"You used to say that the most loved thing in the world is silver, but you never coveted ink, and you really didn't covet ink." Zhu Yuanzhang said, "But now we want to take out the silver and distribute it to the people, take it for the people and give it to the people, but you don't want to?" ”

"In our opinion, you are a simple miser character, with a habit of collecting silver, and you can't walk when you see silver, not really for the people of the world."

"Otherwise, you won't hold on to the silver and never let go."

"The old minister doesn't dare!" Lu Chang listened and said tremblingly.

Zhu Yuanzhang talked about this, and he no longer dared to stand up against it and give money to the people.

Besides, the Ming treasury is so rich now, and the biggest credit is the emperor's.

Of course, it's also Qin Yu's.

It doesn't have much to do with him, the Jin Xing Shangshu.

If it was changed before, the Ming treasury would have tens of millions of taels of silver.

"Your Majesty." At this time, Yang Xian stood up and said, "The so-called taking from the people and using it for the people, although it is the correct way to govern the country, is benevolent government." But it's not like that, to the people, to give money directly? ”

"Yes, it is definitely not as simple as issuing silver for the people."

The rest of the ministers listened and agreed with Yang Xian's point of view.

"Because the people don't understand how to maximize the benefits of silver." Seeing that the ministers agreed, Yang Xian continued to say, "Most of them will save the silver, and they can't make money at all. ”

"In the end, their money will remain in the bank, what is the difference between this and not giving out money?"

"It's no different from not giving out money?" Zhu Yuanzhang smiled, "If you don't have silver in your hand, it's completely different from not having silver, okay?" Yang Xian, you continue. ”

"Only when the silver is in the hands of the imperial court can the maximum role of silver be better played." When Yang Xian heard this, he said, "For example, the imperial court can use silver to build public facilities, build water conservancy, and so on......"

"And if the money is in the hands of the people, then the court will not be able to do those things that benefit the country and the people."

"Nonsense!" When Zhu Yuanzhang heard this, he said, "Since we want to shout the slogan that we want to take it from the people and give it to the people, then the silver belongs to the people." It was their business what the people wanted to do with the money, so why should we decide for them? ”

"Why did we use their money for construction, did they agree?"

"Therefore, the distribution of money is really taken from the people and for the people."

"The so-called construction of water conservancy and public construction are all vain things, and they are all fooling the people. At present, some localities like to engage in projects for political achievements, and they prefer to spend a lot of money to repair projects that do not need to be repaired, and the people's money is wasted. ”

"Or maybe they're taking the opportunity to fill their pockets."

"Only by giving money to the people can we prevent this kind of thing from happening to the greatest extent, and it is truly good for the people."

"In addition, if a place needs to carry out construction, and the construction is indeed beneficial to the people, let the local people collectively vote. Should the project be built and let the people be the masters, rather than let others make the decisions for them? ”

"Besides, the imperial court itself is a powerful force, and it still needs the people to feed it in order to survive?"

"Just engage in some overseas trade, or plunder a little from overseas, and the imperial court can make a lot of money."

"The imperial court doesn't want to use its own strength to make money from overseas and then do practical things for the people. Then the imperial court can only squeeze the internal people to make money. Therefore, a court that does not plunder wealth from the outside world will never be a good court. ”

When Yang Xian heard this, he fell silent and retreated.

……

"Your Majesty, to send money to the people, is it to issue silver, or Hongwu treasure money?" Lu Chang asked again.

"Of course, it's Hongwu treasure money." Zhu Yuanzhang said, "Are you stupid to send real money and silver inventory?" ”

When Lu Chang heard this, he was silent, and said after a while: "In this way, we need the Treasure Money Bureau, which prints money day and night." And then giving money to the people seems to lose its meaning......"

"How did you lose your meaning?" Zhu Yuanzhang asked.

"This, the old minister, the old minister doesn't know." Lu Chang said.

"Let the minister answer this question for Lord Lu." At this time, Shen Wansan, the secretary of the Ministry of Commerce, stood up and said, "Lord Lu means that the total wealth of the Ming Dynasty is so much. ”

"If the large-scale printing of Hongwu treasure banknotes is distributed to the people, it will inevitably cause prices to rise."

Then the people could buy one stone of rice for one tael of silver, but they could buy one stone of rice for two taels of silver. So giving money to the people loses its meaning, and their real wealth does not increase. ”

"Lord Shen is right!"

"It's still Lord Shen who is proficient in business!"

……

When the ministers heard this, they said one after another.

"Old minister, it's exactly this worry." Lu Chang said.

"Shen Wansan, what do you think?" Zhu Yuanzhang didn't pay attention to the ministers, but asked Shen Wansan.

"The minister also thinks that what Lord Lu Chang said is right." Shen Wansan thought about it and said.

"Shen Wansan, you are our secretary of the Ministry of Commerce, in charge of the affairs of the country's merchants. If you are still like others and have such shallow opinions, then you are not worthy of being our secretary of the Ministry of Commerce. Zhu Yuanzhang said.

"Your Majesty, the ministers actually understand that the court sends money to the people, and it is by no means different from whether it is issued or not." Shen Wansan said, "The reason why I said that just now is because I am afraid that some people will be dissatisfied with Weichen if I tell the truth." ”

It turned out that after Shen Wansan had been an official for a long time, he had also learned to be sophisticated.

He actually knew a lot about people before, otherwise he wouldn't have made his business so big.

Just when the Ministry of Commerce was still in office, he was a new official who was on fire three times, and he wanted to repay Zhu Yuanzhang's imperial grace with enthusiasm. But after a long time, he began to hide his edge again, unwilling to offend people easily.

"Say, we'll order you to speak straight." Zhu Yuanzhang said, "If you are afraid of offending people, don't stay in the important position of the Ministry of Commerce." ”

"Minister, obey the order." Shen Wansan said when he heard this.

"In fact, there is a big difference between giving money to the people, whether it is issued or not." Shen Wansan said, "Things are by no means as everyone says, after giving money to the people, it will cause prices to rise, and the actual wealth of the people will not need to increase. ”

"The difference, to be honest, even a three-year-old child understands."

"Therefore, the minister used the matter of a three-year-old child as an analogy, and the matter of a five-year-old child as an analogy, afraid that those stupid people would not understand."

"Okay." Zhu Yuanzhang said, "Tell me your analogy." ”

"In the village where Wechen used to live, there were ten children of tenants, and one was the child of a rich man's family, all of whom were three years old." Shen Wansan was recognized by Zhu Yuanzhang, and he became bold and said.