Chapter 187: The Battle of Words at the Seminar, Wang Hao: I look forward to the cooperation of the Basic Science Center!
Project autonomy is the bottom line.
If it is only a nominal 'sub-project', it is also acceptable to do research on the superconductivity mechanism and focus on the larger projects of other institutions.
The current 'sub-project' is a sub-project in the true sense of the word.
Prioritize clearly.
The alternating gravity project of the Physics Laboratory is part of the Superconductivity Mechanism Research Program of the Center for Basic Sciences.
This part still loses its autonomy, and the most unacceptable of them are two aspects, one is that it needs to cooperate with the research of the basic science center to conduct experiments, which is equivalent to losing the freedom of experimentation.
What's the point of a project losing its freedom to experiment, when it's being directed to conduct research, just acting as an experimental machine?
They want to conduct independent experiments, and they have to apply to the basic science center, completely losing the space for independent research.
At the same time, it will also lead to financial constraints.
This is probably one of the reasons why many people in the Superconductivity Office agree with this approach.
The funding of the affiliated projects is definitely limited, and the projects that could have allocated 50 million yuan will still have 30 million left as soon as they are attached.
In addition, one-way experimental data sharing is unacceptable.
To a certain extent, one-way data contribution is equivalent to handing over the results to the basic science center, even if the main research is still done by them, but the basic science center will share the results and continue the experiment according to the results of the physics laboratory.
In other words, it is just He Yi, Xiao Xinyu and others, and it will not be too resistant, because the scale of the physics laboratory is indeed very small, and both the research and development level of the personnel and the experimental conditions are far inferior to the basic science center.
To put it bluntly, they just want to get funding, and with financial support, they can do experiments, have results, and expand the scale of the laboratory.
This is generally the case for small labs.
Normal affiliation projects are beneficial for physics labs, provided that physics labs cannot produce big results on their own.
However, Wang Hao joined the project, and the premise was not valid.
Wang Hao's most unacceptable thing is the first one, losing the autonomy of the project, losing the meaning of continuing research and development.
He had no need for funding, nor did he have the need to develop a laboratory.
In terms of data sharing, he initially thought that the two sides could carry out normal data sharing, you share it with me, and I will share it with you, and share it on an equal footing, even if it is a little loss, it doesn't matter, after all, everyone is working hard for the research of superconductivity mechanism.
One direction is completely unacceptable.
On the contrary, he even thinks that the physics laboratory should be the main project institution, because they are a new direction, and the new direction has new potential, and it is uncertain how much potential there is.
The potential of the Superconductivity Project at the Center for Basic Science is visible.
In fact, their project is similar to that of the Superconductivity Laboratory of the Academy of Sciences, with the aim of studying the mechanisms of high-temperature superconductivity.
The research of the Superconductivity Laboratory of the Academy of Sciences is carried out by adopting the international cooperation model, and there have been many achievements in more than ten years, but it has only increased the temperature of high-temperature superconducting materials by more than ten K, which is still a conventional high-temperature superconducting material, and there is no qualitative breakthrough in the theory of the underlying superconducting mechanism.
Therefore, it is difficult to say how much progress can be made in the research of the basic science center.
Wang Hao shook his head after thinking about it, and also began his own preparations for the conference, he wanted to find a new research direction.
This research direction has been thought of for a long time, but he has not summarized it, and he originally thought that after the new project starts, he will start the general direction to conduct systematic research.
Now it seems that it must be brought forward.
Create a task --
[Task 3]
[Title of the research project: Constructing a mathematical model of superconductivity mechanism based on the experimental data of communication gravity (task difficulty: C.)] 】
[Inspiration value: 0.] 】
"Class C? Ok......"
Wang Hao looked at the task level and exhaled lightly.
If it is a mathematical model for constructing a superconductivity mechanism, the difficulty must be at the S or S+ level, and the difficulty will naturally be greatly reduced based on the experimental data of AC gravity.
Once the task was set up, he began to look at the experimental data of the communication gravity, and a lot of the data was already in his head.
To make a mathematical model based on the data, it is still necessary to conduct systematic analysis.
It's not like solving an equation, it's about having a fine grasp of the data and figuring out the mathematical logic behind it.
Overall, it is a fragmented and complicated study.
