Chapter 454: Mathematicians don't jump without inequalities
[Player 12, please speak]
"Or I'll be out in 10 or 11 today."
"Player No. 9 said that he could point to the pit casually, and when everyone started to deliver the words, then there would be no delivery, as long as the wolf dared to secretly point the three wolves to deliver the words, and then you could reverse who was the wolf according to the wolf pit."
"At first glance, it sounds quite reasonable, but it's really too difficult to play."
"One is that there are too many speaking rounds, and the wolf can deliver a message to his wolf teammates in any round, and we can't remember everyone in every round so clearly."
"The second one is to play like this, Wolves must have gains, but our gains are unknown."
"Player 9 said that you can find the wolf in reverse according to the wolf pit that everyone points, the problem is that we are not sure who the wolf is, how can we reverse the wolf?"
"So try not to do any, fight normally, and don't mess with people after me, so as not to be misunderstood."
Player 12 already has an obvious meaning when he says this, he does not agree with the 9 style of play, and it is not recommended to play according to the 9 style of play.
Because this kind of play provides great convenience for the wolf to deliver words, he can talk to the wolf without brains, and the wolf will become extremely comfortable.
And it is difficult for a good person to find a wolf, and he has to determine the wolf first, and then push the wolf back, and there is also a possibility that he will mistakenly hit the good people in the wolf pit, which is extremely troublesome.
In that case, why fight like this? Novel routines and gameplay may not be better than the old methods, so it's better to be decent.
"Although I don't agree with the gameplay of player No. 9, I think he is most likely not a wolf, because from his speech, I can feel that he is very eager to find out the wolf, and he wants to provide new playing styles and ideas for good people."
"To put it simply, his mentality is good, and he doesn't sound like a wolf."
"To be reasonable, except for the good people with big brains, I don't think a wolf dares to speak like this, blatantly fooling the good guys, and making it convenient for the wolf to deliver the words, it's outrageous."
"Of course, maybe he is so rampant, riding his face and out, he has to create an environment for the wolf to easily deliver words, or if there are dates or not, what if the good people are fooled and lame."
"This possibility exists theoretically, but I don't want to disk, if you hold this kind of mentality and logic, there is no good person on the field who can recognize it."
"Player No. 10 belongs to the idea of following the trend of 9, he has a bandit face, it is not ruled out that he is a wolf, and he will bring a wave of rhythm with the trend, anyway, this head is from player No. 9, and a good person will only play 9 if he wants to fight, and he will not focus on him."
"Of course, this is just my guess, not necessarily right, I just want to say that I can temporarily recognize the No. 9 player, but I can't recognize the 10 who follows his logic."
"Player 11 has the same idea as me, and I don't agree with 9's style of play, from this point of view alone, his bandit face is smaller than 10, but his identity is not as good as player 9."
"My ranking of the identities of the front positions 9, 10, and 11 is the best for player 9, second to player 11, and player 10 is the most outward."
"Attention, the biggest bandit I'm talking about is compared to 9 and 11, if it weren't so compared, the speech of player 10 would be okay."
"Because he talked about a point, I very much agree, that is, after the mathematician jumped out the next day, we should believe his information on the person, and don't keep thinking about whether this result will be affected by the wolf."
"This board is for us good people to make choices, so how to choose the right one with the greatest possibility, is to choose things with a high probability."
Player 12 made a more detailed comment on the people who had already spoken in the front position, and sorted their identities.
Player 9 is the highest, and you can temporarily admit that player 11 has similar thoughts to him, and it is better to do a good job, that is, player 10 is the most wolf-like of the three of them.
Interestingly, 12 didn't beat 10 too hard, but said that 10 also had a good conversation.
In this way, the hostility of player 10 towards him is greatly reduced, and it is a bit of a slap to give a sweet date.
As for his opening to say that he would be out of 10 and 11 today, it was actually a joke, so many people didn't hear what they said, not to say that today is the round of 10 and 11.
"That's what I think, we must pay more attention to people who are suspected of handing over words, especially when we point to the wolf pit."
"As a good person, you should try your best to avoid being misunderstood by people in the external position, as for how to do this, everyone depends on their abilities, and the eight immortals cross the sea to show their magical powers."
"Oh yes, if the mathematician finds that the equation is true, don't jump out, let's continue to push deeply, because the equation is true and you don't have a shield, and if the wolf knife falls on you at night, you will die."
"But if the equation doesn't hold, it's different, there will be a shield at night, the wolf knife can't take you, and you can report the person's information when you get up the next day."
"The most important thing is that there are wolves in the inequality, and we can choose one of the two happily."
