Jiang Hua said with a smile: "If you talk about it, this matter will be complicated, let me make a comparison for you, it looks relatively simple, the world has so many industrial categories of countries, ugly country is one, but he is not comprehensive, some low-end manufacturing industry and special manufacturing industry, it is also lacking, small Dongyang is one, but mainly concentrated in civilian industry, the whole of Europe is counted as one, and the big woolly bear is also counted as one, but they are lacking in light industry, and our country is not lacking in one." ”

"Doesn't even the ugly country fully possess these industrial systems?"

"Of course, I didn't make it up." Jiang Hua explained: "As we all know, the ugly country is a capitalist country, and the construction of the industrial system does not need to spend a lot of money, sometimes, some industrial systems, spending and can earn is not proportional, capitalists in order to save money, he will transfer those industries that do not make money to other countries, so as to reduce costs, which caused the lack of the industrial system of the ugly country." ”

Jiang Hua continued: "You should know that starting from scratch is the most difficult, we now have a full industrial system, so we can take all orders to the world, some people say that our industrial system is backward, which is undeniable, but upgrading is much simpler than building a new industrial system, which is one of the reasons why our country has been able to develop so rapidly in recent years." ”

"So what do you think is the current level of industrial development in our country?"

"At the elementary level, there's no doubt about it." Jiang Hua said categorically: "Now we can only be regarded as made in China, and it is a primary manufacturing, if we have to give a visual analogy, we can compare our country to the current world factory, in order to develop our country, we have to sell labor to provide those developed countries with high-quality and low-cost goods." ”

"Speaking of which, it seems to have hurt the confidence of the Chinese people."

"But this is the only way, we need to complete the initial accumulation, which actually involves the problem of industrial transfer, some developed countries do not look down on the manufacturing industry, such as clothes, toys and other low-level manufacturing, in order to create higher production value in a limited space, they want to transfer the low-end manufacturing industry to the third world countries, and our country is now needing these manufacturing industries to complete their own capital accumulation, it should be said that our country's development is catching up with every good time."

"Then let's go back to the original topic, you are confident in the economic development of our country, then I would like to ask, when will we get out of the primary stage?"

"It can't be called getting rid of the primary stage, it should be called industrial upgrading, we can't be like ugly countries and Europe, feel that this industry has no money to make, and transfer this industry to other countries."

Xiao Shui asked, "Do we have to sell our labor force to complete the country's rejuvenation?" ”

Jiang Hua shook his head: "Our country has a large population, if we abandon all labor-intensive industries because of the upgrading of industries, then we cannot guarantee our employment rate, second, I want to correct you a misunderstanding, it is not that low-end manufacturing must rely on selling labor." With the upgrading of industrial technology, there may be fully automated production in the future, and even low-end manufacturing can realize the automation of production at that time. ”

"According to my survey, those developed countries in the West, in addition to the primary and secondary industries, the tertiary industry is also very developed, so how should our country develop the tertiary industry?"

Jiang Hua pointed at Xiaoshui and said with a smile: "As a TV media, you shouldn't say it so generally, there are many people who don't understand what the tertiary industry is, you should expand on how to develop the service industry, that is, the tertiary industry." ”

"The tertiary industry is derived from the primary and secondary industries, and if the tertiary industry wants to develop, except for a few special circumstances, the tertiary industry can only be developed, and the rest of the primary and secondary industries will naturally lead to the development of the tertiary industry, and what the state has to do is to carry out macroeconomic regulation and control, and at the same time formulate good policies and laws to provide a healthy development path for the development of the tertiary industry."

"Now that the development of our country is called a miracle, what do you think should be done to accelerate this miracle, and where should more energy be invested?"

"Education."

"Education? Shouldn't we invest in the primary and secondary industries? ”

Jiang Hua shook his head: "In the primary and secondary industries should be invested in energy, but more should be invested in education, education is the booster of industrial development, I will give a very simple example, at present, there are many coastal open provinces and cities in China, but the development of the demons in Jiangsu Province is particularly fast, the fundamental reason is because there are many universities in the local area, which can provide a lot of excellent and high-quality talents for the local development, which is the fundamental reason for their rapid development. ”

"There are not many universities in Guangdong Province, but Guangdong Province is also developing rapidly."

"There is a leading city in Guangdong Province, that is, the Special Economic Zone, which was built with the strength of the whole country, and they will lead the area with points to make Guangdong Province develop rapidly."

Jiang Hua smiled: "In fact, when I was working in Xiangjiang, I had some dealings with the person in charge of Guangdong Province, and they consulted me when they were developing, and my advice to them at that time was to lead the way with points, because at that time a large number of investors poured into the Special Economic Zone, and the area of the Special Economic Zone was limited, and my advice to them was to cover these low-tech enterprises to the surrounding cities, and to drive the backward with the advanced, which is also the development strategy that Guangdong Province is implementing now." ”

In the next half hour, Xiaoshui asked Jiang Hua about many economic development issues, and Jiang Hua also answered them one by one.

Finally, Xiao Shui said: "Mr. Jiang, please make a summary of today's visit." ”

"I've talked a lot about it today, but in fact, I think the most important thing is education. If education can't keep up, it will seriously drag down the economic development of our country, and now there are some irresponsible remarks in society, going to school is useless, I can only advise you, knowledge is priceless, not going to school may be successful, but going to school can raise the ceiling of your success. ”

Xiao Shui smiled: "I feel a little off topic, we are obviously talking about the issue of economic construction, but in the end we turned to the issue of education." ”

"In fact, it is one, and any social problem cannot be looked at alone, but should be analyzed in combination with all factors."

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