477 Money is outside the body, and I value faith more than anything else
After listening to Cao Zhiqiang's words, Yamamoto Tokugen immediately squinted his eyes and seemed to be more interested in the Chinese market.
"Cao Sang!" Yamamoto Tokugen suddenly smiled, "You mean that you came to Japan this time and want to introduce a tape production line and produce your own tape?" ”
"That's right." Cao Zhiqiang nodded with a serious face.
"So, you're currently short of audio tapes in your country?" Tokugen Yamamoto asked again, "Can't you produce it yourself?" ”
"Not really." Cao Zhiqiang shook his head.
"We can also produce our own audio tapes in China, but the technology is definitely a little worse, especially the production efficiency and product quality, which are still a lot worse than yours.
If only three or five years ago, our domestic production capacity would have been enough, after all, at that time we had very few tape recorders in China, and it didn't matter if there were fewer tapes.
However, since the reform, our domestic tape recorder production has increased year by year, and it has grown exponentially.
With the increase in the number of tape recorders, the demand for tapes has also increased.
Even now, whether it is a tape recorder or a matching tape in our country, it is still in short supply, and basically you can sell as much as you want.
It is also because of the shortage of supply that a large number of smuggled goods appear.
As far as I know, many of your second-hand tape recorders have entered our country after a turnover by various dealers, and they can be sold for a lot of price, and it is not an exaggeration to say that a book is profitable.
Of course, I definitely can't do this kind of illegal business, so I came to Japan this time for two main purposes.
First, I really wanted to take a look at the Japanese record market and see if I could develop more here in Japan.
Second, I want to look for business opportunities here, I want to find a manufacturer that can produce audio tapes, and talk about the project of introducing audio tape production lines. ”
"I see." Yamamoto Tokugen nodded, "But Cao San, you are the president of a record company, can you also produce tapes?" ”
"Of course it's fine." Cao Zhiqiang said with a smile, "Our domestic situation is a bit special, as long as it is state-owned, that is, state-owned enterprises, theoretically it can cross the line."
For example, I am the general manager of Huaxia Audiovisual Company, similar to the president of your record company, but I, the Huaxia Audiovisual Company, can not only produce records, but also run my own production line and produce audio tapes, which is reasonable and legal in our side.
Not to mention tapes, if possible, I can even produce tape recorders, from hardware to software. ”
"That's right." Yamamoto Tokugen nodded again, touched his chin with his hand and said, "But I heard that you can't freely exchange foreign currency over there, if our companies go to your side to cooperate, can they freely exchange yen?" ”
"You can rest assured of this." Cao Zhiqiang smiled, "As for our side, we are now vigorously opening up, and the so-called foreign exchange restrictions are mainly aimed at domestic people."
If it is a foreign businessman, such as your Japanese company to invest in our country, foreign currency can be exchanged at any time.
For example, if you go to our country to invest 1 million yen to set up a business, and you make a profit and want to withdraw your funds, you can exchange foreign currency with the relevant departments at any time according to the market price.
In other words, there are basically no restrictions on foreigners' investment, and there are even many discounts, and the price of foreign currency exchange is actually higher than the market price.
In addition, China's labor force is much lower than that of your Japan, and if Japanese companies are willing to set up factories in China, the price of the products produced will definitely be far lower than those produced in your own country, and there are many preferential treatments for exports and taxes. ”
Speaking of this, Cao Zhiqiang smiled: "The most attractive place in my country at present, in addition to the abundant and cheap labor, is that the market is big enough and enough.
Now my country has just opened up, and there is a blue ocean everywhere, and I am very eager for all kinds of imported goods, so I will definitely make a lot of money when I go in at this time.
If we wait for more than ten years, there will be more foreign businessmen and more competitors in our country, but there may not be such a good form. ”
"Makes sense." Yamamoto Tokugen nodded, "However, if our artist makes money from you, can we exchange yen and come back at any time?" ”
"Of course you can." Cao Zhiqiang smiled and pointed at Zuo Tian Yazhi, "I don't believe you ask him, Zuo Tian Jun once held a concert in my country and made a lot of money, you ask him, can he change yen and return to China at any time." ”
Hearing this, Zuo Tian Masashi was stunned, and then said: "Well, yes, China is very friendly to foreigners now, and our foreign currency is over there, and it can be freely converted."
When I did a concert in China, I did make money, and then after I made money, I was able to exchange it for yen freely, and there was no hindrance, but ......"
"But what?" Tokugen Yamamoto asked.
Zuo Tian Masashi shook his head: "However, the consumption power in China is too low, and the ticket price for the concert is too low, even if there are many people coming, it is basically not profitable."
At that time, when I was holding a concert, the tickets were all one yuan a ticket, oh, if you do the math, it was about 116 yen a ticket, not even 120 yen.