Player 12 had a very good conversation about this, and it is better for the mathematician to jump out when he has the ability to protect himself, otherwise he will have to eat a knife at night.
Unless there's a pair of jumps, that's another story.
Assuming there is no mathematician on the field, it would be best for her to wait until the inequality is detected before jumping to maximize the effect and value of the card.
To be able to talk to a mathematician like this, the mentality of player No. 12 is undoubtedly good, and there is a high probability that he is not a wolf.
That's right, it's just a high probability, because no one can guarantee whether he is a wolf or not, and deliberately talked about himself as an identity.
But in general, player 12 can be recognized temporarily, and he will definitely not be able to come out of him on the first day.
[Player 1, please speak]
"Since they all said that I should come out and lead the team with a police badge, then I will not be reluctant, a gun stands here, and werewolves are welcome to jump with me."
Player 1 gets up and shoots his identity, Hunter.
As for the last half of the sentence, welcome werewolves to jump, it's pure nonsense, unless the wolf's brain is in the water, it will jump with the hunter, isn't it good to live?
"After listening to the speeches of the four people in the front position, I don't know what you think, but I personally think that the speech of player 12 is the best."
"First of all, he analyzed why the No. 9 player's playing style is not good, not because there is a logical problem, but because it is too difficult to operate in practice, and the gains outweigh the losses."
"But he didn't take advantage of the trend to play the No. 9 player is a wolf, but felt that 9 is likely to be a good person, as soon as this came out, I felt that he couldn't afford to take the wolf card."
"Secondly, his definition of the identities of 9, 10, and 11 is so good that it can be regarded as a conversation to my heart."
"If player 12 is a wolf in this game, I think the good guy loses, who can beat him?"
"In the end, player 12 talks to the mathematician, and then jumps out when he finds the inequality, and if there is no inequality, it's better not to jump, I think about it and it feels very reasonable."
"If player 12 is a wolf, there is a high probability that he will not talk to a mathematician like this."
"Based on the above reasons, I said that player No. 12 is a good person, and I can't count him as a wolf, and my speech, logic and perspective make me unable to find problems."
Player 1 made a lot of logic and recognized Player 12 who had just finished speaking.
The reason sounds very good, 12 really doesn't look like a wolf.
In fact, not only 1, but also the good people in the external position have recognized 12, and his speech is indeed good, which is beyond doubt.
If player number 12 has a wolf, the wolves are already invincible.
But then again, the identity of player 12 is so good, he has never eaten knives, it will make people suspicious.
"Player 9 didn't paddle in the first position, and it could be heard that he was trying to find a wolf, although the method he said was a bit inconsiderate, but as 12 said, a wolf probably wouldn't have such a strange idea."
"So, I also think that player 9 is a good person, at least he can't get out of him today, and then it will depend on his speech and behavior."
"Among the No. 10 and No. 11 players, I think there is going to be a wolf, let's put aside the logic of speech, and the location will kill the two of them."
"We 1, 9, 10, 11, 12, if we don't have wolves, then we are good people in the five companies, this possibility is too low."
"Although it's a bit bad to play positional learning, but the deep push game is like this, do you believe in the good people of the five companies, go to the outside position to find four wolves, or open a wolf in the plate 10 and 11? I think the vast majority of players will choose the same as me. ”
"As for 10 and 11, who has a bigger bandit, I think it's about the same, player 12 said that 10 is the lowest, I think 10 is slightly better than 11, at least he didn't play player 9, and he recognized the other party."
"As for player 11, he is quite hostile to 9, and I can't agree with this statement that 9 may be a wolf leading the rhythm."
"Like this kind of board, the wolf only needs to take care of it, there is no need to talk about himself as the focus, if you want to say that the rhythm is good, you can bring it yourself, and they don't have to worry about it at all."
"Player 9 of 11 can point may be a wolf, and his identity is not very good in my case."
In terms of the identity definition of 10 and 11, player 1 and 12 still have some differences.
12 thinks that 10 is the worst and 11 is slightly better, but 1 is the opposite, he thinks that 10's identity is better than 11, and he is sure that there are wolves in 10 and 11.
"I'm not welcome to the police badge, I'm here to lead the team to return the vote today, but if I'm wrong, don't blame me, this kind of deep push, no one dares to say that it will definitely be a wolf."
"My goal is what player 9 said, try not to attribute the ticket to the god card, and on this basis, run to the wolf to push."
"Okay, that's all I want to say about the police, so be it, it's over."
[Player 2, please speak]
"That's right, I completely agree with Player 1 that there will be wolves in 10 and 11."
"If they're not wolves, then they're not five good people, but six good people, because I'm not a wolf."
