In Talleyrand's view, the biggest problem for France was that before the war, it rejected the Ming Dynasty and chose Britain.

Although the decision at that time had little to do with Talleyrand, through the news and materials at the time, Talleyrand knew very well what the whole process was.

Talleyrand could understand that the Ming Emperor, the princes, and the officials had reason to hold a grudge against this, and then refused to reconcile with France.

But Talleyrand also understood that state-to-state engagement was not a contest of personal will.

If the Ming Emperor really chose this, then at least he could not be regarded as a Ming monarch.

Judging from his past experience, the Ming Emperor is obviously not a high-spirited person.

As for the Prince of Great Eclipse, who presided over the negotiations, he is only fifteen years old this year, and he may not have remembered it before the war.

Even if he was angry when he saw the information, the diplomats around him would dissuade him.

However, what Talelang sees now is that the Ming side, from diplomats to princes, all put the word rejection on their faces.

Talleyrand could not find an entry point, so he could only directly come up with the conditions that France could give to see if the Ming side responded.

There are not many places that France directly cedes, but there are many places that have given up fighting.

Although most of it was rotten land, the Ming Dynasty was able to enter the east coast of Yinzhou and directly intervene in the affairs of the North Atlantic.

This kind of change in the situation should be difficult for Daming to refuse.

If Da Ming really does not accept this condition, then he can only choose a twenty-year peace treaty.

It was impossible to hand over the entire Yinzhou colony, and the Ming Dynasty could only get it through war.

The current Yinzhou French region is not the same period in history, and it is impossible to give up.

There are now more than 20 million French-speaking Tessie immigrants there, with a very developed industry, and it is already a de facto sub-native.

France's colonial approach was different from that of the British, and it was originally run as if some of the colonies were local.

Therefore, unless the Ming Dynasty can completely defeat France in the Yinzhou colony or on the mainland, it is impossible for France to cede the entire Yinzhou colony.

None of the threats of war on the home are of any use.

Zhu Jingyuan listened to Talielang's suggestion, sat in his position and frowned and said:

"The waters of the Great Lakes and the St. Lawrence River, as well as the islands in the lake, all belong to the Ming Dynasty.

"The abandoned area includes all islands north of the current area, including Xinfa Island.

"In addition, I will compensate 10 million Daming gold bills."

Talelang suddenly breathed a sigh of relief, Da Ming was really willing to talk.

The previous repeated refusals only demanded that France admit its mistakes and show sincerity.

But Talleyrand's heart was beating again.

For a country of France's level, the compensation equivalent to tens of billions of yuan is actually not a particularly big problem.

However, if the Great Lakes and the rivers connecting the Atlantic Ocean were all under the control of the Ming Dynasty, the unique transportation conditions of the Great Lakes region of France would be gone.

Talleyrand's instinctive response requested:

"The land around Lake Michigan was not transferred to Daming, so of course the waters can't belong to Daming.

"The waters of other lakes and associated rivers must be allowed to be navigated by French vessels, and the Ming may not prohibit them for any reason."

Zhu Jingyuan changed the conditions again:

"Only civilian ships are allowed to pass, and the security of the lake is the responsibility of the Ming Jinyi Guard, and France must not interfere with it for any reason."

Talleyrand took a deep breath:

"The disposal of relevant personnel must follow universal legal guidelines, rather than being handled arbitrarily by Daming Jinyiwei.

"When it comes to the case of the French side, there should be a French sending agency to monitor its reasonableness."

Zhu Jingyuan said with a dry smile:

"There is no need for your on-site supervision, Jinyiwei will deal with it in accordance with the laws of the Ming Dynasty, and the relevant processing process and results will be reported to France."

Talleyrand was silent for a few seconds, and finally nodded in resignation:

"All right, but I need time to convince His Majesty before I can give a final answer."

Zhu Jingyuan nodded slightly, and then picked up the teacup.

Talleyrand bowed and retired.

After Talleyrand left, Zhu Jingyuan looked at Shen Fu on the other side:

"Shen Shaoqing, will the British come today?"

Shen Fu looked at the weather:

"No, the situation in the UK is more complicated than in France, and their own internal communication will take enough time."

Zhu Jingyuan nodded lightly, said goodbye to his ninth uncle, and went back to read the reports of the craftsmen.

Now the design of several new ships has reached a critical juncture, but there is once again a divergence in the direction of the design.

The British have indeed been communicating internally throughout the afternoon.

The new naval weapons that Daming came up with, the most affected were actually the British.

