Hong Yan's office is fully heated, and after a simple working meal, Hong Yan and Chen Youwei sit opposite each other on the soft sofa.

Hong Yan, who is over sixty years old, is full of energy, and even in front of a young man like Chen Youwei, he still maintains a hearty and decisive style, which makes people secretly praise.

Chen Youwei listened to Hong Yan's question about state-owned enterprises, and his expression was solemn, and in front of the vice premier of the Government Affairs Yuan, who is in charge of China's national economic work, relevant topics must definitely be carefully considered, and they must not talk nonsense.

If it was Chen Youwei in the past, or he did not have much political experience in another life, he still had too much slander for major policies such as the reform of state-owned enterprises that brought great pain to Chinese society. Then the current Chen Youwei will definitely not be so superficial and one-sided.

In fact, many things in the world are like this, and from the perspective of hindsight, there are 10,000 reasons to give that thing to the bloody head of criticism. However, if he puts himself in the position of the decision-maker at that time, I am afraid that he has 10,000 reasons to do so.

In another life, Chen Youwei didn't know why the top leaders of Huaxia wanted to adopt that one-size-fits-all model to vigorously promote the reform of state-owned enterprises, but from the height he is at now, he knew that he would make such a tangled action, I am afraid that the struggle in the depths of Hong Yan's heart at that time was also extremely fierce.

"Tell me what you think about the reform of state-owned enterprises, as if we were chatting in private."

Hong Yan got up and took out a box of cigarettes from the desk drawer, took out one and handed it to Chen Youwei, lit it himself, and said with a faint smile: "I know that the current state-owned enterprise reform measures in Daoyi City have a very good effect, don't hide good things!" ”

Chen Youwei smiled and picked up the water bottle next to the coffee table to refill Hong Yan's teacup, sat down and said: "Strictly speaking, the reform of state-owned enterprises in Yicheng has been carried out a little late, but the economic foundation of Yicheng is weak, and we can only wait until the conditions are ripe to carry out drastic measures. ”

Hong Yan waved his hand and said with a hearty smile: "The idea of the reform of state-owned enterprises in Yicheng is somewhat interesting, and I am asking the talented people in the Policy Research Office of the Government Council to study it, but with you, I want to hear your original intention and specific ideas for engaging in that model." ”

"Yicheng's idea is very simple, that is, to reorganize the assets of all state-owned units in the jurisdiction and set up a special state-owned assets operation and investment company. The expansion of capital in those excellent assets gives them a more space for development, and those assets that are heavily indebted will naturally withdraw from the stage of history. ”

Chen Youwei took a sip of his cigarette, squinted his eyes slightly and said in a deep voice: "Generally speaking, the biggest asset of state-owned enterprises in the urban area is actually their superior geographical location, and it is precisely so, through the asset restructuring of the investment company will auction the original prime location of these state-owned enterprises in sections, so as to obtain huge assets can not only arrange the pension and pension arrangements of the employees of the state-owned enterprises that have been combined, but also invest in the excellent assets that are in urgent need of funds to expand the production line, which is more than enough." ”

A light flashed in Hong Yan's eyes, and he nodded with interest and asked: "According to the situation you said, it is equivalent to Yicheng City integrating all the state-owned enterprises that originally belonged to the urban area into a state-owned group company for asset restructuring, so that Yicheng has a large-scale state-owned enterprise complex that can be called a giant, isn't it?" ”

"Strictly speaking, Yicheng has a new type of state-owned enterprise with a strict division of labor and supervision procedures under a modern management system."

Chen Youwei said word by word: "Compared with the state-owned units that are small and the operation of the whole factory is basically completely complete and the director of the factory alone makes the decision, and the business situation is completely dependent on the sky, the state-owned enterprises after the reorganization of Yicheng are fundamentally a more standardized and scientific modern formal enterprise business model. ”

"Some people say that there are so many small state-owned enterprises across the country, and it is completely up to our government to solve the problem, not to mention, more is useless, it is better to leave it to the market to solve. What do you think of this statement? The cigarette butt in Hong Yan's hand flickered, and it could be seen that his heart was far from being as calm as it seemed.

Chen Youwei looked at Hong Yan with a smile, trying to relax the atmosphere of the conversation, and said with a smile: "Hehe, this kind of idea sounds very convenient, but I'm afraid this kind of completely hands-off approach is a little inappropriate." ”

Hong Yan's bright eyes stared at Chen Youwei and said in a deep voice: "The year before last, the Third Plenary Session of the 18th Central Committee of the Communist Party of China put forward the concept of socialist market economy. ”

Putting away the smile on his face, Chen Youwei said with a cold gaze: "Everything has a gradual process, blindly pushing all the problems to the so-called good things on the market, our government is of course relaxed for a while, but the market cannot cure all diseases." In the transition period of our huge planned economy to a market economy, the result of a one-size-fits-all approach can only cause great chaos to this market and even society. ”

