak and the people are poor, and bandits are everywhere, what is the difference?

"In my opinion, I'm afraid it depends on the number of Lord Wang and I, Yang Yan!

"Lord Wang, you don't have to wake up in the sweet dreams you weaved, but when the angry victims storm your mansion and hang you, don't forget what I said today!"

Wang Chong wanted to say something, but Chu Ge continued to speak, interrupting him.

"Lord Wang, you said that you have no other way than to use these corrupt officials, which also surprised me.

"I still remember when I was a county magistrate in Li'an County, several other surrounding counties also suffered from the same drought as Li'an County.

"Later, only Li'an County was safe and sound under my rule, and the other counties all provoked a popular uprising.

"I was just a small magistrate at that time, and I still knew how to control my subordinates, but Lord Wang could achieve such a high position, but I don't know? Instead, he left those corrupt officials and couldn't do things?

"If Lord Wang is unconscious, it is better to return to his hometown as soon as possible, and I will take over Lord Wang's position, what do you think?"

After Chu Ge finished speaking, he raised his head directly and looked at Wang Chong's eyes proudly.

You say that you have so much hardship, so do you dare to let me go?

I'm on my way!

As soon as these words came out, Wang Chong was completely speechless.

Because there is no way to refute these words!

Wang Chong said that it is nothing more than emphasizing that there are many corrupt officials and few clean officials, and he must point to corrupt officials to do things, so it is helpless to share so many benefits.

If a scholar with no ability hears this statement, he is likely to be unable to refute it, after all, he has no ability to bypass these corrupt officials to provide disaster relief.

But Yang Yan is different!

Yang Yan had been the magistrate of Li'an County before, and there was no shortage of greedy and treacherous officials under him, but Yang Yan governed them obediently, and when the other counties were all provoked by the lack of food for disaster relief, only Li'an County was safe and sound.

It is precisely because of Yang Yan's exploits in Li'an County that he has the opportunity to become an official in the court.

Chu Ge seized this point and chased after Wang Chong fiercely!

Didn't you say that you can only use these corrupt officials? If you can't do it, just replace me! I don't need these corrupt officials, I can also distribute disaster relief food to the victims!

The reason why Chu Ge was able to say such things confidently was precisely because everyone knew that Yang Yan was not a scholar who could only talk rhetorically and uselessly, but a good official who had the ability and responsibility.

The methods to refute Wang Chong are actually on Yang Yan's resume, as long as you dig deeper, there will be one.

Wang Chong's face was cloudy, and in the end he could only stand up silently and turn away.

Because his little bit of caution has been completely debunked!

In fact, Wang Chong's words are very confusing, if you change to someone else, it is indeed easy to be persuaded by him, and even become his henchman.

If a "useful corrupt official" is compared with an "incompetent clean official", the former must be a complete victory.

But it's a pity that Yang Yan is not an incompetent Qing official, but a Qing official with firm beliefs and more useful!

This little trick is like the morning dew meets the morning sun, and it immediately disappears.