Britain is the only island country among the major countries of Tessie, and it is an absolute maritime country, and the navy is their foundation and lifeblood.

The competition between Britain and the Ming was mainly focused on the sea.

Although the Ming Navy used to have the advantage, since the completion of the Industrial Revolution, the gap between the British Navy and the Ming Dynasty has been narrowing.

Before the Ming Dynasty built the dreadnought and the hard hood armor-piercing projectile, the gap between the naval technology of the two sides had been pulled to the level of process details.

The British also now recognized the viability of a combat method of striking at long distances using the same full-caliber main guns.

In fact, only the British fully understood the new naval gun tactics that Daming came up with today, so the British representatives became the most nervous people.

After luncheon, the Prince of Wales, Pitt, Monroe, Nelson, Collingwood, Wellesley, the six most important representatives of the British mission, gathered in a small living room in the courtyard where the British delegates lived.

The internal meeting was chaired by Prime Minister Pitt, but the main character was Admiral Nelson.

Everyone expected Nelson to analyze the threat of the Ming naval artillery first, and then everyone reformulated the negotiation strategy based on this threat.

As a result, Nelson came up and began to make demands, seizing all the conditions to make his own demands:

"I hope that His Royal Highness, the Prime Minister, Your Excellencies, and gentlemen will support me in planning an all-large-caliber main gun warship.

"According to this plan, we can start design as soon as possible, start construction and put into practical testing as soon as possible......

"The best carrier of the combat method that Daming showed today is the kind of all-large-caliber main gun capital ship that I planned.

"Since Da Ming has demonstrated this combat method, it is obvious that he already has the same understanding, and it is only a matter of time before he builds similar warships.

"I can tell you now with certainty that after this new type of warship becomes combat-ready, all the previous capital ships will be quickly eliminated.

"Ten kilometers to five kilometers, which is twice the theoretical combat distance, can directly subvert the existing naval combat methods.

"Don't worry about hitting, everyone has seen in today's test, after getting a straddle shot, almost ten shells can hit one.

"If a battleship is equipped with ten main guns of the same caliber, it is theoretically possible to get a single hit with a full salvo.

"The lethality of large-caliber naval guns for normal warships is very considerable.

"As long as you hit seven or nine shots consistently, and with a bit of luck, three to five can make a capital ship lose most of its combat effectiveness.

"So this tactic is completely feasible, and in this form of the battlefield, the existing warships are all scrap metal!

"In the past, the Admiralty rejected my proposal because the Ming Dynasty did not design and build similar warships.

"Now we can see that Daming's thinking coincides with ours.

"We have to do it as soon as possible – as quickly as possible!"

Nelson had said something like this too many times before, but the results had been limited before.

The reason is that Da Ming didn't do that.

Today the situation is completely different.

Today, Prime Minister Pitt nodded without hesitation and said:

"I understand what Lord Nelson means, and will get both the Cabinet and the Admiralty to support your proposal.

"But now there is a problem, although our warships can also fight at ten kilometers, we can't penetrate the armor of Daming's warships.

"That's what we're really worried about, and it's clear that Da Ming has developed some kind of new technology, and they can't make it public.

"Does Lord Nelson have any reasonable analysis and conjectures in this regard? Which direction should we start with? ”

Nelson had been prepared for this:

"According to my observations at the time, the flight time of the new Ming shells at the same distance was slightly less than ours.

"This suggests that their shells are flying faster, or that their velocity decays less over time.

"This, in turn, proves that their shells should be heavier, and of course certainly harder, and we can explore in those directions.

"The development of a stronger chamber that can withstand more energy released by the propellant and provide a higher boring speed for the shells.

"Develop heavier and stronger shells that increase the energy carried by the shells at the same speed, while maintaining flight speed and increasing penetration.

"Of course, we can work from both directions at the same time, Daming's metallurgical casting ability is stronger than ours, and it is normal to make better cannons and shells.

"If our factory can't solve the process problem, we can also directly use a larger caliber to directly improve the overall power of the naval gun.

"I will write a detailed report and give it to the Prime Minister and the Ministers for reference."

Nelson's perception was very keen, and of course there was no problem with the logic of his judgment, but the conclusions he came to were off.

The naval guns and shells tested by the Ming Dynasty today, the charge and the weight of the shells, as well as the boring speed, are not significantly different from the current conventional shells.

The flight time of the Ming shells became shorter, not because more propellants were used, nor because the weight was able to maintain speed.

Because the "head shape" of the Ming shell is sharper, which reduces the drag during the flight, it flies faster.

