Chapter 62: Deep Dialogue

On the second day, another topic will be launched, namely: technological innovation and development, looking to the future and artificial intelligence.

Ren Hong also became a guest on this topic, in addition to Ren Hong, there was another heavyweight guest, that is, Facebook founder and CEO Mark Brown. Zuckerberg.

Today, the scientific and technological innovation topic section has received a lot of attention, not because of how lofty and fresh the topic is, but because of the two heavyweight guests. Needless to say, Ren Hong has now become another legend full of enthusiasm and inspiration in China, that is, after Ma Yun, and his youth makes people feel more cordial, just like a kind of person. Ren Hong became a Chinese-style Bill. Characters like Gates and Steve Jobs, he is undoubtedly chased by a large number of Chinese people.

And Mark Zuckerberg is also a global famous figure, in the world, more than 2 billion people know Mark Zuckerberg, it can be seen that he is famous, and he can have such a huge influence is also due to the reason for his Facebook, similarly, Xiaozha also has a lot of popularity in China, and is called the United States Jack Ma, is also a legendary and inspirational figure.

Such two people sitting and talking can naturally greatly attract the audience's vision.

Now, with instant online mutual translation, the special website opened by the forum summit, no matter which country the user is from, as long as he is interested, he can participate in the exchange and interaction of the summit through instant online mutual translation, and there is no communication barrier, and with instant voice translation, the live forum video can be understood by people all over the world.

The special forum opened by Ren Hong and Zuckerberg is undoubtedly the most attractive place, and in each forum, the traffic of the thematic section where the two of them are located is the largest, which is a strong onlooker for netizens from all over the world to this in-depth exchange.

In fact, it is not surprising that the relationship between Ren Hong and Zuckerberg is already eye-catching, and now it is praised by each other as a symbol of Sino-American friendship, and the classic DT combination of the two sides is also talked about. Since Facebook's market capitalization officially surpassed Apple's, it has become the first enterprise represented by the United States, and although XlouS is not listed, it is the most valuable one among the representatives of major Chinese companies.

They represent the most valuable enterprises of both sides, are young world giants, and have in-depth dialogue and look forward to the future in the eastern and western hemispheres!

The two of them are so topical and eye-catching together.

At the scene, Ren Hong and Zuckerberg sat on an independent white curved sofa, and the interesting thing is that the clothes of both sides are somewhat mirrored, which has long been discovered and discussed by netizens many times.

After the exchange and dialogue were about to begin, the moderator began to say:

“…… We are honored to have Mr. Ren Hong, the founder of XlouS from China, and Mr. Mark Murphy, the founder and CEO of Facebook, from the United States. Mr. Zuckerberg participated in this in-depth dialogue ......"

“…… Artificial intelligence is not a new topic since the fifties and sixties of the last world. Artificial intelligence has become more and more popular, and in real life, artificial intelligence has entered many fields and is closely related to people's lives, so what is the impact of artificial intelligence on the future development of human beings, and what are your views? ”

Zuckerberg was the first to answer: "AI (artificial intelligence) is already a cliché. In the future, if someone asks me what technology is most important? I think it's AI, and in the future, AI will be as important as electricity, and it will be difficult for humans to live without AI. ”

Ren Hong also said: "Perhaps, in the future, as Mr. Son said, in the future, it is not the number of people that will determine a country's GDP ranking, but the amount of intelligent robots and their intelligence." He crossed his legs, leaned back against the sofa, held the microphone to his lips, and said with a smile: "At present, the GDP of the United States ranks first in the world, but it is not certain whether it will continue to win the first place in the near future." ”

Zuckerberg said: "To be honest, before the advent of the voice assistant 'Xiaoyou', I always thought that IBM's 'Watson' was the world's most advanced AI. But I was amazed by the intelligent voice assistant 'Xiaoyou' launched by XlouS, she is so comprehensive, China is already leading the world in the field of AI. ”

Zuckerberg's unsparing praise made Chinese netizens watching the video very proud, and China is leading Europe and the United States in another cutting-edge hot field.

Zuckerberg restrained his surprised look, paused and continued: "Not only in China, but on a global scale, I think in the next 5 to 8 years, the major giant companies will usher in the biggest opportunity, but also one of the biggest challenges, that is, the rapid development and popularization of AI!" ”

The host nodded and said: "We all know that we are now in the era of the sixth wave recognized by mankind, that is, the era of the Internet of Everything, with smart homes, smart wearable devices and intelligent robots as the main representatives, these more and more emerging products, in this era of the Internet of Everything, what is the way they interact with each other?" ”

"Voice!" Ren Hong said, and the host and Zuckerberg nodded and looked at Ren Hong.