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"In fact, 10 and 11 have bandit faces or points that are not very good, but the aspects are different."
"After listening to 9's new style of play, player No. 10 actually praised it, which made me not understand, 9 went crazy by himself, and he went crazy with him, and after listening to the speeches of the two of them, I am afraid that he will die of happiness."
"I didn't point out the problem of player 9, but it was a bit of a rhythm with the trend, which is where 10 is like a wolf."
"The problem with player No. 11 is that disc 9 is a wolf, although I dare not say that 9 must be a good person, but in the current situation, it is unlikely that disc 9 will enter the wolf pit from a closed-eye perspective."
"His definition of 9's identity is wrong, and the bandit face suddenly rises."
"If I have to say who is the wolf between the two of them, I think it's player 11, because 11's murderous intent is heavier, and he played 9 and 10, as if he was looking for an anti-push position."
"And player 10 is different, he recognized 9, which is equivalent to compressing the living space between himself and his wolf teammates, this behavior is not like a wolf."
Player 2 is very hostile to 10 and 11, because he has already recognized 9 and 12, and player 1 is a hunter, in this case, 10 and 11 are not wolves, and he has to play six good guys.
Six good people, what kind of concept, to put it mildly, you may not be able to encounter such a pattern if you play a hundred rounds.
Therefore, player 2 is more sure than 1 that there are wolves in 10 and 11, and he talked about the places where these two people are like wolves, which is generally more objective.
"Player 1 thinks that 10 and 11 are wolves, and player 12 also thinks that 10 and 11 are unlikely to be good people, and I think 10 and 11 have problems, so let's vote among them today."
"The police 10 and 11 shoot the identity, if they are all people, they will fight to speak, if someone brings the identity, the other will resist pushing."
"That's what I think of the mathematician."
"Will the tricky wolf turn a good guy into a wolf when he uses his skills at night, or will he turn a wolf into a good guy to interfere with the results of the mathematician's check?"
"I think most people who take the wolf will choose the latter, and turn the wolf teammates into good guys, so that the mathematician is less likely to detect the inequality."
"And after the mathematician checks the equation, he basically doesn't count this equation as a double wolf, but only a double good person, right?"
"Anyway, I think it's the wisest choice for the wolf to use his skills on his wolf teammates and turn them into good people."
"Unless a mathematician tests two wolves at the same time, which is self-defeating, the probability of a mathematician detecting inequality is quite low."
"And as long as the mathematician can't detect the inequality, he doesn't want to have a shield, and he doesn't want to use his skills to find wolves."
"This is still in the case of no wolf out, if a wolf is pushed out of the game on the first day, and at night the wolf turns a teammate into a good person, where can the mathematician go to check the inequality? It's hard to detect. ”
"Having said all this, I just want to tell the good people that if the mathematician tests the inequality, there is no doubt that there must be a wolf in it, and it is almost impossible to be two good people, one of whom was used by the wolf."
"On the other hand, if the mathematician tests the equation, then we have to be more careful, because there are wolves in it."
Listening to the speech of player No. 2, the good guys on the field fell into deep thought.
According to 2, the wolf will most likely change the camp of his wolf teammates and be a Wolverine as much as possible, instead of changing the good guy to the werewolf camp and resisting a good guy.
In short, as long as the mathematician checks the inequality, the good guy basically doesn't have to doubt it, there must be a wolf in it, it won't be two good guys, and the tricky wolf is not in the mood to get the good guy into the wolf team.
On the contrary, it is the equation that mathematicians have verified, and good people do not say that there must be wolves in the plate, but they do have to pay attention, after all, they are not afraid of 10,000, they are afraid of what happens.
Once the wolf and the mathematician's skills don't come together, what about twice? Even three times, there will always be a time to meet, and the more times there are, the greater the probability.
Player 2 can talk about this, and his identity is up all of a sudden.
In the first half of the conversation, he chatted very generally, there were no highlights, playing 10 and 11 to open the wolf, and to get out of these two, it was more like looking for a counter-push position with rhythm.
But as soon as the second half of the speech came out, the status of player 2 skyrocketed, after all, he provided a new way of thinking for the good guys.
"There is only one No. 6 player under the police, you don't need to plate him as a wolf, don't say that he does the opposite, stay under the police with a wolf, so it's a little unpleasant."
"Actually, not only do I not want Pan 6 to be a treacherous wolf, I don't even plan to plate if he is a little wolf, and directly go to the police with four wolves, unless the speech of the police 6 is particularly bad, otherwise, I will recognize him."
"And I think those who want to play player 6 may be a little wolf, they are all muddying the water with rhythm, and whoever doubts 6 so much will go into my wolf pit."
