At the end of a confrontation exercise, the results of the two sides were "one to one", the returning fighters landed lightly on the base runway, the pilots shook hands with each other after getting off the plane, greeted each other, Long Yun, who was active as Victor, also took out a pen and signed the two PLAF pilots Oh okay, in fact, his wingman also came over to ask for autographs, and then each went back to the combat preparation room to take off their flight equipment and meet the other members of the delegation.

The confrontation in the sky has ended, and the busyness of the ground crews has just begun, and the mechanics of China and the Soviet Union have begun to check the status of the fighters and test the status of various subsystems; After all, this is the first confrontation between the J-10 and the MiG-29M, and it is also the first appearance of the "Raptor" since the mass production of the PLAF.

Long Yun completed the conversation between the "Raptor" and the MiG quite easily, he sat in the lounge for a while, chatted with the VVS colonel who was driving the wingman, and asked about the Sino-Soviet military trade in recent years.

The questioning of Viktor Rezenov, in the case of an ordinary person, will most likely alarm his colleagues.

Indeed, as a veteran pilot of the Red Air Force, it is simply incomprehensible not to know a little about the export of domestic fighters, especially about the big business of the allies in the Far East; However, since it was the "Grim Reaper" who spoke, of course the colonel knew everything without doubt, and Long Yun also knew a little bit about the situation.

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Sure enough, it was similar to the situation in the real world, after the normalization of relations between China and the Soviet Union and the further renewal of the Treaty of Friendship, Cooperation and Mutual Assistance, as with the Sukhoi Design Bureau. The Mikoyan/Grevich Design Bureau also marketed the MiG29 fighter to China in the late eighties. However, the PLALAF delegation was "completely attracted to the SU27". Coupled with some technical considerations, a large number of imports of the latter were finally determined, and although the MiG29 was sold well in traditional regions such as Eastern Europe and Asia, Africa and Latin America, it did not win the largest order from the Far East.

Long Yun knew about this situation a long time ago, and he also knew the reason why China did this, mainly because he believed that in the case of a vast territory and limited armaments, the larger, heavier and farther Sukhoi was obviously better than the MiG. Moreover, the GCI system, which MIG29 is highly relied on, China has no intention of deploying it, and the choice of SU27 is a natural thing.

As for another understanding, there used to be quite a market on the Internet, that is, "the military believes that the 'Project 10' can replace MIG29 and form a high-low combination of PLAAF", which is nonsense, at least in the real world.

Back then, after SAC introduced the Su27 production line, the Air Force, which had received the first batch of the original Sukhoi, was like a drug. The core topic of the small meeting of the conference was "two sevens, more two sevens". At that time, the "No. 10 Project" that was hampered by various subsystems had not yet been finalized, not to mention that Shen Fei's public relations work was also in place, and at that time, PLAF's idea was probably "all twin-engine heavy aircraft", if the military expenditure was not enough, it was probably a certainty, and it was not impossible to pinch his nose to receive some SAC tie-in "Cai Guoqing".

As for later, the "Raptor" that solved the engine problem was finally finalized and put into production, a certain 386 paragraph aside, the Air Force sent personnel to test the flight and found that "the original single-engine aircraft can also be so fierce", J-10A gradually began to equip the PLA Air Force and Naval Aviation in batches, and the Su27 series together formed a high and low match of the role reversal.

The so-called "role reversal" is probably a way of comparing it with the U.S. military F15/F16.

Since joining the PLA's combat sequence, the SU27SK/UBK as a twin-engine heavy aircraft has been continuously improved, plus the localized J-11B, J-16 and imported SU30MKK, the whole series of members are leaning in the direction of multi-purpose, air-to-surface ammunition, various pods and fire control system improvements emerge one after another, fully tapping the advantages of the Sukhoi family's large bomb load and long range; In contrast, the J-10 family has never lost its true color of air defense interception, from Type A to Type C has always had quite good air superiority capabilities, but it is lackluster in terms of multi-purpose, and it is still a model that focuses on air control until it is finally decommissioned.

The situation of light aircraft being superior in air and heavy aircraft being multi-purpose may seem strange, but in fact it is the result of the multi-purpose tide of reducing the size of the air forces of various countries and maintaining combat power in the post-Cold War era.

After a sigh, I don't know if the VVS colonel sitting next to him can understand, Long Yun wisely didn't say more.