At such a price, even if 10,000 people watched the scene, the total would be less than 1.2 million yen. ”
"Nani?" Tokugen Yamamoto frowned, "A ticket is less than one hundred and twenty yen?" ”
"yes." Zuo Tian Masashi smiled bitterly, "Don't be too little, this price is already very high."
You may not know that they watch a movie for only five cents a ticket, which is 0.5 yuan, which is probably less than 60 yen. ”
"That's right." Tokugen Yamamoto frowned.
Indeed, if what Masashi Sakuda said is true, then the price is too low.
You must know that in the current Japan, an ordinary starlet holds an ordinary concert, and the ticket price is at least 3,000 yen, and it usually costs 5,000 yen to 6,000 yen a ticket.
If a famous popular singer like Masashi Sauda holds a concert, the price of concert tickets starts at 10,000 yen each.
If you use Japanese prices, 10 million yen will be paid for 1,000 people, so it's still cost-effective to get 10 cents.
But if it is like the price of concert tickets in China, 120 yen per ticket, it will be too small, the number of people is less than 20,000, and even the cost cannot be recovered.
The problem is that there are a few celebrities in Japanese concerts who can reach 20,000 people on the scene, which is basically rare.
"President Yamamoto." Cao Zhiqiang suddenly smiled and spoke, "Zuo Tianjun is right, but why do you always think about concerts?" Can't you just think about records? ”
"Records?" Yamamoto Tokugen looked at Cao Zhiqiang, "Why, the price of records in your country is very high?" ”
"Not really." Cao Zhiqiang said, "The situation in my country is like this, because of the low per capita income, there are very few records like LD, let alone your new CDs.
On the contrary, it is a cassette tape, which occupies an absolute monopoly position in China's record market.
A tape or a blank tape costs about 2 yuan, which is equivalent to 232 yen.
But if it's a pop song tape, the price of a tape is about 4 yuan, which is about 464 yen in Japanese yen. ”
"Hmm." Tokugen Yamamoto nodded, "In other words, the price of the record itself over there is basically the same as the content, and the price of the content is about 232 yen?" ”
"That's right." Cao Zhiqiang said with a smile, "Don't look at the price is small, but once you multiply it by the quantity, it will be considerable." ”
After a short pause, Cao Zhiqiang said: "Take my debut album "Blooming Life" as an example, this album has now sold more than 4 million copies in China.
Let's say I can earn 232 yen on a record, then 4 million multiplied by 232 yen is 928 million yen.
You see, if you release a record, as long as you sell more than 4 million, the gross profit will be 900 million yen, which is quite impressive, right?
Even in Japan, this kind of gross income is probably not much, right? ”
"Of course." Yamamoto Tokugen nodded, "On our side, the sales income of a record can exceed 10 million yen, which is already quite a powerful achievement, you 900 million...... Too much. ”
Cao Zhiqiang smiled: "This is the advantage of quantity. After all, our country is a market of one billion people! ”
"I see." Yamamoto nodded, "It seems that this cooperation is very beneficial to both of us." ”
"That's it." Cao Zhiqiang smiled.
Yamamoto Deyuan smiled slightly: "Actually, the cooperation between us is not only in terms of record content, even if it is the tape production line you mentioned, or even the tape production line, it is not impossible to talk about it. ”
"Oh?" Cao Zhiqiang looked at Yamamoto Tokugen, "What, President Yamamoto has a way in this regard?" ”
"Hahaha, of course." Tokugen Yamamoto smiled, "Have you forgotten the name of our record company?" Warner Pioneer!
In fact, this is the combined name of Warner and Pioneer!
Warner won't mention it, just Pioneer, a company that specializes in audio, tape recorders and tapes.
As far as I know, Pioneer has started to focus on CD and LD, and the original cassette business is no longer taken seriously.
If you're interested, I can connect you with someone at Pioneer to talk to.
As long as what you say is true, and you can come up with enough remuneration to satisfy Pioneer, I think Pioneer will be happy to talk to you about cooperation in the tape production line. ”
"Yes." Cao Zhiqiang smiled, "That's great, thank you President Yamamoto." ”
"Where, where." Yamamoto Deyuan laughed, "I am a businessman, and I am happy to do it if I have a business that makes money, no need to say thank you." ”
After a short pause, Yamamoto Deyuan said: "Having said that, since we have more opportunities to cooperate in the future, then we will release a record of your song."
What are the specific conditions, the copyright of the song belongs to you, and do you share the sales share, you can personally get five percent of the wholesale price, how about it? ”
"Ten percent!" Cao Zhiqiang said.
"Six percent!" Yamamoto Tokugen said, "At most, our risk cost has to be taken into account." ”
"Ten percent!" Cao Zhiqiang smiled slightly, "President Yamamoto, take a long-term view, don't forget the Chinese market!" ”
Yamamoto Tokugen immediately frowned, but did not speak.
Cao Zhiqiang smiled again: "President Yamamoto, you have a lot of record companies here, if you say five percent, or six percent, then I am not the only one you can work with."