"Okay, that's all I want to say on the police, good hole cards, I hope you can recognize me, that's it, it's over."
[Player 3, please speak]
"After listening to Player 2's speech, I already have a rough outline of my wolf pit."
"Because I recognized him, his speech in front of me was decent, there were no bright spots, and I couldn't tell whether he was a good guy or a wolf at all."
"But when he finished talking about what to believe and what to question when he talked about the mathematician's information, I felt that he couldn't afford to take the wolf card."
"Because I thought about it seriously just now, the logic of player 2 is right, it's better for the wolf to be a Wolverine, and use skills to become a wolf for good people, at most, to fight for a round for the wolf team."
"Relatively speaking, the wolf does want to use skills for the wolf teammates and push the wolf teammates into the good guy team."
"Player 2 can talk about this, it is worth me to recognize him for the time being, as for his other speeches, they can be ignored."
Player 3 got up and recognized 2 for only one reason, that is, he thought 2 could talk about what mathematicians could believe in what checks and what checks could not be trusted, and what the reason was.
This is the thinking and logic that a good person should have, no one talked about it before, and the No. 2 player was the first to talk about it, so his identity is done.
"Player No. 1 is a hunter, so I won't say much about this, he jumped out to not only ensure that the police badge is in the hands of good people, but also to make a pit and compress the living space of the wolves, I think it's pretty good."
"Some people think that none of the god cards should be jumped, it is all based on speech, I think it's not good, if even the sheriff can't be sure that he is a good person, I'm afraid I will lose half of this game."
"Therefore, the mentality and ideas of player No. 9 are good, after all, he is the first to speak and talk to the hunter to jump out, don't jump without fooling the god card, jump out will eat knives or something."
"As for the way of playing that player No. 9 said, it can only be said that there are pros and cons, he has a very right saying, we can't prevent the wolf from handing over the words, there is no reason to prevent thieves for a thousand days."
"Completely messing up the water on the field, so that the little wolf can't tell who is the wolf, this is not a way of thinking."
"Player No. 9 can think out of the box, thinking of this kind of non-routine play, at least it shows that his intentions are good."
"It's a pity that player No. 11 can't even hear this, and suspects that 9 is a wolf who wants to lead the rhythm, if he is really a wolf, I admire him, and dare to blatantly help the wolf create an opportunity to deliver words, bull criticism."
"The definition of player 9 is obviously problematic for 11 pairs, and he is the most bandit, at least the biggest among all the people who have spoken in the front position."
"The identity of player No. 10 is quite good, but whether he is a wolf or not, this is not necessarily, 10 and 11 have to be wolves, it does not mean that the two of them must be a wolf and a good person, it may be a double wolf."
"Although player 11 stepped on 10, if 10 is a wolf, 11 doesn't know that this is a big brother card, and wants to play him to use it as an anti-push, this possibility also exists."
Player 3's impression and hearing of 9 is very good, his tone of recognition of 9 is quite firm, if there is no accident, this whole game, I'm afraid he is not very good at 9 is a wolf.
However, for player 11, he is very hostile, because 11 is suspected of rhythmically throwing 9 into the wolf pit.
But as long as he is a good person with a mentality, how can he feel that 9 is like a wolf, the perspective and mentality are wrong, which shows that 11 is likely to be a wolf.
As for player number 10, 3 means to be determined, in his opinion, 10 may be a wolf or a good person, and theoretically it is not ruled out that 10 and 11 are double wolves.
The people in the front position all said that 10 and 11 were out of the wolf, and they did not emphasize that 10 and 11 can also be made into double wolves, which makes it easy for people to subconsciously feel that 10 and 11 are a good person, and he must take this point out and emphasize it.
"Player 12's speech is undoubtedly very good, the first dialogue mathematician has inequalities and jumps, there is no inequality to survive, aside from anything else, this logic alone is enough to recognize him as a good person."
"The only thing I wasn't happy with was his definition of player 11, and he said that 11's status is higher than 10, which is definitely not right."
"Players 1 and 2 in the back position have talked about this, it seems that everyone's eyes are bright, even if it is a person who is so good at speaking 12, he will be singled out if he gives the wrong definition of identity."
"There is only one player No. 6 under the police, if you choose him out again and put the four wolves on the police, this wolf pit will be very crowded."
"I'm afraid there will be two or three wolves out of the 4, 5, 7, and 8 after the police, I will focus on listening to a few of them talking, this can't be helped, who makes the identity of the person in the front position more good."
"Okay, that's all I want to say about the police, good hole cards, if there is no accident today, my vote will be hung on player 11, so be it, it's over."