Normally, if the shell itself is sharper, then the tip of the shell is more likely to be broken by the armor, so Nelson didn't think about it.

In fact, the "body" of Daming's new cannonball is not sharp, and even the head is more round, blunt and flat.

But Zhu Jingyuan wore a hollow pointed hat on top of his head......

The level of craftsmanship in Britain is not as good as that of the Ming Dynasty, if you can't think of a tricky plan, simply work the process, the process will definitely be very painful.

Pitt and the other British officials, of course, did not know any of these things, and they all felt that Nelson's words were very reasonable.

Pete nodded slightly, indicating that he had taken note of Nelson's words, and then continued to ask:

"Based on the current state of naval equipment, what does His Excellency Nelson propose in terms of our negotiations with the Ming Dynasty?"

Nelson was very decisive and said:

"Pursue peace, pursue permanent peace as much as possible, buy more time for our navy to develop.

"Before we unite with the fleets of the French, the Spanish, and the Portuguese, we can defeat the fleet of the Ming in the Atlantic.

"We should maintain as friendly and even cooperative relations as possible between us and the Ming Dynasty, just like before the Great War."

Pete frowned and pondered the feasibility of this suggestion, and the Prince of Wales, who was at the top, couldn't help but speak:

"Your Excellency, we certainly understand that in order to avoid being isolated by the rest of the continent of Europa, we in Britain should also seek a permanent commitment to peace.

"But you should have read the minutes of the meeting, the price that the Ming Dynasty demanded for permanent peace was the entire Nan Tianzhu, so did Your Excellency mean that we should hand over Nan Tianzhu directly?"

Nelson didn't know how to answer, and Pete next to him hurriedly helped explain:

"Your Highness, the situation is different.

"At that time, we were preparing to establish a colonial alliance with France, Spain, and Portugal, and were preparing to accept a twenty-year peace treaty at the same time.

"The Prince of Great Eclipse at that time was obviously hostile to us, and he was deliberately repaying the difficult questions I had asked him.

"That shouldn't be his true expression, Daming's ideal goal shouldn't be like that......"

The Prince of Wales breathed a sigh of relief, and Nelson nodded slightly.

Pete thought that this was the end of the conversation.

As a result, Monroe next to him nodded and opened another head:

"The ideal goal of the Ming Dynasty has been undoubtedly expressed in the previous negotiations, they want us Tessians to return to the continent of Europa."

The Prince of Wales was taken aback again, and exclaimed, in great astonishment:

"Drive all of our Tessians back to Europa...... How could they have such an idea? So how can we talk about permanent peace? ”

Pete glared at Monroe, feeling that this guy was talking nonsense, and at the same time hurriedly explained to the Prince of Wales again:

"So that's just the ideal target, and Mr. Monroe is from a colonial American, so he's most sensitive to that.

"It's an impossible goal and it doesn't necessarily need to be achieved.

"Just like the French and the Prussians, and the Lucians, and even us in the British, we all want to unify the continent of Europa.

"But that's a goal that can never be achieved.

"They know that very well in their own hearts, so they must have a more realistic purpose.

"It's like we've been working for a long time to keep the balance of power in the countries of Europa and to prevent other countries from uniting Europa."

The Prince of Wales immediately asked:

"Then what is Da Ming's real goal?"

Pete quickly sorted out the language and replied:

"The purpose of the Ming Dynasty should be to control the central waters of Yinzhou, and at the same time control the North Atlantic coastline in the southeastern region of Yinzhou.

He then expanded the Ming colony, which was confined to the west coast of Yinzhou, to the east coast.

"Therefore, the real goal of Daming should be Florida to Mihe, plus the ownership of the disputed area in central Yinzhou.

"The Great Eclipse actually knows how difficult it is to attack our homeland, which is not the same as that of Spain and France.

"So the conditions we need to pay are definitely lower than the French and the Spaniards.

"I think it's worth giving up these areas in exchange for a permanent peace treaty with the Ming Dynasty.

"After the signing of the permanent peace treaty, as long as we stop deliberately provoking the Ming Dynasty, the Ming Dynasty should not take the initiative to start a war against us."

When Pete spoke, the other representatives all nodded, thinking that Pete's analysis made sense.

But Monroe was visibly agitated.

Monroe was the representative of the American colony of Yinzhou, and of course he was very sensitive to this topic.

Monroe was patient until Pete finished speaking, and immediately stood up and sternly objected:

"Your Excellency, the complete relinquishment of the right to develop the central part of Yinzhou, the cession of the Florida region, and the abandonment of the southern coastline of Yinzhou will seriously damage the interests of the American colonies.

