When Hegla said these three words, Wren suddenly realized something, he raised his head and looked at the Pope in a daze, and asked hesitantly: "Hegla?"

Haitra is one of the more famous demigods in the mythological era, half of his blood comes from the god king of the Eastern Regions at that time, Suareti, and half of his blood comes from an ordinary human woman. In the Age of Mythology, Haitra was known for his ability to slay the next god before he ignited his godhead and became a god.

Hitra and Higla are slightly different in pronunciation, but that doesn't necessarily mean that Higel is not Hitra. It's like the god-king Suareti, which is pronounced in Desi and Lingua franca as Koyalei the Emperor and Tuyaledi respectively. So with such a long period of erosion and cultural pronunciation changes, it is not impossible to pronounce it as Highera.

Heghera also froze visibly, and he shook his head with a smile, "I have to admire your knowledge and your thinking so fast, I really wish I was Hetra, not such an ordinary human being." ”

Heghera obviously knew about the demigod hero as well, but he was more curious about how Wren knew about the demigod hero and his name. It is no exaggeration to say that even if the human beings were still in the age of the city-state, they had recorded habits, whether they were animal skin rolls or petroglyphs, to this day.

In addition to the relatively complete records within the church, there is no further understanding of the mythological age from the outside world, except for the mythological stories that have been passed down by word of mouth.

Heighra picked up the glass on the table and took a sip, he wasn't fussy about food or drink. When it comes to his status and strength, it is difficult for external things to affect his heart. Whether it's bitter or luscious, for him, the contents of this cup are water with some other ingredients.

Putting down the cup, Heighra began to chat, "I wonder if the Marquis of Rennes can satisfy my little curiosity, where did you read the story about Haitra?", he smiled slightly, his eyebrows tugged down slightly, showing an apologetic expression, "Of course, if you are not convenient to answer this question, you can not answer, it is just my curiosity." ”

Wren shrugged his shoulders indifferently, he believed that Haighera's understanding of the golden nobles was far more thorough than that of the golden nobles, a religious organization that has existed for tens of thousands of years and has a complete heritage, and the changes and understanding of this world have long been deeply rooted in the bone marrow, not to mention that Haighra is still the Pope, which is enough for him to access all the internal documents and archives of the church.

"I have the blood of the gods in my veins, you know, we have always called ourselves divine bloodlines, we are descendants of the gods. Since she is a descendant of the gods, isn't it normal to have something special?", chatting, the stout maid like a rough servant threw a plate of barbecue on the table, she glanced at the two strange guests at the table, her lips moved and turned away.

Wren and Hegla looked at each other and smiled, and they both heard the barely audible sound of air coming from the maid's lips—neurosis.

"Gods?", Haighra looked at the large pieces of fat and lean meat that were randomly cut off on the plate, there was not a single bit of food, he had long since abstained from eating meat, "Many people think that gods are lies made up by religion to deceive believers. Do you have any thoughts on this statement?"

The two seem to be chatting about meaningless things for a while, but this is actually a limited mutual temptation between the two sides. It is okay to say that it is cooperation, and it is okay to say that it is a transaction, but whether it is cooperation or transaction, both parties must ensure that the positions of both parties are basically the same, otherwise there will be no cooperation and transaction.

Wren didn't think about it, and blurted out, "That's a lie from the rulers!", this sentence was very resolute and affirmative, Heighla bowed slightly, looked at Wren with a smile, and motioned for him to continue, "Religion and political power are actually exactly the same in essence, but the methods and processes are different. In the final analysis, both religion and political power are fighting for it, for the people. ”

"Religion needs to use faith and people's reverence for the gods to win over more believers. As for the political power, it also needs to be recognized and followed by more people through its rule and local governance. That's where the biggest disagreement lies, you want to have more believers, but the royal family doesn't think it's in the ruler's interest to have more believers, so they have to do something to interfere with changing the place of religion in people's minds. ”

"I think atheism is naturally the most perfect way to put it. ”

Heighla couldn't help but pat his hands and praise, "People say that the Marquis of Rennes is a very intelligent and wise man, and this rumor is really not just a rumor. You are right, this is where the contradiction between synthesis and the regime lies. In his heart, Hegla didn't just look up to Wren, his words directly opened the high-sounding lie, exposing the contradiction between religion and political power.