……
The next day, the work remained.
In the morning, they went to the Nature Foundation together.
On this day, there were more people attending the meeting, because the Superconductivity Laboratory of the Academy of Sciences had already arrived, and the Center for Basic Science had also sent people over.
When newcomers meet, they naturally don't talk about it.
Professor Jiang Jian, one of the researchers in the high-temperature superconductivity mechanism project, also worked in the Institute of Physics of the Academy of Sciences.
The person who came to the superconductivity laboratory of the Academy of Sciences was led by a female professor of about 50 years, whose name was Hong Junjuan, and they were three people, which was equivalent to representing the superconductivity laboratory.
This conference has little to do with the Superconductivity Laboratory of the Academy of Sciences, and they only came to participate because they participated in the follow-up project of AC gravity.
It's a pity that the research results of Xiang Qiansheng's team are far inferior to those of the physics laboratory.
After Hong Junjuan and Wang Hao shook hands and got acquainted, they also smiled and said, "I really didn't expect it, Professor Wang, you, a great mathematician who immediately obtained Fields, can even do superconductivity research." ”
"I asked Professor Xiang before I came, and he was embarrassed to say that he would not be able to see him until the day of the meeting."
Wang Hao was stunned for a moment when he heard this, and smiled curiously, "Professor Hong, if you say that, if you spread it, Professor Xiang won't blame you?" ”
"He's weird!"
Hong Junjuan waved her hand indifferently and said, "What do I say, this thing is like this, I still know the level of Professor Xiang, he loses convinced!" ”
"It's the same with the Basic Science Center, we also participate in their projects, and everyone knows what level they are."
She seemed to notice that there was a person from the Basic Science Center behind her, and she raised her voice in particular, "Some people, they just don't know it, if they lose, they lose, why are they still making small moves behind their backs?" ”
"After living for such a long time, I don't want any face at all!"
Jiang Jian, who was walking over, listened to his face a little dark.
Of course he knew who Hong Junjuan was talking about.
Of course, it's not him, and his influence is not enough to be able to make decisions on tens of millions of big projects.
Hong Junjuan ridiculed Wang Chenglin.
Wang Chenglin is the person in charge of the major superconductivity project of the Basic Science Center.
Even if he didn't say it himself, because he was here on behalf of the Technology and Science Center, he still felt very uncomfortable, and he could only pretend that he didn't know anything, "Professor Hong, Professor Wang, what are you talking about?" Laughing so happily? ”
"It's a bad old man who does little things behind his back."
"Who? Who can make you so angry? ”
"That's not good, I don't know who I was angry with, anyway, it doesn't matter with me, you better talk to Professor Wang." Hong Junjuan pursed her lips and walked away, and emphasized, "At this year's Mathematicians Conference, Professor Wang will definitely be able to get Fields, he is the future of our country's scientific community!" ”
"That's, that'......"
Jiang Jian thought that good men didn't fight with women, so he could only hold this anger in his heart.
He exchanged a few words with Wang Hao, and the discussion almost began.
Wang Hao heard some content from Hong Junjuan's words, and even the Superconductivity Laboratory of the Academy of Sciences knew that the matter of the exchange gravity experiment affiliated project was related to the Basic Science Center, so naturally it could not be decided by the Superconductivity Office alone.
Otherwise, why can't the AC gravity experiment be affiliated with the project of the Superconductivity Laboratory of the Academy of Sciences?
Both projects are pretty much the same.
Most of the discussion on this day was carried out normally, until four o'clock in the afternoon, Deng Bingcheng made a summary of the meeting, and talked about the affiliated projects, he did not directly say 'primary and secondary projects', but emphasized that the research of gravity experiments is of great significance for promoting the research and development of the basic science center project.
After Deng Bingcheng finished speaking, Yan Jing suddenly stood up and asked, "Professor Deng, according to what you said, the exchange of gravity research is meaningful for the research and development of the Basic Science Center, but in the same way, the research of the Basic Science Center is also of great significance to the study of the exchange of gravity. ”
"Of course."
"That's right."
The others in the room nodded their heads.
This is a discussion of scholars, not a formal meeting, and everyone can speak, and of course different views can be raised.
Yan Jing continued, "Why do you only say the former and not the latter? ”
"This ......"
