The Lord of the Forge suddenly changed his words and said, "If we apply the concepts of instinctive man, experienced man and technical man to the gods, what will we see? ”

A god suddenly said: "The gods who created the world are instinctive gods, and the later generation of gods and the second generation of gods are more like experience gods, and the current new generation of gods is a bit like a god of technology, but it is not a complete image, but it is like a transition period from an experience god to a god of technology." ”

"Wait, what does that mean? Doesn't this mean that the progress of the gods has been slower than that of mankind? How is this possible? ”

"What's impossible about that? Su Ye said before, what is that called? Path dependence, the stronger we used to be, the more dependent we are on the old power. Why is humanity able to make rapid progress? Because they had nothing in the past, no burden, no dependence, they could only move forward, and they surpassed us, which is also normal. ”

"I'm against it! I feel that the progress of humanity is accidental. ”

The gods nodded.

Vulcan sighed and said, "Have you forgotten the million-year-long growth curve of human beings drawn by Su Ye? Those millions of years of growth, so many similarities, so many laws and information worth refining, do you only see accidents? Don't you see that instinctive people refine all kinds of accidents, summarize them into necessity, and promote experienced people; Don't you see that experienced people refine all kinds of accidents, summarize them into necessity, and promote them to technical people. Have you learned all your craftsman experience? Tell me now, who made an artifact by chance? ”

The Lord of the Demon Furnace suddenly said, "Haven't you noticed that Su Ye's human growth curve has stopped?" And, stay a thousand years ago. ”

Everyone looked at the magical light curtain in the sky.

Su Ye smiled slightly, and after the growth curve extended a little to the right, it suddenly rose sharply, forming an obvious large steep slope, making the entire curve rise sharply.

"The first great wizard of Egypt was born."

The gods held their breath, their hearts beating noticeably faster.

After a steep rise in the growth curve, it continued to grow on a gentle slope, and soon a huge steep slope appeared.

"Later, Master Thales created philosophy and magic."

Then, there is another small steep slope.

"The Pythagorean school, founded."

A small steep slope joins together to form a high-flying curve.

Eventually, time stands still in the year of Plato's death.

The gods stared blankly at the entire human growth curve, and an indescribable strange feeling rose in their hearts.

It's as if I've witnessed the growth of human beings.

It's as if humanity is the darling of the will of the infinite plane.

It's as if the growth of human beings is going very well.

It's as if everything is inevitable.

Su Yedao: "We are now cutting off the human growth curve, refining the era of instinct, the era of experience and the age of technology separately, so that the three slope curves have the same width." ”

In Su Ye's words, three curves flew out and appeared on the light curtain, with the same width.

Three slopes that gradually rise from left to right appear in front of the gods.

The gods were stunned.

Because, the curves of the three eras with a huge gap and the three eras that are difficult to juxtapose are extremely similar.

The three single-dismantled curves are all gentle slopes in the early stage, and the slopes in the last stage are steeply raised, and the highest point is ten times that of the previous stage.

What's even more bizarre is that the curves of these three eras are also highly similar to the total growth curve of mankind!

Su Ye said slowly: "If we cut the growth curve of each era again, we will find that a large number of similar slopes will be born, which are incredibly beautiful. ”

"When we get here, we can go back to the question I said earlier."

"If we look at it from an individual point of view, there will be geniuses, great sages, and great wisdom."

"But if we look at it from a group perspective and on a scale of millions of years, what do we see?"

"Every genius, every great sage, every great wisdom in history, they and the books they have written and the knowledge they have left behind are the common talents of the human race!"

"The whole human race, being pushed by them."

"Every single one of us is being pushed by them."

"The human race, using these talents."

"Each and every one of us, share these talents!"

"It's a pity that almost all of them forget, abandon or even trample on these shared talents, and then say, others are geniuses, I have nothing."

"I know people who are considered to be born geniuses, who showed amazing talent as children, and then, who forget, discard, and trample on the shared talents of the human race, end up being no different from ordinary people."

"On the contrary, among the masters I know, there are some people who have the same growth curve as human beings, mediocre in the early stage and mediocre in the middle stage, but they have not forgotten, abandoned and trampled on the common talents of the human race, they cling to these common talents, and in the end, like the growth of all human beings, live a high-spirited and upward curve!"

"Then ......" Su Ye looked around the craftsman conference.

"Craftsman gods, do you remember, grasp, and use the shared talents of all infinite plane beings?"

Su Ye's words were like a divine hammer, striking every god.

Some of the gods even turned pale, as if they were almost denied by Su Ye and smashed the divine power.

"So, the human race, has experienced the priority of instinct, the priority of experience, the priority of technology, and now, when we see these curves, we will realize that human beings are about to enter the fourth curve, enter the fourth era, so, what era will this era be?"

The gods were stunned for a moment, it turned out that the "future has come" that the main gods felt before had been proved to some extent by Su Ye through this angle.

The Lord of Forging pondered for a long time and said, "Instinct refines experience, experience refines technology, next, we should refine from technology, right?" ”

The gods nodded slightly, it seemed that this was the only way.

Su Ye smiled and said, "There is nothing wrong with this sentence itself, but this sentence has a big premise, that is: the development of everything is continuous. Note that there is a difference between continuity and relevance. Human development is inevitably related, but not necessarily continuous. I'll give you the best example, Egypt was the earliest god system, according to the view of continuous development, Egypt was strong at the beginning and should be strong now, but what about reality? ”

"If we look at it on a scale of decades and hundreds of years, everything is continuous, but if we look at it on a longer time scale, the three eras of human beings are separate, and the three epochs are precisely the beginning of three different regions, which are related but discontinuous."

