"Next, let's talk about Greece and Persia. I believe that there is no doubt that both Greece and Persia are in a stage of rapid development, and that Greek magic is the best in the world, and that philosophy, geometry, theoretical knowledge and technology have developed far more than any other country. This is not a boast, but something that has actually happened in the past few decades. ”

Almost all nodded.

Su Ye continued: "What is certain is that Persia is also developing at a high speed, but please note that the development of Persia and the development of Greece are not in the same direction. Greece developed in magic, philosophy, geometry, knowledge, and technology, and Persia also made efforts in this area, but the two places where Persian resources were used the most were war and luxury, and then it was the turn of magic and knowledge. No one can deny this, right? ”

Everyone agreed.

"It is true that war and territorial expansion can bring wealth to a country, and war can also greatly promote technological innovation, but the problem is that as the investment in war increases, the more investment in war after reaching a certain point, the final return is gradually diminishing. The simplest example, when we only have 100 Golden Eagles all over our body, it takes a month to earn a new 100 Golden Eagles, and we will be very happy, which is a typical low consumption and high development. But when we have 100 million Golden Eagles, we spend a month earning 100 Golden Eagles, and we will flip the table and curse, because this is a typical high consumption and low development. ”

Everyone smiled and nodded, and the metaphor was very vivid.

"Not to mention luxury, the Persians are extravagant, and their excellent magicians and craftsmen spend their energy on making precious stones and making gold and silver jewelry, but what about us Greeks? We are making new household utensils, we are researching new paper, we are developing seafaring technology, we are exploring the sky, the starry sky, the sea, philosophy, magic, technology, these fields that will inevitably grow explosively after a long period of accumulation. ”

"Moreover, with the presence of gods, there has been no large-scale infighting between our Greek city-states for many years, and internal consumption has been reduced to a minimum."

"To sum up, Greece is a country with low consumption and high development, while Persia is a country with high consumption and high development. So, let me ask you again, in the long run, will the future belong to Persia or Greece? ”

"Greece!"

Loud applause rang out in the chamber.

Clemela whispered, "Teacher Su Ye is too powerful. ”

Palos nodded slightly, and was about to continue, but suddenly stopped, raised his head with his chest straight, and glanced at Su Ye secretly.

Su Ye smiled: "I can only say that from this point of view, with this method, the future belongs to Greece, but if you look at it from other angles, the result may not be." Even, in Greece is in the stage of 'low consumption and high development', the future belongs to Greece. However, if one day, there is a country that surpasses Greece, such as Rome or Northern Europe, their consumption is lower than Greece, their development is faster than Greece, because consumption development is relative, Greece becomes a country with high consumption and low development, then the future belongs to the new country. ”

"Good, very good, you showed us the bravery of the young man and the wisdom of the magician. So, let's move on to one of the most heated questions we just had, what should we do with Persia? Is it an all-out confrontation, or is it a reduction in confrontation, giving up some of its interests, and making concessions? Larens asked.

Su Ye looked embarrassed.

The teachers laughed, and the discussion was the most intense in the audience.

Those who support all-out confrontation will almost scold those who support concession as traitors, slaves, and kneeling clans.

And those who support concessions, those who almost scold the people of all-out confrontation are stupid and brainless barbarians.

If it hadn't been for Larens calling a halt, both sides would have lashed out.

"Say, if you don't answer, you will fail ten subjects this year." Lahrence laughed.

The teachers laughed too.

Su Ye looked at Neden angrily, he learned from you.

Nedern looked calm, what's the matter with me?

"I've seen your point, say it." Nedern decisively sells his teammates.

"Oh? You already have an opinion? Tell me about it! Aristotle was curious.

In this meeting, Aristotle did not speak, and everyone saw that even he had spoken, and they were even more curious about Su Ye.

Su Ye said helplessly: "Before answering this question, I will ask the two people who had the most fierce quarrel between the two sides just now. Teacher Gregory, you are the main battle faction, so what is the purpose of your all-out attack on Persia? ”

"Of course, in order to defeat Persia, Persia will not be destroyed, and Greece will never be strong." Gregory said.

"Okay, then, Mr. Carderius, you said that while resisting, in order to save Greece, you can sacrifice part of your interests and make peace, then, what is your purpose in suing for peace with Persia?"

"As I said before, in order to accumulate strength, look for opportunities, and finally defeat Persia. You can't lose everything because of the impulse. Caderes said.

