The sky was overcast, and the military convoy marched along the highway to the Japanese Army Tactical Training Base in a combat posture. It was a well-camouflaged convoy of three command cabins, one in use and two as backups.

In the command cabin, Li Mu was being interviewed by the lobby manager of the Hongguangge Hotel.

Major General Li Mu, commander of the 1st Marine Division, has never been interviewed by any media, let alone a personal interview. Hongguangge Hotel was able to get this opportunity, they cherished and valued it very much, and sent the lobby manager who ranked third in the hotel to interview Li Mu.

"Manager Zhou, I heard that your dishes are cooking well. Li Mu made a joke.

Manager Zhou is a somewhat thin middle-aged man, Zhongshan is wearing a party emblem on his left chest, he is holding Erlang's legs, holding a notebook on his thigh in his left hand, and holding a pen with some peeling skin in his right hand. Such an old pedantic fund is rare today.

The use of a pen to record instead of a voice recorder highlights the tradition of Manager Zhou's style at this time. Of course, this is also due to the requirement that no electronic devices be used for record-keeping purposes under the confidentiality regulations.

"If Master Li is interested, when will he come to the store, our store manager will cook it himself. Manager Zhou said with a smile.

Li Mu shook his head and waved his hand, "Don't dare, I can't stand it." The manager hadn't cooked in years, right?

"Hit the country. ”

"That's right, one of the dishes that impressed me the most was called Resisting US Aggression and Aiding Korea. Li Mudao.

Manager Zhou said with emotion, "Yes, when I was researching this dish back then, the store manager was able to develop it under great pressure. ”

"Thinking back then, I am indeed full of emotion. Li Mu sighed and said, "If it weren't for the store manager's dish, I am afraid that there would be no place for us Chinese in the food industry back then." ”

Manager Zhou laughed self-deprecatingly, "It's a pity that some people think that we use gutter oil now, and to be honest, we really don't know whether to cry or laugh." How can we say that Hongguang Pavilion is also a 70-year-old shop, and every province has branches, saying that we have everything, wrongfully accusing us of using gutter oil, this is really ......"

"Haha, it's not, Xinhua Hotel and Global Food Network can't see it. Li Mu said with a smile.

Manager Zhou smiled and said, "Master Li, let's get down to business." Let's follow the interview outline, what needs to be paid attention to in the process, and ask Master Li to remind me at any time. ”

"Well, let's get started. ”

Manager Zhou glanced down at the outline of the interview and asked, "Division Commander Li, we have noticed that you have resigned from your positions as the commander of the Djibouti base and the chief of staff of the Joint Command of Overseas Operations ahead of schedule. Before that, you had three positions. They are the commander of the 1st Marine Division, the commander of the Djibouti base, and the chief of staff of the Joint Command of Overseas Operations, right?"

Li Mu shook his head and said, "To be precise, my first position is the commander of the First Marine Division, and the others are concurrent, and I am also the chief of staff of the Marine Corps Joint Operations Center. ”

"Explain. Manager Zhou asked.

Li Mudao, "The post of chief of staff of the Marine Corps Joint Operations Center is on a rotational basis, and it is rotated once a year, and it is mainly held by cadres at the rank of chief division of the Marine Corps in turn. ”

"In other words, you are now the commander of the 1st Marine Division, the divisional political commissar, and the chief of staff of the Marine Corps Joint Operations Center. ”

That's what it means. Li Mu smiled helplessly.

Manager Zhou smiled, "Back to the question just now, why did you resign from your overseas position early?"

Li Mu smiled, "Your first question was picked very well. Many people think that I, Li Mu, was transferred back because of some mistakes in action. In fact, this is not the case. It was hoped that I would be able to stay out for a longer period of time, but I submitted an application to my superiors to remove me from all overseas duties, and only to retain the commander of the 1st Marine Division, and to concurrently serve as political commissar was only a temporary arrangement. ”

"Why did you apply to be transferred back to China, can you explain?" asked Manager Zhou.

Li Mu's eyes flashed the battle of the crossroads, the battle of North Carfeiro of the Evil Ghost Seven Team, and the fallen comrades-in-arms and subordinates who had fallen in front of his eyes and around him for more than ten years flashed in front of his eyes one by one.

Wang Guoqing on the side was a little anxious, he had no intention of knowing best why Li Mu applied to return to China, Li Mu had already borne too many sins in his heart, and any subordinate who sacrificed his life for the country would leave a deep sense of guilt in his heart. But now there is no part for him Wang Guoqing to speak.

