After all, it was an interview, of course Zhao Zhen couldn't exchange Tian Huangshi's experience with Fan Ning, he gave Wen Yanbo a look, Wen Yanbo was interested, and continued to ask: "Please explain your strategy of enriching the people in concise language!" ”

Fanning sighed and said: "My grandfather gave birth to four sons, but he likes my fourth uncle the most, and he wants to leave all the family property to my fourth uncle, although my father, second uncle, and third uncle dare not be dissatisfied with my grandfather, but my mother is not happy, and my second aunt is not happy, and the third uncle even went to be a son-in-law, and a large family fights around that little land all day long, even my fourth uncle is dissatisfied, and my grandfather's life is very sad........"

Everyone heard it, Fanning used family affairs as a metaphor for state affairs, although it was interesting, but wasn't it a bit ridiculous?

Everyone secretly glanced at Zhao Zhen, the son of heaven, and saw that he seemed to listen to it with relish, so he was silent, Wen Yanbo was about to speak, but Zhao Zhen waved his hand, "Let him continue!" ”

Fanning continued: "Later, I suggested that my father change his career to become a doctor, he learned a medicine to treat bruises when he was young, it was very effective, the second uncle also changed his career to the ornamental stone business, the third uncle's father-in-law died last year, he became the pillar of the family, and now the life of the family has greatly improved, and no one cares about my grandfather's meager land, and my mother often visits my grandmother, and the family has become harmonious."

The policy of enriching the people is actually two words, pioneering, everyone works together to create wealth, the various contradictions of the Great Song Dynasty will naturally disappear, the country will become strong, the people will become rich, the reformists can exert their hands and feet in the new world, and the interests of the conservatives will not be harmed. ”

Pang Ji is really a little worried, if it is an ordinary boy and a scholar who expounds on reformists and conservatives here, it can also be said that he is young and ignorant, but Fan Ning is Fan Zhongyan's cousin, and he is here to expound political ideas, will he be too sensitive?

However, Pang Ji also found that what Fan Ning said was not Fan Zhongyan's political philosophy, and did not emphasize innovation, but emphasized innovation.

Fan Ning didn't continue, and Wen Yanbo couldn't stop, he felt that the Son of Heaven seemed to have something to say.

Sure enough, Zhao Zhen groaned and said: "It is said that governing a big country is like cooking a small fresh, but the 80 million population of the Great Song Dynasty is not your family, and you can expand your wealth if you want to, where is the wealth first?" How do you explain this question? ”

Fanning continued: "If Your Majesty allows it, I can give two examples. ”

"You say, I'm right!"

Fanning continued: "Everyone knows that the yield of rice is large, and one acre of land can harvest thousands of catties, while the yield of wheat and corn is very low, and if the light and heat are enough, you can harvest three crops a year, like Lingnan and Jiaozhi, where rice can be harvested for three seasons, and if you go further south, there is endless land and forests over there, no less than our territory of the Great Song Dynasty, and there is no one to live in, only some natives."

If the Great Song Dynasty opened up millions of hectares of land overseas and distributed them to the landless peasants free of charge, would this be a kind of wealth? Not to mention, Penghu, hundreds of miles overseas of Fuzhou, has already been settled by Han people, and Liuqiu Island is a land of treasures, so it is completely possible to relocate some landless displaced people there, so that they can have land to plant and have their own property, is it not to reduce the burden on the imperial court? Once the Great Song Dynasty was rich in food and materials, the imperial court would be able to print more jiaozi, and the pressure on the imperial court would be greatly reduced? ”

Zhao Zhen smiled slightly, "You mean that the north should stop planting wheat and corn, and go all out to grow rice, so what can be planted on such a vast land in the north, do you turn it into a horse farm?" ”

Fanning shook his head, "This is actually the second example that the students want to give, the students heard that the king of Qiuci came to meet the Celestial Empire last year, and His Majesty knows that there is a crop on the Qiuci side, which can make a big difference." ”

Wen Yanbo said: "King Qiuzi visited the Celestial Empire last year and paid tribute to the wine made from hundreds of jars of grapes, and grapes are abundant over there, do you mean grapes?" ”

Fanning shook his head, "The student is talking about cotton!" ”

"Cotton?"

Wen Yanbo was stunned, "You mean kapok?" ”

"The cotton that the students are talking about actually refers to the white silk cloth of the Tang Dynasty, the white silk cloth is woven from cotton, produced in the Western Regions, very expensive, a horse is worth thousands of dollars, but in fact, cotton is produced in Tianzhu, it is very common in Tianzhu, cotton can be woven into cloth, far more comfortable than linen.

