Chapter 555: The Theory of the First of All Worlds
The man who discovered this cultivation method is in this council chamber.
Su Ye glanced at Aristotle and then at Euclid.
However, there are some things that I can't say, because I am not a mathematics major after all, and I know axiomatization, but it will take quite a long time to write the "Geometric Originals".
What's more, geometry and mathematics are not their main directions.
Su Ye pondered for a long time and said: "The reason why I say that this article is great is not only the theory of proportionality itself, but also the process of proving the theory of proportionality. We know that the great Thales identified the 'proof', then Pythagoras, Parmenides, Plato, and the masters broadened the 'proof', and Eudox, further perfected the proof. However, this proof is only in its infancy. While reading this article, I suddenly remembered the conversation with Aristotle and Euclid, and there were some things in it that we had all talked about. ”
Aristotle pondered for a moment and nodded slightly.
Euclid's face was dazed, and he looked down and quickly flipped through the magic book, but soon he looked up with a look of frustration.
"I don't think I remember the relevant content. Sure enough, you're right, there is no record, it didn't happen. ”
Many teachers laughed, this sentence is only effective for amnesia.
But then, the smiles on the teachers' faces disappeared, and that sentence seemed to work for themselves.
Su Ye smiled and said, "You forgot, but I'll help you remember." However, the conversation between you and me is based on logic, and logic is the main content of my discussion with Aristotle. ”
Aristotle nodded and said, "I am very impressed by the logic you have said, especially the theory of normal order logic, but I always feel that there is something lacking in your logical theory. ”
Su Ye thought that he was lacking.
"It was Aristotle, and I saw at a glance that I was lacking in logic. My logic, which only proposes a concept and direction, does not have a solid foundation and structure. It's like, I drew the shape of the house, but I didn't have the elaborate architectural drawings, and I had to build it. To be honest, I am not able to construct a complete logic with my own limitations. However, I am a very humble person, and I am very good at discovering the good in others, so I have found some similarities in your article and that of Eudox, and I suspect that you actually have a logical concept, but you have not refined it. Su Ye said.
"Oh? Tell me about it. Aristotle's interest was greater.
Su Ye opened an article before Aristotle, circled it, and after reading it, compared it with Eudox's article, and then read it out.
After reading it, everyone looked confused, and Aristotle frowned.
Su Ye said: "You are discussing the content of naturalism, and Eudox is discussing geometry, if you only look at the content, the two paragraphs of your two articles have nothing to do with each other." However, if we penetrate the content layer and enter the structural layer, we will find that this content of the two of you is strikingly similar at the structural level. Like what...... Both of you have a similar structure called a 'premise' before you come to the final result, and you don't draw conclusions out of thin air, but on the basis of 'premises', you draw conclusions. I vaguely feel that you are aware of this. ”
"Yes, after talking to you about logic, I did a simple thought, and I did realize that there is a thing, but I don't know how to name it, and after listening to you, I'm sure, this is the premise! And, not one premise, but at least two premises from which I can sense a wonderful connection. ”
Su Ye secretly praised in his heart that he was the boss who laid the formal logic, so he said excitedly: "It seems that my guess is correct!" You must have understood that before you get the result, you need to have a complete premise, so that you can have a complete logic. However, the specific process still needs a lot of research. I am limited in my abilities, but I am confident that you will succeed. Aristotle, you have to seize this opportunity, you will achieve unprecedented achievements with your research in this direction, and even allow you to achieve the path of legend. ”
"I feel that way too! I even feel that you are simply another me, but in some way surpass me, and sometimes, you are another platonic teacher who not only surpasses me, but also guides me! No, no, no, I don't have time to praise you here, I'm going to study the premise and logic! There was a wonderful power surging within me, and this power told me that what you said was right and that I was feeling right! You can rest assured, once I have the results of my research, I will definitely list you as the first author! ”
Aristotle turned around and walked away, ignoring everyone present.
When Su Ye heard this, he said in his heart that his superficial syllogism was learned from Aristotle, and hurriedly said: "Don't, I just made a guess and asked a question, and you are the one who gave the answer." ”
"Both Socrates and Plato said that sometimes, it is more important to ask a question than to solve it! Don't say it, you are the first author, if you argue again, I won't sign it, only you! ”
Aristotle waved his hand and hurried away.
The teachers and students in the council hall looked at Aristotle's back with envy, and it was not surprising that before long, Aristotle would probably come up with a new theory that would shock the world.