This kind of behavior is like throwing some valuables with damaged packaging out of the window, the original intention of the owner is to let the bright sunlight outside to let it shine, and then better preserve. But I don't want those who pass by to regard those valuables as ownerless, and the result is naturally conceivable, and when the owner wants to find those valuables again, he finds that he has long been unable to find them and has suffered heavy losses. ”

Chen Youwei snuffed out the cigarette butt in his hand, took two sips of the teacup, stared at the thoughtful Hong Yan with burning eyes, and said solemnly: "Our Huaxia is a socialist country, and the public ownership development model represented by state-owned enterprises is, after all, the foundation of our socialist country. In the current environment of reform and opening up, many state-owned enterprises are facing a very difficult situation, but I absolutely cannot agree with the practice of packaging them all away! ”

"That's right, but the problem now is that the problem of state-owned enterprises has become a major problem that seriously hinders the development of the whole country, and the problem of state-owned enterprises has now reached the point where it must be rectified." Hong Yan looked at Chen Youwei lightly and said.

"Reform is naturally necessary, and what I oppose is a one-size-fits-all blind nonsense!"

Since he has said this, Chen Youwei no longer hides it, and directly clarifies his views: "I think that the national level should pay more attention to those industries with larger assets and more related to the national strategy, as for small and medium-sized state-owned enterprises, they can learn from the Yicheng model to carry out asset integration in small steps." ”

Chen Youwei said with burning eyes: "Although the state has cracked down on corruption since last year, if we blindly throw out all the things of state-owned enterprise reform, to put it mildly, it is simply throwing a piece of fat into the mouths of those hungry wolves who are insatiable and bold." ”

"At that time, the vast amount of state-owned assets will be carved up by those greedy local officials and the leaders within the enterprises, and I am afraid that the country and society will be left with nothing but hundreds of millions of angry and unemployed workers!" The more Chen Youwei spoke, the more excited he became, and he completely forgot that this was in Hong Yan's vice premier's office.

There was silence in the spacious office, and Chen Youwei, who had returned to normal, secretly regretted it, picked up the teacup and silently sipped it to hide the impulse just now.

Hong Yan had a serious face, and his solemn eyes showed that he had completely listened to Chen Youwei's unpleasant words just now.

The office door was gently pushed open, and Qiu Zheng walked up to Hong Yan and reminded softly: "Chief, the time is up, and the comrades of the Planning and Economic Commission outside are already waiting." ”

Hong Yan raised his wrist to look at the time, and said to Qiu Zheng: "Let them wait a little longer, and arrange another time if it doesn't work." ”

Qiu Zheng looked at Chen Youwei, who was sitting opposite him and drinking tea by himself, and finally nodded after a little hesitation: "Okay, I'll arrange it for the evening, right?" ”

Hong Yan nodded silently, Qiu Zheng took a deep look at Chen Youwei and turned to leave.

"Go on." Hong Yan waved his hand and motioned for Chen Youwei to continue.

Chen Youwei is not the kind of person who drags mud and water, and the issue of state-owned enterprise reform has obviously become the top priority of Hong Yan's attention, and he has been holding back in the capital for a year, and he naturally has the urge to discuss and exchange with others.

As the vice premier in charge of the economy in the Government Council, Hong Yan is a real expert in the economy, and Chen Youwei will naturally not give up such a rare opportunity.

"Judging from the situation of the past 20 years of reform and opening up, the biggest problem that we have shown in the period of transition from planning the economy to the market economy is that we either overmanage it or let it go too loosely, which also leads to the fact that when the national economy is specifically regulated and controlled at the macro level, it is very easy for the national economy to have big ups and downs, either the economy is overheated or the cause of economic deflation."

Chen Youwei's profound eyes passed through the curling green smoke, and he sighed: "Since the speech of the leader of the southern tour on the first day of '92, the country's economy has suddenly changed from a pool of stagnant water to a state of boiling, and the economic development that was originally suppressed for various reasons has suddenly become a blowout. This should be a good thing, but the result of too much momentum can only lead to chaos in the entire market, and this is exactly the economic overheating has already occurred, and the consequences of such things that go against the normal economic laws can be imagined. I think this is also a headache for you, Vice Premier Hong. ”

"So your point of view is ......" Hong Yan snuffed out a cigarette lit in his hand, and his eyes under the thick sword eyebrows were unusually bright.

"Step by step!"

Chen Youwei said calmly: "After more than two years of effective governance by Vice Premier Hong, the momentum of overheating in China's national economy has been significantly curbed. Now that this boiling target has been controlled, the action of drawing wages from the bottom of the kettle can be completely planned step by step. ”

"Looking at our experience of policy mistakes since the founding of the People's Republic of China, they are basically the result of being too anxious and blindly moving. I always think that although I don't know what kind of country was so radical at that time, it would be good if we could have slowed down at that time. ”

"You kid really dare to say, let your little guy teach me a good lesson as an old man, it seems that your kid is not suffocating in the capital?" Chen Youwei's sigh made Hong Yan laugh dumbly, and finally raised the key issue of the meeting.