Section 18 Discussion of Politics (2)
By the riverside forest, the night is like water, the bonfire is thick, and the tongue and sword and lip gun really make Jiang Feng feel like a debate after camping and staying overnight when he traveled with his classmates in college. Pen × fun × Pavilion www. biquge。 info
Before Chu Qi's words fell, Jiang Feng could hear in his ears that there seemed to be a sound of dead branches in the forest, someone?
I listened to it again, but there was no movement, could it be that the birds and beasts in the forest were affected by the bonfire?
He quietly glanced at the woods a few zhang away, compared to more than a thousand years later, here is more secondary forests, now this piece of land is more of a real original forest, red nan, green sandalwood, fragrant fruit trees, zelkova, white spice trees, dendrobium is also everywhere, such as the golden sandalwood, which was originally a very valuable medicinal plant in the green capsule book, was also discovered by Jiang Feng.
Listening quietly, but he didn't find anything, Jiang Feng also felt that he was not too sensitive, this is already the boundary of Shenzhou, and no matter how much energy Caizhou has, it is impossible to run to the foothills of Luoshan Mountain to toss.
There was a little overwhelmed by Chu Qi's aggressive words, but Chen Shi was originally good at words, and after a little thought, he launched a counterattack.
"Da Lang, in your opinion, the Liu family in Nanyang is a deception and stealing fame, so we have traveled all the way, the situation in Luoshan is much better than that of Guangshan and Le'an, this is always a fact, right?" Chen Shi retorted: "And I have been to Nanyang, although it is said that I can't go on the road and don't close my door at night, but it is much more stable than our Gwangju, and there are very few people in the farmhouse with vegetables, this is what I have seen with my own eyes, and there is no lie." ”
"Shenzhou is not bad in the first place, and Shenzhou under the rule of the Ju family is even lighter in taxes and less labor than in our Gwangju. Chu Qi can't compare to Chen Shi in terms of eloquence, but he believes in a reason, "What's more, this virtue is one of them, I'm afraid it can't be judged purely from the good or bad life of the people under the rule, he Nanyang Liu's lies deceived Shenzhou in the front, and the knife in the smile is behind the back, this kind of behavior has never been convincing, this is the governance of talent rather than virtue, no matter how well he regulates Shenzhou, Xiaosheng relies on wisdom, Dacheng relies on virtue, Nanyang Liu's behavior will eventually have retribution!"
"I think Da Lang's view on this confuses the difference between Dade and Xiaode, as the saying goes, soldiers are not tired of cheating, I think Nanyang's raid on Shenzhou is just a military means, it is difficult to rise to one of the virtues, and Nanyang's people's livelihood is rich, far better than Shenzhou, this is Dade, Liu's takeover of Shenzhou, it is not a good thing for Shenzhou people. ”
Chen Shi's sophistry did have some truth, which made it difficult for Chu Qi, who was concerned about the difference between Nanyang and Shenzhou, to answer, and he was also speechless for a while.
"It is true that Nanyang was rich and peaceful under the rule of the Liu family, but that is also the reason why Nanyang has never experienced war for decades, right? In addition, the Nanyang Basin itself has fertile soil and fertile fields, and Nanyang is also known as the emperor's hometown, gathering a large number of talents, Liu Tong and Liu Xuan are not mediocre people, so they can achieve such feats. Jiang Feng smiled slightly, "As for saying that Shenzhou is not much worse under the rule of the Ju family, if you have to say that the difference can only be said that the natural conditions are not as good as Nanyang, and the Huangchao Rebellion once made Shenzhou a piece of white land, and it will take fifty years to make Shenzhou reach the current point, and it is not easy for the Ju family." ”
The Huangchao Rebellion affected the entire Central Plains, and even many of today's lords came from the Huangchao Rebellion, the most typical of which were the Bianluo Zhu clan and the Tanyue Ma clan, the ancestors of these two were the generals of the Huangchao Rebellion Army, and later after the Tang Dynasty, they were enshrined in a place, and the Zhu clan destroyed the Tang Dynasty because of this, and the Ma clan became the overlord of the vast Jiangnan West Road.
In the Huangchao Rebellion, Bian, Cao, Yun, Yan, Chen, Song, Xu, Ru, Cai, Ying, Bo, Shen, Guang and other Central Plains states were all involved, and even Chang'an, Luoyang, Xidong and Beijing were also besieged, but there are still some changes in history here.
Huang Chao went south from Fuzhou to Guangzhou, and plundered in Guangzhou, but did not kill, but only plundered a large number of gold beads in one go, and then kidnapped Hu Shang and his family tens of thousands, and then returned to the north.
These tens of thousands of Hu merchants were held hostage by Huang Chao and left, and the Huang Chao army along the road was attacked by the officials and troops along the road, and they were discarded one after another, such as Tanzhou, Yuezhou, Jiangling, Xiangyang, Hongzhou, Jingchu Jianghuai and other places There are still a large number of Hu people, basically Huang Chao captured Hu Shang and his descendants.
Most of them came from Dashi and Persia, unlike the Hu people in Chang'an, Luoyang, Bianliang and other places today, who mainly came from the Western Regions and Central Asia and further afield.
After Huang Chao returned to the north, he did not capture Chang'an, but returned west after plundering outside Chang'an City, and the same is true of Luoyang, which to a large extent can be regarded as retaining some vitality for the Central Plains Guanzhong.
Back then, the Huangchao army also swept through Shenguang Erzhou, but only Gushi escaped this catastrophe in the counties of Guangzhou.
As soon as Jiang Feng interjected, Chen Shi naturally didn't dare to say more, but still muttered: "Marquis Yu, I always feel that a raid on Shenzhou like Nanyang is just a strategy, and I can't talk about virtue, right?"
As the saying goes, small victories rely on wisdom, great success depends on morality, and soldiers do not tire of deception more often refer to a means of military strategy, rather than as a guiding principle in strategy. For example, the Yuan clan of Caizhou first surrendered to the Zhu clan of Bianliang, and then turned against the water to take refuge in the Huaibei Shi family, in this case, its prestige and reputation will be greatly affected, look at the performance of the Yuan clan in Gwangju, so far it has not been able to settle down, because of its improper body, it is difficult to convince the public, many gentry in Gwangju would rather stay in Gushi than return to Gwangju, that is, out of distrust of the Yuan clan. ”
Jiang Feng was quite patient, he knew that it was quite good for the two teenagers to have such a performance.
After all, limited to their academic horizons, they were just ordinary soldiers before, and they only began to have some opportunities after they became personal guards, and they also strongly encouraged them to express their own opinions, but a few days ago, I was afraid that these two people together would not be able to say a few words.
In fact, Jiang Feng also knew that his words were still a bit far-fetched.
It is necessary to make policy and strategic adjustments according to changes in the situation and the needs of interests, but when adjusting the strategy, we need to pay better attention to the strategy, that is, to find a reasonable reason to make the people below believe, especially the common people at the bottom, otherwise it is easy to let yourself fall into the predicament of "injustice".
Of course, it's a bit far away to talk to these two guys now, but he's still happy to see these two guys grow.
Seeing that the two of them were still a little confused, Jiang Feng further said: "The Nanyang Liu clan used to have a good reputation, but the raid on Shenzhou seemed to be a very perfect plan to succeed, but it also stained their unbreakable golden body, which will make people have to think about it when dealing with them, will it be me who will be betrayed next time?" I think this may not be a good deal for the Nanyang Liu clan, maybe they will pay a greater price for it." ”