But in our country, apart from our Huaxia Audio and Video Company, believe me, you can't find any other company that can release Japanese singer records in my country.
Why? Because of the current situation in my country, except for our Huaxia Audio-visual Company, other companies are old companies, such as China Records.
The kind of state-owned record company that has been established for a long time has heavy burdens and many concerns, and would rather not do it than do it wrong, so I am afraid it will be difficult to change my thinking, and I can cooperate with your company to easily introduce Japanese artists into my country's record market.
But we are different, although my record company is nominally state-owned, but in fact it is my word, and I have the final say in everything.
As long as I first have a successful example here in your Japan, so that I can give an explanation to my country and make the Chinese people feel a little proud, I can easily introduce your artists here to our country under the banner of Sino-Japanese friendship.
When the time comes, I can release records for your artists and distribute them in my country, and the share after distribution will be in accordance with the principle of reciprocity.
So, my 10 percent, is really good for both parties.
If I were you, let alone 10% still making money, even if I didn't make money, I would have to do it in order to open up one more Chinese market.
Of course, I could have asked for more, not just 10 percent.
For the sake of Endo's sake, and because you are the first record company president to respect me so much, that's why I'm offering you this price.
If you're really struggling, forget it.
Anyway, for me, even if I don't sing and make a record in Japan, it's nothing.
After all, there are more places where I can make money, and just one Chinese market is enough for me to eat.
I casually sold more than 4 million copies of a record in China, and my personal income casually exceeded 400 million yen, so I don't have to count on the Japanese market.
The reason why I want to release a record in Japan is more to give an explanation to the country, and then I put some gold on my body, increase the gold content, and blow it back to China, you should understand this, right? ”
Yamamoto Tokugen touched his chin and thought about it for a while, and finally took a deep breath: "Okay, then ten percent, but I can only sign a contract with you." ”
"It's not going to work!" Masashi Zuoda suddenly said, "President Yamamoto, Cao Sang is the exclusive signed artist of our club, and your cooperation with him must go through our club!" ”
Yamamoto Deyuan glanced at Masashi Zuoda and smiled slightly: "Exclusive signed artist? Zuo Tianjun, Cao Sang is a foreigner, not Japanese, and there is no work visa here, the contracts you mentioned are not binding here at all, at most they are a letter of intent, and Cao Sang can be unilaterally invalidated. ”
As soon as he heard this, Masashi Zuoda stopped talking.
Indeed, this kind of cross-border agreement is very troublesome, and in order to have legal effect, it must be negotiated by both countries.
Unfortunately, although China and Japan are friendly at present, the laws and regulations in this regard are not yet perfect.
Especially for people like Cao Zhiqiang, who have official passports and business visas, they can theoretically unilaterally break the contract.
Of course, if Cao Zhiqiang is willing to take this contract and go to the embassy to sign it, and the embassy comes forward to guarantee impartially, it will be valid.
In addition, if Cao Zhiqiang can apply for a work visa in Japan, then this contract will also have a certain legal effect.
But Cao Zhiqiang only signed an agreement with Zuo Tian Yazhi, without an embassy stamp, and without a work visa, which is an invalid agreement to put it bluntly.
Well, only in this special period, if it was the nineties, it would be different.
Of course, the reverse is also true, if Warner Pioneer signs a contract with Cao Zhiqiang himself, in theory, Warner Pioneer can also find an excuse to break the contract.
If Japan's Warner Pioneer breaks the contract, Cao Zhiqiang, a foreigner, really can't get justice at present, and they can't win the lawsuit, they have a way to kill themselves.
But Sada Planning Office is different.
Zuotian Planning is an authentic Japanese company, if Warner Pioneer signs a contract with Zuotian Planning, it is a Japanese company to a Japanese company, and naturally everything has to be done according to the rules.
Therefore, the safest way is to let Zuotian plan to connect with Warner Pioneer.
By the way, I have to go to the embassy once to get the embassy to stamp the contract I planned with Zuoda.
Once it has the embassy's stamp, for now, this contract will have legal effect, at least until you get a Japanese work visa, and you are not afraid of lawsuits.
"President Yamamoto." Thinking of this, Cao Zhiqiang smiled slightly, "There is an old saying in our country, saying that people who drink water do not forget to dig wells.
It was Sada-kun who invited me to Japan, and I came to Japan thanks to Sada-kun's help.
Therefore, this cooperation, please be sure to cooperate with Sada Office.
After all, I have signed a contract with him, and there must be a little bit of contract spirit. ”
Yamamoto Deyuan frowned, then smiled slightly: "Cao Sang, don't forget, if our company signs a contract with you, then ten percent will be yours."
But if you sign a contract with his firm, you won't get 10% of it. ”
"It's okay." Cao Zhiqiang smiled, "Money and wealth are external things, and I value faith and righteousness more." ”
Yamamoto Tokugen squinted his eyes and nodded: "Very good, since that's the case, let's do it!" ”