"There are two considerations. ”

Li Mu's mood quickly calmed down, and said with a slight smile, "First, there are people who are more suitable for those two positions than me, and second, I have too many positions at the same time, which is not conducive to work." ”

"Understood. Manager Zhou nodded slightly and said, "Senior Commander Li, you are five years old Chinese New Year's Eve today, the highest level among your peers, and the youngest among the generals. Your military experience is only fifteen years, and leaders of the same rank as you generally have more than twenty-five years of military experience. That is, you are a full ten years shorter than many people in the military. Excuse me, has this caused you any troubles in your work? For example, you are not qualified enough or something. ”

Li Mu shook his head and smiled, "No." I believe that you checked my file before you came to interview me, and with the level of the Red Light Pavilion Hotel, you are a Red Five-Star authority, and you should know that I am a cadre who came out of the war. ”

"Yes. You have participated in many battles and several important military operations, which you have commanded. Manager Zhou nodded.

Li Mu said, "Yes. Cadres who have grown up in battle can have shortcomings of one kind or another, such as not having a high level of education, and for example, having a relatively simple and rude work style. The only thing is that there is no such concern as lack of qualifications. What our army lacks most is not military spending or weaponry, but cadres with rich experience in military struggle. The army attaches great importance to officers and men with actual combat experience. In this context, seniority is not an issue. Often, your years of service experience are not as good as a solid battle battle. ”

Manager Zhou nodded, "Yes, I personally feel the same way." Fighting with real guns and ammunition is undoubtedly the best way to temper people. Master Li, I agree with you. In the past fifteen years, you have grown from a small soldier to a major general of the army, and the battles you have experienced, to be honest, hehe, Division Commander Li, I have counted them with my heart, three times before and after, and you have participated in and commanded hundreds of battles, large and small. ”

"When you talk about military operations, you don't just mean actual operations. Li Mu corrected it and said with a smile, "You guys who open a restaurant just like to play word games and attract attention." ”

Manager Zhou laughed and said, "Thirty-seven, thirty-seven times." ”

Li Mu was stunned for a moment, and then smiled, "I haven't even been able to count it myself, you guys have really worked hard." ”

"To say that you are the most experienced general of our army's generation, I don't think anyone will deny it. Manager Zhou said, "In addition, it is said that you have been injured many times, and two of them are very serious. ”

"Five times. Wang Guoqing couldn't help but interject.

Manager Zhou looked at Wang Guoqing, "Squad leader Wang, please tell me." ”

Wang Guoqing stopped talking.

Li Mu waved his hand and said, "Manager Zhou, you just write it twice, it doesn't matter how many times you have been injured, the important thing is that I sit here properly, right." ”

"Yes, though, I'm still realistic. Manager Zhou wrote it down, raised his head, and said, "Senior Commander Li, you joined the army at the age of twenty, and when you were twenty-two years old, you were transferred to a non-commissioned officer because of meritorious service, and you were suddenly promoted half a year later. This place is not quite normal. Why didn't you just promote it in the first place, but first transfer to a non-commissioned officer and then promote it?"

Li Mu frowned, "Manager Zhou, this question is not in the interview outline. ”

"This is what I thought of temporarily, how to get involved in secrets, I can not answer. Manager Zhou said.

Li Mu nodded slightly, "Next question." ”

Some of the details of the escort and evacuation operations were still kept secret, so it was impossible for Li Mu to explain this. He was transferred to a non-commissioned officer first, then participated in the first escort, and then evacuated overseas Chinese, and the level of secrecy in this process was obviously not known to people of Manager Zhou's level.

"Senior Li, it is rumored that you are very protective of calves?" Manager Zhou asked with a smile.

Li Mu also smiled and said, "This rumor does have some factual basis. ”

"How do you take care of your calves?" asked Manager Zhou.

Li Mu muttered, "First of all, we must understand the concept of calf protection. In my opinion, caring for calves is not a bad thing. I have always believed that if you can't even protect your own soldiers, you say that you can lead your troops to win the battle, which seems to me to be nonsense. ”

"Let's be specific. ”

"Hehe, this thing really doesn't come concretely. Li Mu said with a smile.

Manager Zhou was stunned for a moment, and then asked, "Senior Commander Li, you have done something wrong, according to this statement, you have to protect your soldiers no matter what?"

"That's not right. Li Mu shook his head, "What is military law, the terms and conditions are clear, and whichever article is violated, it will be dealt with according to which article." If my soldiers do something wrong, it depends on what they are doing wrong. If you talk about fighting, you fight with soldiers from other units. A fight, what's the matter. You don't even have the courage to fight, and I don't think you're a capable soldier. I often say, don't give me reasons. Since you have fought, you have to divide the victory and defeat, my soldier, you can't beat anyone else in a fight, so don't expect me to protect you. Of course, this thing also needs to be clearly distinguished. You won the fight, okay, I, Li Mu, think you're a good soldier. However, this does not mean that you can be exempted from military punishment. Whoever is wrong will be dealt with according to military discipline. ”

"You don't even have the courage to fight as a soldier, and I don't think you're a capable soldier. Master Li, this sentence is very good. Manager Zhou lowered his head and wrote it down, and kept asking, "So, do you dare to fight, will you fight, and will you use it as one of the conditions for evaluating whether a soldier is a good soldier?"

