Early the next morning, Fan Ning came to Yingtianfuya, he just went to his official room and sat down, and Wang Anshi walked in quickly, Wang Anshi came in so hurriedly in Fan Ning's expectations, it is estimated that Gongsun Xuance has already told him about Yucheng County.

Fanning wants to listen to Wang Anshi's explanation?

"Mr. Gongsun has already talked to me about the matter in Yucheng County." As soon as he entered the door, Wang Anshi went straight to the point.

"Sit down and talk!" Fan Ning waved his hand and invited Wang Anshi to sit down.

At this time, the tea boy came in and served them tea.

Fan Ning said unhurriedly: "The matter in Yucheng County was met by chance when we came back, and the description of the tea shack shopkeeper is only one side, we can't use this as the basis for judgment, but if the matter is true, then the problem is serious, what does the general judge think?" ”

Wang Anshi nodded, "Fujun is right, when we promulgated the Baojia Law, we made clear provisions on the expenses of Du Baozheng, which were subsidized by the county government, and there may be cases where individual counties did not subsidize in time, resulting in Baozheng apportioning the expenses to the farmers, which I do not deny." ”

Wang Anshi pondered for a while and said: "I thought about it all night last night, can we change our thinking, and turn Du Baozheng into a kind of errand service, which is served by the big families in each township in turn, and the county no longer subsidizes, but exempts Du Baozheng and his family from labor and the land endowment of the year, as compensation for them to serve as Du Baozheng and Baozheng, and then set up a reporting system. ”

Fan Ning smiled slightly: "The second idea of the general judgment is feasible, if it is only tried in Yingtianfu, I don't think the problem is big, but if it is promoted in all states in the world, I think the problem will come out." ”

"What does the Mansion think will go wrong?"

Fan Ning said lightly: "The method just said in the general judgment is to prevent Du Baozheng from abusing power for personal gain, in fact, what I am worried about is not Du Baozheng, but the county government, once Du Baozheng becomes a tool for the county government to develop financial resources, how can we prevent it?" ”

"The people can go to the state government to complain, or even go to the court to file a lawsuit!"

"What should the county government do if they retaliate against the farmers? What if the state and county are in a mess? What if the officials protect each other? Fanning unceremoniously targeted Wang Anshi.

Wang Anshi said for a while: "Everyone is an official who has read the book of sages, governing the country and leveling the world is the ambition in the chest of every person who reads, I believe that most officials are upright, only a few officials will be corrupt and bend the law." ”

Fan Ning also felt that his tone was too blunt, he softened his tone and said: "Brother Jiefu, it's not that I don't support the change of the law, but we have to consider the risk of the system, the state and county have been suppressed for many years, once the change of the law gives them a loophole in the system, they will not hesitate to take advantage of it, the Baojia Law is such an example, the people will call Du Baozheng Baoya, which shows that in the eyes of the people, Du Baozheng has also become a kind of official, with corresponding power." ”

After a pause, Fan Ning said earnestly: "We must reflect on why the phenomenon of protecting the government appears, isn't it that the county government deliberately indulges and turns the security government into an extension of the power of the county government?" ”

"What does Nafu Jun mean is that the armor protection law is a failure and should be canceled?"

"Exactly! Any change that shakes the existing system of power cannot be implemented, and moreover, the change must not give the prefectures and counties any opportunity to expand their financial resources. ”

"If you don't try the variability, how do you know it won't work? First of all, I have to try it, if I find that it is wrong, and then I will correct it, I can't just imagine it, think that it is a law that harms the people, and then I will not move forward, and just watch the Great Song Dynasty rot? Wang Anshi's tone also became intense.

"Wang Tong judged, change the law to find the right entry point, can not blindly pave the way in an all-round way, many years ago I said, the change of the law must first succeed at a certain point, so that the court can taste the sweetness, there will be more people to support, we change the law in the army, reduce the army, so that the burden of the imperial court's military expenditure will be reduced, greatly improve the court's financial expenditure, this is a good entry point, the beginning of the win, the back will form a virtuous circle."