"There will certainly be strong opposition from all classes in the American colonies, so please consider it carefully, Your Excellency the Prime Minister."

Pete, of course, understands this, so instinctively reassures Monroe:

"Mr. Monroe, don't be in a hurry, we can't be 'presumptuous,' we should be realistic.

"There is no colony in the central part of Yinzhou, so it is not actually our land.

"Florida is hot, humid and rainy all year round, and the dense jungles and swamps are full of alligators.

"It's not a place for us Tessians to live in, so there is minimal immigration.

"You should know better than I do."

Monroe knew that Pete was telling the truth.

But Monroe instinctively believed that the American equivalent of Scotland was already a political entity.

In other words, the immigrant archipelago of the United States has begun to form a preliminary national consciousness.

To abandon the central plain of Yinzhou is to give up the future development prospects of the United States.

To cede Florida is to abandon the long coastline of the south.

This is something that Americans cannot tolerate.

While Monroe was stunned and melancholy, the Prince of Wales closed his eyes and spoke:

"As I recall, Florida didn't have much industry and population, and the annual tax revenue was very limited.

"It seems to be the most desolate place in almost the entire Yinzhou colony.

"If we change our mindset and stop obsessing with protecting the southeast coastline of Yinzhou, the Florida region is not of much value.

"It can even be regarded as the most worthless place in Yinzhou.

"It is indeed worth it to hand over Florida in exchange for a permanent promise of peace, far better than directly ceding Nantianzhu ......"

The Prince of Wales's analysis was also very reasonable, and the other representatives also nodded subconsciously.

If you don't care that the Ming Dynasty occupies the coastline southeast of Yinzhou, then Florida really has little value to the UK.

Even in later generations, Florida was the poorest state in the United States, and its per capita income was lower than the American average for a long time.

Florida's economy revolves entirely around vacations and retirements, with little industry.

In this era, however, people value industry.

The best place to be is with a full floor of chimneys!

Monroe listened to these people's words and watched the reactions of these people at the scene, and his body slowly froze.

Monroe has never been more aware of a real problem.

The United States of America, where it is located, is just a colony of the United Kingdom.

Although it is the best developed colony, although it is a colony dominated by the Tessy people.

But after all, it was a colony, and it was not at all part of the United Kingdom of Scotland.

The United States provided taxes and wealth for the United Kingdom in peacetime, and if it was defeated, it could be war reparations, and if necessary, even commodities.

At this moment, the sentence that Zhu Jingyuan had mentioned very casually at the beginning reappeared in Monroe's mind.

"Has Mr. Monroe considered establishing an American empire that belonged to the Americans, or becoming a princely vassal ......state of the Ming Dynasty?"

The American Empire of the Americans-

This phrase seems to have a special magic.

Since his partner spit out of Zhu Jingyuan's mouth and into Monroe's ears, he quickly took root in Monroe's heart.

Monroe thought unconsciously every once in a while, and another sentence slowly brewed in his heart.

Yin Zhou ...... No, America should be the America of the Americans-

Both the Europeans and the Ming should get out of there -

But that's simply not possible -

According to the logic of Emperor Zhu Cihong, the emperor of the Ming dynasty, the United States is just a dog of the United Kingdom.

Although it is more powerful, it is not as profitable as Tianzhu, so it can be abandoned if necessary.

Cessing a piece of land from the United States is not something unacceptable.

The value of the land itself comes from the British demand for control of the central coastline of Yinzhou.

And not because they are supposed to belong to American immigrants.

Monroe swallowed, stood up and looked at the other British delegates:

"Guys, are you really going to hand over Florida?

"There are very few people living in Florida, but they are all our Tessie immigrants!

"Florida is not well developed, but it's not dangerous.

"Do you still remember the original judgment that the Ming Dynasty would capture Nantianzhu through war twenty years later.

"Tianzhu is certainly valuable, but can we in the UK keep it?

"Have you ever considered the situation if the Ming Dynasty appeased other European countries and fought with us alone.

"Have you ever considered the situation that Da Ming is concentrating on seizing the Tianzhu region?

"How do we in the UK deal with these situations?"

There was a brief silence.

Pete reluctantly said:

"If Spain changes its mind and accepts the terms of the Ming Dynasty, then the Ming will get Texas and Cuba.

"Florida is right next door to Texas, across the sea from the island of Cuba, and security is just as unsafe.