That night, in the dining room of the base, he dined with the members of the delegation and the Chinese personnel, and had a more "ordinary" Chinese meal, Long Yun continued to eat the night before, but today he had more eyes and restrained his gluttonous thoughts, otherwise as a native of Russia, although he looks a little **, is it a little strange that he is so obsessed with Chinese food?

At the table, compared with the situation the day before, the wine provided in the base was more simple, and the personnel on both sides who had been busy for a day did not put their minds on competing for the amount of wine, Long Yun and Wang Weiguo and Zheng Bin, who had fought during the day, sat at a round table, and naturally turned to the comparison between the "Raptor" and MIG29M when they spoke.

How good is the performance of a fighter, the numbers don't count, and the actual test flight is not necessarily accurate, and it is very meaningful to compare it with other models of the same era.

Although it was a conversation in Russian, Long Yun was still interested in continuing the discussion with Mr. Wang's "character projection" during the day, and took out some information from the briefcase on the side to assist in the explanation, after all, with his considerations, PLARAF has a thorough understanding of the Su27, so the MiG29 with a similar layout in the cabin must be no stranger to the PLA pilots, combined with the daytime confrontation process, he now focuses on the performance and combat use of the MiG aircraft.

The weapons and equipment of the Red Empire, generally speaking, pay attention to the user's ability to get started quickly and change equipment, and the cockpit layout of the MiG and Sukhoi is also very similar, however, with the upgrading of the airborne system, the cockpit dashboard of the M-type Su27 has a lot less disc glass, and the difference between it and the MiG29M is also a lot bigger.

Since both sides are pilots, not technicians from the design bureau, Long Yun, Wang Weiguo and others have been talking about the performance of fighter jets, especially their combat capabilities.

Evaluating the two fighters from the user's point of view, some interesting differences can be found in the dialogue between the two sides.

In the early years, the flight J-8i, and later changed to Su27SK, Wang Weiguo only took over the J-10 fighter in recent months, the young major was originally very respectful of the flexible "Raptor", and the understanding of "high and low matching" is also in place, and now he evaluates the MIG29 that has just been handed over, his point of view is probably to see it as a more powerful Su27, this view actually has some truth, after all, the aerodynamic configuration, electronic system and weapons and equipment of the two are similar.

Based on this understanding, after hearing some inquiries about the MiG29M equipment, Long Yun explained to Wang Weiguo and others that the M-type MiG is still a front-line fighter prepared for the world war, so the performance is not much improved compared with the prototype, and the modification design mainly considers the needs of mass production.

On the other hand, Long Yun also expressed some opinions on the "Project Ten" completed by the CAC as Viktor Rezenov, anyway, the table is not a formal meeting occasion, he said it quite casually:

"Yes, according to my personal understanding, your army's equipment system does need a multi-purpose light aircraft, and the 'No. 10 Project' should be said to be very successful in this regard; on the other hand, regarding the military trade process in the early years, the design of the MIG29 does not fully meet the operational needs of the Chinese Air Force, after all, the military confrontation situation in the Far East is different from that of China and Europe, and the combat styles and tasks to be completed by our two armies are also different.

Another point, as for the visit and inspection in the morning, the technical personnel of your army mentioned that the design and manufacturing standards of the 'No. 10 Project' are different from those of our army's system.

I am very interested in this regard, if I can reveal how the production cost and man-hours of the 'No. 10' compare with the SU27SK; After all, looking at the current situation, it is clear that China also needs to update its huge second-generation aircraft fleet as much as possible, and as far as I know, the production process and cost of Sukhoi fighters are difficult to meet this requirement. ”

"Oh, hehe!

Comrade Lieutenant General, you can stop me now,"

As a PLAF pilot, Wang Weiguo smiled at Lieutenant General Viktor Rezenov, "Speaking of which, I only know roughly the cost of the 'No. 10 machine', but you must know that under the economic system of a socialist country, the cost of weapons production is difficult to calculate and needs to be kept secret, and we as pilots do not know it."

However, Comrade Rezenov, in the opinion of our front-line personnel, perhaps the 'No. 10 machine' will not immediately enter mass production, or speculate, there is no such plan above. ”

"Oh......?

Is that so, and why? ”

Long Yun nodded slightly at Wang Weiguo's answer, he originally just asked as a casual chatter, as for the manufacturing hours of weapons, it was originally only an approximate estimate, and the accurate statistics of the military industry department certainly existed, but in fact, due to the changes in the technology, process and the situation of the upstream and downstream supporting manufacturing departments, the so-called "manufacturing man-hours" must be an ever-changing approximation. (To be continued......)