Wang Anshi said coldly: "If the finances of the imperial court improve, I am afraid that there will be no motivation to change the law, and the change will not be carried out. If the Qin State hadn't been suppressed by the six eastern countries, how could there be a Shang Yang change? If it weren't for the division of feudal towns and the dictatorship of eunuchs, the Tang Dynasty would be dead, how could there be 'Yongzhen Innovation'? Whenever there is a little leeway in the imperial court, no one is willing to take responsibility and implement changes in the law, and if this continues, the drawbacks of the Great Song Dynasty will only become deeper and deeper, and it will become more and more difficult to change. ”

"Everyone knows the disadvantages of the Great Song Dynasty, even the officials know that the problem of three redundancies is serious, you and I know better, I am not against changing the law, the key is how to change? Is it to directly take the medicine of the tiger and wolf to cure the disease and kill people, or to regulate first and then treat the disease? I have always believed that it is necessary to make the pie bigger, and constantly eliminate the old evils in the process of distributing the new pie, if one day, the profits of industry and commerce far exceed the tax on the field tax, then it is not impossible to cancel the peasants' land endowment, if one day, the Great Song Dynasty officials are all over the country, then we will still worry that there are too few officials, too few troops, and the problem of redundant officials and redundant soldiers will not be slowly solved? ”

Wang Anshi shook his head, "Fujun, it's not me who is qualified, I have done it step by step from the county order to today, I know better than you about the situation at the bottom, and I also know more about the mentality of the people, if you want to do something, you must pay the price, I also admit that there will be disadvantages to changing the law, but as long as the advantages outweigh the disadvantages, then we should stick to it, keep trying, keep correcting, we will always find a right path, if you look forward and backward like you, blindly consider compromise and stability, then you really can't do things, it's better to stay the same, I firmly believe that my plan for changing the law is the result of countless experiences that have been accumulated, and I must not dismiss the entire forest by making partial generalizations. ”

Fan Ning still wanted to persuade again, Wang Anshi got up and said: "I'll go to Yucheng County now, I want to find out about that matter, if there are drawbacks in the Baojia Law, I will turn Du Baozheng into an errand service, in short, the law must be persistent, if Ying Tianfu can't do it, I will go to other state capitals to experiment." ”

With that, he arched his hand to Fanning, turned and walked away quickly.

Looking at Wang Anshi's distant back, Fan Ning was really speechless, and Wang Anshi's stubbornness also made him understand, seeing that the differences between them were getting bigger and bigger, at first it was a difference in method, and now it is gradually becoming a difference in principle.

Wang Anshi was well aware of the drawbacks of the armor protection law, but he still insisted on implementing it, and Fanning began to be a little suspicious that Wang Anshi wanted to sacrifice the interests of the rich peasants.

After a fruitless debate with Wang Anshi, Fan Ning no longer cared about Ying Tianfu's changes, and the attitude of the Yucheng County Ya was like a mirror, no one investigated, Yucheng County wanted to share the spoils, and someone investigated, so it became the county government to severely punish the unauthorized apportionment, and it was meaningless for Wang Anshi to go to investigate.

Fan Ning didn't want to know the result, he put all his energy on the assembly of the various Xiang troops, and ten days later, Fan Ning received a notice from the Privy Council that he was allowed to lead 20,000 Xiang troops into Beijing, the so-called clean entry into Beijing, that is, soldiers are not allowed to carry any weapons when entering Beijing.

"Fujun, the results of Yucheng County's self-inspection have come out."

The day before Fanning left for Beijing, Gongsun Xuance put a self-examination report on Fanning's desk.

"Without the consent of the county government, Luo Yuanwai apportioned 335 yuan of expenses without authorization, and these expenses were privately embezzled by Luo Yuanwai, and now they have been confiscated by the county government!"

"Confiscation?"

Fan Ning sneered, "Why didn't it return to the original owner?" ”

Gongsun Xuance shook his head, "Generally, it will not be returned, there is no precedent, and most of the county government offices are confiscated to supplement the county government funds." ”

Fan Ning asked quietly, "What did Wang Tongju say?" ”

"Wang Tongju hopes that this is just an isolated phenomenon, and requires all counties to self-examine, and once a similar phenomenon is found, it must be severely punished!"

It can only be like this, Fan Ning can't think of any other means to prevent Wang Anshi.

"Do you think it will work?" Gongsun Xuance asked cautiously.

"Ying Tianfu may succeed, after all, there are only seven counties, and Wang Tongju can still manage it, but there are hundreds of counties in the world, and the situation is different, forget it, I don't want to persuade him, let him go!"

"Will Nafu-kun come back?"

Fanning shook his head, "I don't know, if this parade is successful, it means that the army has successfully changed the law, and everyone who participates in the change will be rewarded, and I will probably not stay in Yingtianfu." ”