Su Ye nodded and said, "Then I'll say it directly." I think that the people on both sides of the opposition are right, but they also ignore a very important issue. ”

"The two sides are concerned about what the other side is 'doing', one side thinks that the other side is retreating, and naturally deduces that the other side is spineless and suspected of surrendering, and then extrapolates backwards, thinking that the other side is on the side of Persia and will eventually harm Greece and think that the other side is the enemy."

"The other side thinks that those who support all-out confrontation are blind and stupid, because war will not solve the real problem, but will make the problem bigger and bigger, and naturally it will be reversed, and the other side's behavior may drag Greece into an endless abyss, and ultimately harm Greece, and also think that it is the enemy."

"The final result will inevitably be that both sides will scold, and even, in order to prove that they are right and the other is wrong, they are hostile to each other, but they forget that our common enemy is Persia outside."

The crowd was silent.

Su Ye continued: "I am different from both sides, I don't pay attention to 'what the two sides are doing', I don't work backwards, I first focus on 'why both sides are doing this'. So why are the two sides sitting here discussing this? It's to protect Greece! To make Greece better! Then it's weird, both of you think the other is harming Greece, but I think both sides are protecting Greece? Think about it carefully, is the other party here harming Greece or helping Greece? ”

The chamber was silent.

"It's true that both sides are helping Greece, and even I almost fell into it." Larens sighed.

Some nodded slightly.

Su Ye said: "That is to say, when the two sides judge each other, they use the wrong order of inference, first look at the surface, and then reverse a wrong cause from the outside in, and finally nail the other party to the wrong wall of sin." But I, or a few people, first look directly for the cause, and then come to the final result from the inside out. We think in different orders, leading to diametrically opposite end results. ”

"That's good, I'm going to take note of it, that's what you said...... Positive order logic, right? Euclid took note of it.

The golden mages were stunned for a moment, glanced at the Sacred Domain masters who were recording, and took out their magic books to record.

Among the Silver Mages, most of them took notes carefully, but there were still a few who were stunned and confused.

After a long while, Larens looked at the people who had finished recording and asked, "So, do you think we should have an all-out confrontation, or should we back down at the same time as the confrontation?" ”

"At the level where the problem occurs, the problem can never be solved, we must penetrate this level, from a deeper level, in order to find a way to solve the problem. To take the simplest example, we feel the itch of our body, and it is good to scratch it. But what happens if we itch a lot and spend a lot of time each day tickling? It must be scratched to make the skin of the whole body red and cracked, but it still can't solve the 'itch'. If we only blame our body for itching, or only blame ourselves for scratching the wrong thing, then we will never solve the problem. What do we actually do? We will break through the 'itch' on the surface, determine that it is a 'disease', and then seek help from a doctor to treat it. After the treatment, we were cured, and we stopped itching, and we didn't scratch. ”

"Itching is the level where the problem occurs, and scratching is the solution to the level of occurrence, but this method can't actually solve the problem. But we found that the deeper layer is 'a certain disease', and then with the treatment of the disease, we can solve the itch and solve the problem. ”

"With this reasoning, we look back, the teachers on both sides, all the logic is 'Persia attacks us, how do we fight back against Persia', that is, the itch comes, we tickle. Remember the question I asked Gregory and Carderyus at the beginning? I added 'Persia' to the question. ”

"I asked Mr. Gregory why we were going to strike Persia in an all-out way, and he replied, of course, to destroy Persia."

"I asked Mr. Carderyus what was the purpose of suing for peace with Persia, and his answer was, to gather strength, to find time, and to defeat Persia."

"It seemed all right, but when I gave up Persia and we thought together, 'Why are we sitting here talking about this?' I said that we were all here to protect Greece, and we took it for granted. So, why is this the case? ”

"Because we are easily attracted to the superficial goals, and forget to explore the deeper goals, we will never solve the problem."

"So, let me ask one last time, what we really want to do in our hearts when we participate in this meeting, is it to protect Greece, or to defeat Persia? Raise your left hand to protect Greece, and raise your right hand to defeat Persia. ”

Larence was the first to raise his left hand.

Afterwards, most people raised their left hand, and only a small number resolutely raised their right hand.

"Very well, all those who raised their right hands, I can tell you the truth, you are tickling and do not want to heal. That is to say, you think that itching is the cause, and you think that solving itching is the goal, but no, curing the disease is the goal. It's like the Persian invasion is just a symptom, but you take it as the cause. And the defeat of Persia is the goal, but in fact, the defeat of Persia is only a means, and our real goal is not to defeat Persia, but to protect Greece and make peace. The two seem to be the same, but they are worlds apart. ”

Some looked displeased.