"Whether it is Florida or South Tianzhu, we can only hope that Daming will keep its promises."

Monroe was silent.

But Pete, after a pause, reassured:

"Da Ming may not be able to agree to this condition, I will try to persuade His Royal Highness the Prince of Da Shi to exchange part of the land of Nantianzhu for ......"

Monroe seemed to wake up instantly:

"Yes, you can work on that, but I want to be in charge of it.

"It's not that I don't trust the abilities of His Excellency the Prime Minister, but because I know more about the American colonies.

"I hope to add some persuasiveness through my identity......"

Pete felt that what Monroe said made sense, so he nodded and accepted.

So Monroe and Pete confirmed some details and went to visit the palace where Zhu Jingyuan lived.

At this time, it was already evening, and Shen Fu didn't want to see any more guests.

But Shen Fu reacted after hearing Monroe's name, and Zhu Jingyuan had talked to Monroe alone.

So Shen Fu went to inform Zhu Jingyuan.

Zhu Jingyuan was a little surprised that the British sent Monroe over to negotiate, and at the same time wondered whether the rod he had fought at the beginning was useful.

So Zhu Jingyuan came out to see him.

Monroe's mood is quite complicated, so too much politeness directly explains the intention:

"Your Royal Highness, the conditions for the signing of a permanent peace treaty between the Ming Dynasty and the United Kingdom, apart from handing over Nan Tianzhu, is there any room for negotiation?"

Zhu Jingyuan thought about the current situation for a moment.

The attitude of the Ming Dynasty towards Britain and France was different.

Although Britain was the organizer of the anti-Ming alliance, Britain was forced into a corner by the Ming Dynasty in order to resist the suppression of the Ming Dynasty.

France decided on its own to reject the Ming Dynasty's co-optation.

When the French came to sue for peace, it was necessary to deliberately humiliate them so that they would remember this lesson.

In addition, the French mainland was already under the threat of the Ming fleet, while the British mainland remained relatively safe.

So when facing the British, Zhu Jingyuan did not deliberately make it difficult to sell the pass, and directly prescribed the plan discussed internally:

"Florida and the land west up to the banks of the River Mead.

"All the land around Hudson Bay.

"The waters of the Honey River belong to the Ming Dynasty.

"Abandon all other undeveloped land and disputed land in Yinzhou.

"Ten million gold bills."

Zhu Jingyuan's decisiveness made Monroe's mood heavy and complicated.

This condition is not much different from Pete's conjecture.

Da Mingduo asked for the wasteland around Hudson Bay, which was worth less than Florida, and the British should not hesitate to agree.

As for the indemnity of 10 million gold bills, it is not unacceptable.

All in all, this so-called permanent peace treaty should be negotiable.

But Monroe didn't want to accept this condition:

"Dare to ask Your Highness, can you use part of Tianzhu's land to replace Florida and other compensation?"

Zhu Jingyuan waved his hand without hesitation and said:

"Impossible, the Tianzhu region is the basis for ensuring peace between the Ming Dynasty and the British, so the status quo must be maintained, and it is impossible to participate in the transaction.

"If the Ming Dynasty wants to get Florida, it is to completely control the waters of Zhongyinzhou, which has little to do with the value of this land itself.

"If you Britain can accept this condition, then we will sign a permanent peace treaty, otherwise we will choose twenty years."

Monroe was in a heavy mood, and sure enough, as he expected, Da Ming did not accept Tianzhu-related transactions, as long as the central sea area of Yinzhou.

Monroe looked at Zhu Jingyuan's appearance, and then looked at the surrounding environment, except for Shen Fu, there was no one in the living room.

After thinking in silence for more than ten seconds, when Zhu Jingyuan and Shen Fu were a little irritable, Monroe spit out a sentence again:

"Your Royal Highness, Prince Daishi, you asked me if I was interested in building an American empire for Americans......

"If I answer now that I'm interested, can Daming give me support, and will I still ask for the Florida area."

Zhu Jingyuan and Shen Fu were both stunned, but they didn't expect that the rod that Zhu Jingyuan hit at the beginning really had an effect.

Zhu Jingyuan was slightly happy in his heart, but he was still very serious on the surface, and responded as a matter of course:

"If Mr. Monroe really has the ambition, then he should support the cession of Florida, which is in your favor.

"You can use this opportunity and excuse to inspire and mobilize Americans to fight against the British colonialists, and the Ming can support it.

"If Mr. Monroe just wants to maintain the status quo, then I'm sorry that Ming can't form a friendship with the English dog."

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