Both sides are competing for population, and whoever has a larger population base will speak louder. Why was the church able to rule in ancient times? It is nothing more than that everyone is a believer, including the crown princes and emperors of various empires at that time, they are all staunch theists, they all firmly believe in the gospel spread by the church, and they also firmly believe that their piety will be rewarded eventually.

So in this world of all believers, the Pope is not the Pope, but the Pope. All emperors who want to rule their people justifiably also need religious approval.

Even the change of emperors requires a religious nod and crown.

And all this, until the ebb tide began to appear, until groups and generations of ambitious emperors began to jointly promote atheism, the beauty of **** was completely broken.

In fact, the church itself also has a great responsibility in this.

Although the church is a religious organization, it is an organization of a group of believers, and it claims to be the spokesman of God. But at the end of the day, whether it was the cardinals or the pope and the pope at the time, they were still human beings. As long as we are human beings, it is impossible not to make mistakes, and it is impossible to achieve true "emptiness" and complete "goodness". Of all the races that possess wisdom, the selfishness and desires of this race are also the heaviest.

There was a time when the church was almost corrupted by power, wealth, and beauty in vanity and swelling, and the ambitious kings and emperors seized the opportunity to overthrow the church that weighed on their heads.

Summing up the successes and mistakes of countless predecessors, religious organizations have been holding back and accumulating strength in the last few thousand years. They can't really bow down to the worldly power, knowing that these emperors were once their servants. No matter how bad the master is, he will not bend down to his servants.

Within the Orlando Empire, the struggle between religion and power has reached the point where both sides are at the end of the mountain, and neither the church nor the royal family, which represents the current rulers, can make a more obvious breakthrough. So the Pope broke with the policies of previous generations of popes and jumped straight out of this backwater. When it comes to the question of faith, it is clear that the Byronic Empire had a much larger scope and a more perfect audience.

In order to create a common ground between the various races, the Byronic royal family sacrificed the banner of religion, and in the Byronic Empire, almost all intelligent beings were followers of the goddess of nature. It is precisely because of this that the contradictions between the various races have not developed to an uncontrollable level, and have always been in the grip of religion and political power.

But in Heigla's view, the believers of the goddess of nature are clearly blasphemous, and they bring the divine power under the imperial power, which is a blasphemy against the gods, a blasphemy against the faith, and it is not desirable. Therefore, the purpose of his trip was to exterminate those blasphemous heretics in the Byron Empire and establish a new faith. He firmly believes that once the Church of Light replaces the Goddess of Nature Shrine and becomes Byron's "state religion", **** will no longer be the fantasy of glory for countless generations, and will truly enter reality from the beautiful fantasy.

It may be a long process that will take generations, and Heighra himself will not see the day coming. But he did not hesitate in the slightest, just as the church has survived from the age of mythology to the present day, there are always those who have to sacrifice for the sake of the church, for the sake of the legacy, for the great glory and for the gospel of God the Father.

These sacrifices are worth it!

After pondering for a while, Heghera exhaled a breath of turbidity, shook his head with a smile, and looked at Wren with some ease, "Then Marquis Wren, what do you think of religion?"

This is a very acute question, and at the same time, it is also a necessary foundation for whether the two sides can cooperate in the future.

Wren crossed his legs, his hands naturally pressed on the armrests on both sides of the chair, his index fingers clasped together, and his thumb gently rubbed the ring from another world, "In my eyes, religion is the most effective weapon and means to unify and rule the common people, in fact, religion and political power, since there are so many similarities between each other, why can't they be combined?"

"How do you say that word......

He stretched out the index finger of his right hand, and uttered a word that even Hegla had never dreamed of coming out of the mouth of a nobleman, with great confidence and composure:

“****”

Wren continued, "It seems to me that the regime is unwilling to give to religion and bow down to religion. And religion is not willing to bow to the regime and become a tool for the regime to rule over the people. Okay, then let's find a balance point that is acceptable to both parties, and this balance point is ****. As long as this can be achieved, then both the imperial power and the divine power will get what they want, and there will be no contradictions and conflicts with each other, don't you say?"

Heighla pointed at Wren and said with a smile: "I appreciate your courage and audacity, you said things that all nobles dare not say, but there is still a question in this, who will call the shots and who will follow?", he said with a dumb smile, "If this problem is not solved, all good prospects will eventually become a bubble in the water." ”