This question is no longer ordinary, Zhuge Qingyun and Ke Yongsheng quickly exchanged a look, and at the same time tasted the off-string sound.

Qin Yude was obviously asking about the length of the dragon boat races between the two sides, but in fact, he was pointing at the strength of both sides, which was not easy to answer. If you follow his wishes, you will naturally weaken your own momentum. But if you don't go your way and anger the other party, even if you don't have to worry about your own safety, it will do no good to try to lobby for a relationship.

However, both of them are good at words and quick-witted people, Ke Yongsheng quickly smiled and said: "In terms of this Dragon Boat Festival dragon boat race alone, what we have seen in Jinling is naturally far from being comparable to that here in Kaifeng."

When he said this, he immediately made Qin Yude even more happy, laughing, and the other people next to him also laughed when they heard it, looking like they were honored.

But before they finished laughing, Ke Yongsheng added: "However, as far as I know, the current Dragon Boat Race in Kaifeng City is much worse than two hundred years ago."

These words made everyone's laughter stop, and Qin Yude even squinted at him: "How do you say this?"

Zhuge Qingyun immediately smiled and said, "It seems that General Qin is busy with government affairs and military affairs on weekdays, and he has no time to study. I remember reading a book that describes the lively and prosperous scene of Kaifeng, the capital of the former Song Dynasty, called Tokyo Menghualu.

"As far as it is written in that book, every Dragon Boat Festival, millions of people in the city will rush to the Jinming Pond to see the prosperity of the flying dragon on the water, and often the surrounding roads will be blocked. And this water race is even more exciting, with hundreds of boats competing for the current, and it is really like a group of dragons dancing wildly, which is dazzling and fascinating."

Qin Yude opened his mouth, but he couldn't refute it, after all, as a martial artist, how could he usually read any books. The vast majority of other subordinates on the same stage, although they were unhappy, had no way to refute them, and the reasons were the same as their own governors.

As for those civil officials, either they have never read such idle books, or they have read and know their texts, then they are even more unable to refute them, because what they say is indeed the truth.

Fortunately, Zhuge Qingyun didn't embarrass them too much because of this, and quickly continued, "But so what? No matter how prosperous and beautiful the former Song capital city depicted in Tokyo Menghualu is, what is the benefit to the country and the people?

"Isn't it possible to watch a dragon boat race like this without going hungry and worrying about external enemies and internal strife? Could it be that these carefully selected warriors can represent the combat power of the former Song Dynasty official army?

"If this were the case, there would have been no Liao Jin people who invaded the north from time to time, so that the former Song court could only bow down and spend money to buy peace; There will be no Emperor Taizu of Dayue who rises up and replaces the Song Dynasty.

"So this dragon boat race is just a trivial trick, a city, all the way the officials really want to prosper and rule for a long time, relying on the people to make decisions, and at the same time choose the right people to take refuge.

"I don't know if Governor Qin thinks it's okay to say this heartfelt remark?"

Qin Yude was speechless for a while, he really didn't expect the other party's eloquence to be so sharp, some of the words he had prepared before had been completely blocked, and he didn't even have a chance to exit.

Moreover, when it comes to argumentation, how can he, a martial artist, be the opponent of these two vertical and horizontal men, naturally he is even more speechless.

Fortunately, this stage was not full of martial artists, and soon, a slender and fair-looking man spoke: "The two of you are indeed right, and the dragon boat race doesn't mean anything. However, you want to use this to show that my governor must find another backer, but you are also exaggerating."

"Who are you?" Ke Yongsheng didn't rush to argue with him, and asked with a smile first.

"In Xia Ma Shen, Xi is the counselor under the Governor of Qindu."

"It turned out to be Mr. Ma, disrespectful." The two of them clasped their fists at him at the same time, and then Ke Yongsheng continued to deal with him: "I know the meaning of Mr. Ma's words, the Governor of Qin sits on more than 20 cities near Kaifeng, and they are all rich lands, no matter the soldiers, horses, money, and food, there is no shortage of them, so naturally I don't feel the need to take refuge in a certain side."

"Not only that, but the governor of my family is also one of the three main generals of the Pingtian Army, and we ourselves are one of the major forces in the world, so why do we have to take refuge in others?" Ma Shen emphasized again. Look at the book

Everyone next to him immediately agreed,

Even Qin Yude nodded in agreement.

In the face of their confident statement, Ke Yongsheng laughed again, and then shook his head and said, "If it had been placed a few years ago, what Mr. Ma said would have been completely correct.

"At that time, the world was in turmoil, and it was difficult to determine who belonged to the Central Plains. Whether it is your Pingtian Army, the Four Great Yue Imperial Court, or the Liangzhou Army, in fact, you all have the opportunity to compete in the Central Plains and conquer the world."

He paused for a moment, and then looked at Qin Yude: "However, times have changed, and today, the pattern of the world has long been different.

"The Guo clan of Liangzhou has almost been wiped out by our imperial court, although one of them fled to Jinzhou in the north, but it is only a remnant of life, it can be said that today's Central Plains, in fact, there are only two families of my Dayue court and the Pingtian army.

"Three years ago, the three forces of the Heping Heavenly Army, the imperial court also had to retreat. But right now, that's not the case at all.

"In terms of military strength alone, the imperial court can gather millions of people in a short period of time, I wonder if the more than ten soldiers and horses under the command of the Qin Governor can stop it?

"Also, even if you don't use troops directly, the imperial court also has other means to restrain Kaifeng. Not to mention, as long as the imperial court orders that Jiangnan and Lianghu are not allowed to sell a grain to the north, it is enough to make Kaifeng and other northern cities short of grain in a short period of time, and the people can hardly sustain.

"At that time, don't talk about soldiers, Governor Qin, you just want to stabilize the governance of these more than 20 cities, I'm afraid it will be extremely difficult, right?"

Qin Yude's face suddenly turned gloomy with his words, and the muscles on his face trembled uncontrollably a few times.

Because he knows that what the other party says is indeed the truth.

As early as the pre-Song Dynasty, because of the favorable time and place, the area of grain growing in the Central Plains was becoming less and less, and finally it could only rely on the south to transport grain. After the middle of the Great Yue Dynasty, this situation became even more serious, so that there was a saying that "Huguang is familiar with the world".

Whether it was Sun Ning or Guo Yan before, why did they have to win the two lakes, the key lies in this. As long as this large granary is in hand, it can be turned into the sharpest weapon at some point, and it can deal a fatal blow to the enemy.

In the past few years, the imperial court did not bother with this, and still allowed Huguang to sell grain to all parts of the north. But this does not mean that they will not start from this, and with the current dependence of the Central Plains on grain from the south, once such a thing really happens, the problems under their rule will be serious.