Then, they turned their heads to look at Su Ye.
However, the first author of the new theory turned out to be Su Ye.
Su Ye sighed.
They looked at Su Ye's expression, and were in awe, just now Su Ye not only shirked continuously, but now he got the signature of the first author and the opportunity to be famous for eternity, not only was he not excited, but he also sighed.
This is a noble person.
Su Ye got up to leave, but Euclid jumped out like a rabbit and grabbed Su Ye's sleeve.
"Mine?"
"What's yours?" Su Ye asked.
"You said it had something to do with me, what does it have to do with it?" Euclid Road.
"You said that because you have amnesia, you feel that many things in this world are not important, and if you want to create a theory, you only need to remember a few important knowledge points to deduce a solid theory, and then deduce countless theories from this theory, and even create a great discipline." Su Ye Dao.
"I remember this, I said it!" Euclid nodded.
"I remember too."
"I've heard of it too." Master Larens said.
Teachers responded.
Su Ye glanced at the teachers and said with a smile: "Did he say it when he saw someone?" ”
"When I see people, I say that my ears are calloused."
"However, we all think that Euclid is somewhat whimsical, because this is simply an impossible theory. If this theory is really found, then we human beings will enter an unprecedented great development, and even open up new disciplines one after another. ”
"yes, I don't believe it's too ambitious. I would even go so far as to say that once this theory comes out, even the gods will be jealous. ”
"No, no, no, you look up to the gods, they don't learn human things, they must think it's useless."
"They don't get a perfect score on the test."
A strange smile appeared on the faces of the teachers of the academy, which made some believers look helpless.
However, these magicians are right, the gods really don't care about philosophy and mathematics, and the gods are powerful in strength, not in minds.
It is even said that Zeus prevented the gods from learning some things from humans, because he was afraid that the gods would be influenced by humans and become as depraved as humans.
This is also the reason why many nobles are hostile to magic and philosophy but worship philosophers.
Even God fears philosophers.
"We don't believe that people can create such powerful theories anyway."
"I don't believe it either."
"Euclid definitely can't!"
The teachers joked half-jokingly.
"Wait! Su Ye, you don't believe Euclid, do you? Gregory asked.
"Yes, I just believe in Euclid." Su Ye looked right.
Euclid immediately puffed up his chest and straightened his hat, looking triumphant.
The teachers looked at Su Ye and Euclid like fools.
"Then you talk about it carefully, and we'll listen to it." Larens, who was about to leave, sat back in his chair.
Many immediately spread out their notebooks.
Su Ye fell into deep thought.
In fact, axiomatization is simple to say, to put it simply, it is to find a relatively correct premise or theory that is not self-evident, and then use deductive logic to reason out a relatively correct theory.
But in fact, there is a rigorous way of axiomatization, and even Euclid only completed the preliminary axiomatization, and it was not until more than 2,000 years later that Hilbert established a perfect axiomatic system in the Foundations of Geometry.
Su Ye knew that with his knowledge of geometry and mathematics, if he really put all his energy into this aspect, he could indeed create a complete "Geometric Original", or even surpass the "Geometric Original".
However, how many years are uncertain.
The point is, this is not your own direction.
I want to be promoted to a legend as soon as possible.
In the expectation of everyone, Su Ye said: "Actually, when I discussed this matter with Euclid at the beginning, I didn't think that he could do it, but I think this is a very wonderful possibility, because if someone can do it, the effect on the world will be extremely huge, I believe that even if ordinary people know this thing, they will realize the greatness of this theory." ”
Many nodded.
"However, it can't be." Some of the teachers muttered quietly.
"Every sage and great man has accomplished the impossible. And they didn't stop doing it because others thought it was impossible. We cannot deny any beautiful possibility. Su Ye's face was serious.
"That's a good point!" Euclid was full of spring breeze.
Su Ye glanced at Euclid and said, "Then you can tell me." ”
Euclid looked embarrassed and hurriedly said: "Listen to what you mean, my theory of being the first in the world has something to do with this article by Eudox?" ”
"Euclid, you're pretty good, the theory hasn't come out yet, and you're boasting that you're the first in the world? You go on, I'm gone. "Su Ye is about to leave.
"Don't don't, don't ......" Euclid grabbed Su Ye's arm with a dead face, and his ass fell backwards as if he was tethered to a small mountain.