In winter, cotton can be used as bedding, cotton clothing, very warm, can completely replace sheepskin, cotton production is very large, if a large number of cotton is planted in the north, it can completely solve the problem of people's clothing, and will promote the emergence of many large textile workshops, women also work, earn money to support their families, this is not the way to enrich the people? ”

Fanning's words made the hall silent, if Fanning just expounded the theory, everyone might be able to refute a few words, but he took out a cotton that no one had ever seen to talk about things, which is really a bit difficult to refute.

Wen Yanbo glanced at the Son of Heaven, is it time to end the interview?

Zhao Zhen was in deep thought, he didn't see Wen Yanbo's gaze request, and he asked everyone again: "I have also heard of the appearance of white silk cloth in the Tang Dynasty, and there is such a thing in the Great Song Dynasty at present?" ”

Song Zhen bowed slightly and said: "Your Majesty, the Great Song Dynasty silk production is very large, which can fully meet the clothing needs of the middle and upper class people, as for the people at the bottom, there is fine linen cloth to use, so no one needs this expensive and impractical white silk cloth." ”

"Have you seen cotton?" Zhao Zhen asked with a smile again.

Everyone shook their heads, and at this time, Fan Ning bowed down and said, "Your Majesty, the student collected it in the Huren shop in the capital at the end of last year and got some cotton, and in order to keep warm, the student sewed it into a bijia, and now wears it on the student." ”

Zhao Zhen laughed, "It seems that you came prepared!" ”

Fan Ning also smiled: "Instead of saying a thousand words, it is better to do a thing, and the students are willing to let His Majesty take a look!" ”

Zhao Zhen nodded, and said to the waiter next to him: "Reward Fan Ning with a fur fur and let him replace the armor!" ”

The chamberlain led Fan Ning outside to change clothes, Zhao Zhen said to Pang Ji seriously: "Fan Ning gives me a sense of freshness every time he comes forward, in fact, his words are also reasonable, instead of reformists and conservatives fighting for some interests, it is better for everyone to unite and create greater wealth, at that time, the country will be strong and the people will be rich, and it will not harm the interests of the existing people, I appreciate this line of thinking, and his words have opened a new window for me." ”

Everyone was secretly surprised, they didn't expect the Son of Heaven to take Fanning's words so seriously, but everyone also admitted that Fanning's words did give people a refreshing feeling.

Pang Ji said with a smile: "Actually, Fan Ning said that the Weichen of the big island of Liuqiu has also heard that using this big island to settle the landless homeless, as long as you can overcome the influence of the miasma, you can give it a try." ”

Wen Yanbo also smiled and said: "Miasma is not a problem, Lingnan is rich in experience, Wechen also considered this matter a few years ago, since there are many Han people on the Penghu Islands, Wechen suggested that the government should be set up on Penghu Island first, and then, gradually move the Han people to Liuqiu Island, five or six years later, I believe there will be big changes there." ”

"Yes, consider setting up Penghu County, and the Governor of this matter will come up with a plan as soon as possible!" Zhao Zhen made a final decision, and took the opportunity of today's interview to determine a major event.

At this time, the chamberlain led Fanning back, and the chamberlain held a plate in his hand, in which was placed a sleeveless armor, black satin fabric, which looked puffy and fluffy, which was a little different.

Ordinary people wear jackets and bedding in winter, many of which are filled with kapok fibers, and cotton will not be promoted locally until the Song and Yuan dynasties, and as for the large-scale promotion and planting of the whole country, it is the result of Zhu Yuanzhang's compulsory order.

Zhao Zhen looked at the bijia in the wooden plate and said with a smile: "If I want to see cotton, I have to cut it!" ”

"Your Majesty, please!"

Zhao Zhen picked up a pair of scissors, cut the bijia directly, shook it slightly, and clusters of white cotton rolled out of the bijia, Zhao Zhen picked up a ball and looked at it, his eyes were full of amazement, and he asked the waiter to show the cotton in the wooden plate to the ministers.

Pang Ji obviously had a little knowledge, he gently rubbed the cotton and said with a smile: "It is thicker and finer than kapok, I don't know how to grow it, how many catties per mu yield?" ”

Fan Ning bowed down and said: "Back to Pang Xiangguo, it is a low shrub, one mu produces about five or six hundred catties of cotton, likes sufficient sunlight, is more drought tolerant, and is very suitable for planting in Hebei and the Central Plains." ”

"How much cotton do I need for a winter coat?" Wen Yanbo asked again.

"A winter coat is about one catty, a bedding, two catties are enough, and you can also spin and weave cloth, which is much more comfortable than linen clothes, and has a great role in improving the lives of the people at the bottom."

Fan Ning said to Zhao Zhen again: "Your Majesty, the strategy of enriching the people is nothing more than food, clothing, housing and transportation, cotton is only one of the points, as long as you do a good job in this regard, let cotton appear more and more, the students believe that after more than ten years, the Great Song Dynasty will inevitably have a good situation of strengthening the country and making the people rich!" ”

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