Ren Hong held the microphone and looked at the live audience and the camera lens in front of him, "I think it's voice." ”

He added: "In my personal opinion, I agree that the future will be an era of the Internet of Everything, where voice is the main thing. Take our company's intelligent voice assistant 'Xiaoyou' as an example, voice is gradually replacing control, replacing cumbersome operations, and completing various instructions and needs issued by people through language......"

“…… As far as voice is concerned. Throughout the course of human history, historians, archaeologists and some scholars have generally reached a consensus that we humans have been born on the basis of language to achieve a breakthrough in the true sense. From the birth of humans until the evolution of Homo sapiens over a long period of time, we know that the real difference between apes and Homo sapiens is not that they walk upright, but that Homo sapiens has its own unique language. ”

"It is precisely because of the birth of language that all kinds of information can be transmitted from person to person, and this interaction allows the accumulated knowledge and culture of human beings to be passed on to the next generation, from generation to generation."

"I think...... The development of artificial intelligence should also start from this aspect, and the future intelligent machinery and a variety of interactive devices will allow artificial intelligence to obtain 'cognitive' ...... through language."

The discussion about artificial intelligence is no longer a matter of one or two days, but the in-depth dialogue on this topic is undoubtedly very hot, not only Ren Hong is exchanging, but also netizens watching the video are also hotly discussing and expressing their opinions.

The host said, "...... When it comes to artificial intelligence, we can't help but say something else. At the moment, there is always exciting news coming from the field of artificial intelligence, including XlouS, but there are also concerns about artificial intelligence all the time. Many movies such as "The Terminator" and "The Matrix" have expressed concern and warning to the world through artistic techniques, maybe out-of-control machines do not always exist in the science fiction world, and may exist in the near future. The philosopher Price once said: 'We have to take seriously the moment when it could become a 'Pandora's box,' and the consequences could be catastrophic if AI gets out of control.' 'Not only Price, but also the famous scholar Stephen Hawking and Musk and Bill. Gates and others have expressed concerns about artificial intelligence, and the fear is that when a high-level intelligent machine is created, it may get out of control, and the value of the machine to humans and humanity will become indifferent.

In his view, a tipping point may be reached when a computer can write its own programs to program itself. Most people, scientists, philosophers, or free-thinking scholars, are warning the world that such problems can be serious. The host talked about the hottest topic of artificial intelligence, as long as artificial intelligence is mentioned, this topic is always inevitable, and many netizens are listening carefully, wanting to see what the two big names on the stage think.

Zuckerberg was the first to speak, saying: "There are many experts in this field who believe that in the next five to 15 years or so, many of today's traditional occupations will disappear, and some data even suggest that it will reach a staggering 65 percent." They describe an exciting and frightening future. ”

Zuckerberg continued: "Humanity today is experiencing a very great and terrifying third technological industrial revolution that is a fusion of biogenetic engineering, new materials engineering, and AI (artificial intelligence). What impact will the advent of AI have on us humans? I recently read a forum article in the newspaper about the military, saying that by 2050, the armed forces of major countries will be composed of three types: natural people, robots, and biological people......

…… In the near future, maybe ten years, maybe twenty years, or a longer period of time, there may be about 80% of people in the whole human society who are very likely to have no chance to work from birth to death, but this does not sound like good news, no job is likely to bring great boredom, emptiness, loneliness to individuals, the traditional country, the current management model of enterprises and organizations and society will also usher in unprecedented challenges. ”

Zuckerberg nodded and stopped talking, and Ren Hong, who was on the side, pointed the microphone to his chin after a while, and said after facing the audience: "I agree with Zacker's opinion." Today we are sitting on the stage, and we are having some exchanges that may be considered nonsense, but this is the future, we are not experts in the future, and we cannot predict the real future, but we can talk about some dreams and future possibilities. On the topic of artificial intelligence, I don't think there is much to say, the trend is inevitable. No one can stop the development of science and technology, no matter who it is.

Everything in the world has two sides, and so does technology, which can bring us positive benefits and negative effects, artificial intelligence will not be like human war as depicted in movies like "Terminator" or "The Matrix", it is just the fear that exists in our own human hearts, because it (AI) is not needed at all, what does it mean for it? In essence, there is no right or wrong in technology, whether it has a positive or negative impact on us, but ultimately it is up to us as human beings to make our own choices......"

After a pause, as the audience pondered, he continued: "Suppose one day, some mad scientist, a terrorist, or a curious idiot writes one or two or more instructions to an artificial intelligence, one or another command. If the AI is commanded to destroy humanity, the AI will execute the command. That is to say, artificial intelligence needs an instruction, which is the same as a goal we are chasing, the difference is that we humans will set goals for ourselves, will give up or move forward, but artificial intelligence will not independently generate commands, let alone like us humans, even if it is the so-called super-artificial intelligence.

Artificial intelligence is just a tool in its own right. Therefore, it is the human beings themselves who use tools that decide the fate of mankind. ”

(To be continued)