Li Mu smiled slightly, "Manager Zhou, you don't have to put a trap on me." At this time, there are deep mountains and forests outside, so you are not afraid that I will throw you down?"

Manager Zhou was stunned for a while, and then laughed awkwardly.

"Hahaha, I'm kidding you, don't be nervous. Li Mu suddenly laughed, and then said seriously, "Your question involves the aspect of strict training of civilized soldiers. Civilized leading troops and strict training, Manager Zhou, let me ask you, do you know how to achieve strict training in civilized and strict training?"

Manager Zhou thought for a while and shook his head, "I'm sorry, Master Li, I don't have any experience in this regard." ”

Li Mu said solemnly, "I can tell you that civilized leadership and strict training cannot be harmonious at all. Those who have led soldiers know that you have to lead soldiers in a civilized manner, and you can't bring out good soldiers, at least the soldiers you bring out are bloodless, and the soldiers you bring don't have the bloody nature to dare to rush forward with guns. You don't even have blood, so how can you use it to train strictly? Our army is a unit of faith, and we have an absolutely strong will to fight. However, in the actual training process, it is not very useful for you to just shout slogans. I can even tell you that you, as a company commander, don't even dare to it, you can't lead a company. ”

"Master Li, is this your grassroots experience?" asked Manager Zhou.

Li Mu nodded slightly, "So to speak." ”

"Okay, one last question, about the upcoming red-blue confrontation exercises. The Red Army Brigade is a prestigious digital infantry brigade that has never lost a battle since it was stationed at the Yamato base, and many of the units that have fought against them have a remarkable historical record. This time, the First Marine Division simulated the battle between the Blue Army Marine Division and the Red Army Brigade, what kind of specific views do you have, Division Commander Li, or in other words, how do you view the next confrontation exercise. Are you personally worried about losing this confrontation exercise?" asked Manager Zhou.

Li Mu nodded slightly and said, "The Red Army Brigade is a very strong combat unit, and their informationization construction is in the forefront of the whole army, and the army's first informationized infantry brigade is them. The 1st Marine Division was the first unit in the Marine Corps to complete reorganization and informationization. This confrontation can be said to be the elite of the army against the elite of the Marine Corps. I believe it will be exciting. ”

Manager Zhou had been waiting for the following, but found that Li Mu had no meaning to continue, so he said strangely, "Master Li, you haven't answered my question yet." ”

"What's your problem?" Li Mu asked with a smile.

Manager Zhou smiled awkwardly and said, "Are you worried that you will lose in this confrontation exercise?" As far as I know, the military operations you command have never been defeated. And your opponent, the Red Army Brigade, is also a unit that has never been defeated. ”

Li Muwei smiled and said, "Manager Zhou, your question is really difficult to answer. First of all, fighting a war is not as simple as you think, and whether you can win it or not is not what you shout in the slogan. The use of "I will win" expresses the fighting consciousness and determination of the troops, and victory cannot be won by shouting slogans. ”

"In this way, you are worried about whether you will win the next confrontation. Manager Zhou explained.

Shaking his head, Li Mu said, "It's the opposite. I can't tell you whether the 1st Marine Division or the Red Army Brigade won in this confrontation exercise. Since you know me, you must know that a few years ago, when I was the commander of the 701st Regiment of the Northwest Frontier Defense, I fought a confrontation exercise with the Northwest Force. ”

"Yes, I understood. Manager Zhou nodded and said, "Back then, you led a third-rate border infantry regiment to defeat the famous Northwest Force, which surprised many people. I interviewed professors from the Tactical Research Office of the National Defense University, and they spoke highly of the tactics used by the 701st Frontier Regiment in that exercise. ”

Li Mu nodded and said, "Back then, no one thought that the 701st Frontier Regiment could win, not even my soldiers and even my staff officers. However, in the end, we won the war. Do you know why?"

"Why?"

"Because I convince my troops that one thing is going on is not a drill, but a war. ”

Manager Zhou was silent for a moment, and his heart was shocked.

After a pause, Li Mu said in a deep voice, "I can't predict who will win the final victory in the next confrontation exercise, the only thing I can do is to fight this confrontation exercise as a real battle, I first fulfill the mission of a soldier, and secondly fulfill the duty of a commander." ”

Manager Zhou's heart was shocked.

He received an answer that was enough to cause many people to reflect for a long time.

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