Deng Bingcheng didn't expect Yan Jing to ask this, and he didn't know how to answer for a while, but then he thought about it and said simply, "The project of the Basic Science Center has begun, and the communication gravity project is still being demonstrated." ”
"Then you can't emphasize it unilaterally, can you? I've heard that you're planning to tie our project to the Basic Science Center's project? Yan Jing asked very bluntly.
Deng Bingcheng said, "Isn't it normal to have primary and secondary projects?" Basic R&D is integrated, and everyone can share data, research progress, and refer to each other to make more progress in basic research. ”
"It's impossible to expect a single organization to complete a basic project like this kind of general direction, right?"
Yan Jing asked rhetorically, "Then why aren't we the main project?" Are they the main project? In the direction of AC gravity, we have successfully replicated the experiment, and the follow-up comparative experiment is also our more outstanding results. ”
"This ......"
Deng Bingcheng was a little confused about how to answer, he wanted to say that the basic science center belongs to Capital University, and the project funding is as high as 180 million yuan, with rich scientific research resources and high-level scientific research capabilities.
But, how to say?
If you think about it carefully, you will know that if you say this, the other party will definitely refute it, why are they so good, but the results of communicating the direction of gravity are not as outstanding as ours?
Deng Bingcheng felt that he could not bear the pressure on his own.
He immediately looked at Jiang Jian of the Basic Science Center, because it was originally proposed by the Basic Science Center to let the research in the direction of communication gravity be 'merged' with the project of the Basic Science Center.
Many people looked at Jiang Jian.
Jiang Jian also knew that he should say something, so he simply stood up and said, "This ...... Professor Yan, you don't need to be too anxious, this matter has not been decided yet, just a discussion. ”
"Everyone is doing research on the mechanism of superconductivity, and there must be some cooperation, and the way of cooperation is negotiable."
"Even if you want to decide on the main and secondary projects, it depends on the comparison of the main direction of research, if you can come up with a better and more potential direction, even if it is for science, our Basic Science Center will definitely have full cooperation!"
Jiang Jian's last sentence was sonorous and powerful.
His meaning was clear, that is, to compare research directions at the conference.
At the formal meeting, the research direction and funding should be determined, and at the same time, the level should be judged by academics.
The physics laboratory should come up with a formal research direction, that is, what kind of experiments to do, what kind of analysis to draw conclusions, how to deduce the theoretical mechanism of superconductivity, and what results may be obtained.
These are all required to apply for a program.
Just like the alloy laboratory and metal experiments are horizontal projects competing with WISCO, it is necessary to come up with a solid project report, explaining how to do the experiment, how to do the research, what kind of foundation it has, and so on.
The reviewer will make a decision on the project based on detailed information.
The others nodded when they heard Jiang Jian's words, and the qualitative nature of the project still depends on the research itself, and everything will be attributed to academic comparison.
If there is no better research direction, it makes sense to be attached to other larger projects.
Of course.
AC gravity itself is a new direction, but the direction is limited because of the same research on the superconductivity mechanism.
In fact, the study of 'alternating gravity', that is, anti-gravity, which is classified as secrecy, is the truly novel direction.
At this time, Wang Hao suddenly spoke, "Professor Jiang, is what you just said true?" ”
"What?" Jiang Jian was just about to sit down, and was stunned when he heard Wang Hao's question.
Wang Hao said again, "You say, if we can find a better direction, the Basic Science Center will fully cooperate?" ”
"Of course it's true."
"Can you represent the Center for Basic Sciences?" Wang Hao is skeptical.
"This ......"
Wang Hao's question made Jiang Jian a little unable to get off the stage, but he still nodded very seriously, "I am one of the applicants for the project, of course I can." ”
"That's good!"
Wang Hao looked at everyone, stood up and said, "Everyone has heard, Professor Jiang Jian just said that if we can come up with a better direction, the Basic Science Center is willing to cooperate with our research." ”
"I would also like to say here that if we can't come up with it, we are willing to cooperate with the project of the Center for Basic Sciences."
"See you at next week's meeting!"
After Wang Hao finished speaking, he glanced at Jiang Jian again and walked out of the discussion meeting with a smile.
Jiang Jianzheng was half-sitting, and he suddenly felt a little panicked when he was watched.