This is another kind of truth, and what we think of as continuity, from another point of view, is disconnected. Humans would think that the sun rises in the east every day, even when it is obscured by dark clouds. ”

"But the gods must have seen the sun rising from the west, and even seen the sun collapse, and some planes no longer have the sun."

"So, ladies and gentlemen, do you believe that the sun rises in the east every day?"

The gods shook their heads in unison.

"Instinct, experience and technology are attached to matter, and if we continue to refine in the realm of matter, in the end we will only follow the steps step by step, just like human beings use stone tools, and will always crawl gently on the curved plateau of 'technical man' until they are destroyed or self-destructed by external forces."

"Because, at the level where the problem occurs, it can never be completely solved. Only by breaking through the surface of the problem and going deeper can it be completely solved. ”

"The turquoise prairie, the wildfires can't be burned, the spring breeze blows and grows again, but destroying the entire plane, everything is solved."

"Next, we will not only solve problems from the matter itself, but also explore the future from the connection formed between matter, that is, information."

"The Pythagoreans believed that everything is numbered, that number is eternal, why?"

"It's very simple, an apple plus an apple, it's two apples, we all know, it's 1+1=2."

"Apples can be destroyed and changed, but 1+1=2 cannot be completely denied during the period of our lives. Of course, we can say that a man plus a woman equals three or more people, but that is beyond our scope of discussion. ”

"Are these numbers material? Not. Numbers are simply created by humans. ”

"What is the 1 we can see? It's just the symbol of '1', not the 1 itself, but why do we believe that '1' exists? Who can catch '1'? Who can really see the '1'? No one can see it. But why do we believe it? ”

"For, beyond the real world that our eyes can see, there is a higher world, which is the real world, a world far more real and eternal than the real world."

"Apples can rot, but numbers are eternal."

"I Su Ye can die, but philosophy is eternal."

"Spartacus may fade, but the idea of humanity fighting injustice is eternal."

"Relatives and friends can pass away, but as long as human beings exist, love can be eternal."

"Our consciousness and thinking are determined by the body, but it can react on the body and even create a more real and eternal world of thought."

"Therefore, I can infer that instinct, experience, and technology represent the old material world, and if human beings want to break free from the shackles of the material world, transcend themselves, and transcend the gods, they must explore the world of ideas."

"What's after technology? is the method. ”

"What is the basis of the method? It's the principle. ”

"What is the limit of the principle? It's system to system, it can be magic, it can be something else. ”

"We philosophers and magicians are building a world of ideas, and all the so-called innovations, changes, and technological advances that you see are essentially derivatives of the world of ideas."

"You may think this process is strange, even opposed, instinctively refused, but this is the process of everyone's growth."

"In the beginning, we controlled the body."

"Later, we used our bodies to touch our parents' bodies, to touch other tools, to understand the environment."

"Later, we feel the feelings that we can't see and can't touch, to understand love, to yearn for love."

"Can you see and feel love and hate?"

"Our minds can."

The gods stayed where they were, pondering over and over again.

Their experience told them that Su Ye was simply talking nonsense.

However, their reason and knowledge told them that Su Ye's things were extreme, but it was not impossible.

The gods pondered, and after a long time, the Lord of the Demon Furnace asked, "You mean that we only need the world of thought and don't need to care about the material world at that time?" ”

"No, the two are mutually reinforcing. Only when human beings have a strong world of ideas can they better transform the material world. Perhaps in the future, some people will be transformed into pure thinking beings, more like some Oneiroi who have no body at all. However, I insist that a true human being must strengthen both the body and the mind, with the body carrying the mind and the mind guiding the body. ”

"From your point of view, we gods, in instinct and experience, are far superior to humans, but in terms of technology, they are not much higher than humans. As for the realm of thought, it is already inferior to human beings? ”

"I don't judge, you judge for yourself." Su Ye smiled.

"Looks like I need to read 'The Ideal Country.'" The Lord of Forging said with a sad face.

"Damn philosophy......" some gods muttered quietly.

"Are you saying that we gods have no new future?" The Lord of the Demon Furnace asked with a calm face.

Su Ye smiled: "On the contrary, if you are familiar with philosophy and reach a certain realm of thought, you will realize that the world we live in is full of beautiful diversity and diversity, and there are any possibilities. Since the gods are inherently more powerful than humans, I believe that it is very simple for the gods to surpass humans as long as they find the essence of the infinite plane and the principle of all powers, and create a more advanced knowledge system. The problem is ......"

Su Ye glanced at the gods: "Which gods are willing to completely cut off or even deny the old path of gods like human philosophers and magicians, and create a set of theoretical systems that transcend philosophy and construct a new path of gods at the risk of their own fall or even being unable to be promoted for the rest of their lives?" ”

The gods did not say a word.

"In addition to the joint efforts of every human being for millions of years, there are also philosophers, thinkers, and great wisdom."

"Most of them have turned into the dust of history and have been erased traces, and only a very few of them can be remembered for eternity."

"Do you have anyone who would rather go hungry than study mathematics?"

"Do you have a fortune and spend all your time thinking about philosophy?"

"Can you keep thinking in the midst of everyone's incomprehension or even ridicule?"

"Can you tolerate being like Euclid, who has created a great field, but has been admired by only a few for thousands of years, and not understood by the majority?"

"Can you abandon the reality that you can see and touch, and believe in the seemingly ethereal numbers, geometry, logic, principles, ideas, and ideas?"

"Have you used your family's vast wealth to support the generosity of philosophers and scholars?"

"Do you know how much money we spend in Hellcity every year to train philosophers and magicians?"

"Do you have the courage to challenge the God King?"

"We humans, there are no heroes who fell from the sky, but there are countless mortals who have stepped forward."

"Some save the present, some save the future."

Su Ye took a deep breath.

The gods sat silently in the conference room, silent.