Chapter 421 Tonnage Restrictions on Capital Ships of the Navy

The basic premise for the signing of a naval treaty is that countries openly disclose their shipbuilding plans to each other.

As soon as this ship-building plan was made public, it directly blew up the negotiations that seemed to be going well.

None of the other countries expected the Lucian shipbuilding plan to be so "radical".

Even if they were reminded by France to take the initiative to avoid being labelled as militaristic, they only lowered the target of 400,000 tons to 320,000 tons.

This has led to a series of strategic changes in other countries.

Prussia and Lucia went head-to-head and raised the target to 320,000 tons.

Then, it doesn't mean that Lucia and Prussia need 320,000 tons of high-speed capital ship tonnage, and the treaty can be signed directly.

Britain, France, and Spain, three traditional naval powers, whose goal is to remain no weaker than the late-developing emerging countries.

Either Lucia and Prussia themselves set a target tonnage of 320,000 tons, or Lucia and Prussia were asked to reduce the target tonnage.

They would have preferred the latter.

The first time Lucia was asked to reduce the tonnage, it was also effective.

But now, after Prussia has put forward the same target of 320,000 tons, it is impossible for Lucia to continue to reduce the target tonnage.

There is even a tendency to return to the original goal.

Because there is another country against you, then you are not an isolated rafter.

Prussia wants 320,000 tons, and it wants 400,000 tons, which is not considered a reckless army, right?

In such a strange atmosphere, the second meeting ended hastily without reaching any consensus.

Immediately after the meeting, Talleyrand went to Charles to explain the situation at the meeting, and then expressed his concerns:

"Your Highness, your subordinates are now very worried that this naval treaty may not be able to achieve the effect you originally planned.

"Lucia announced the shipbuilding plan, and Prussia is-for-tat, which may make the shipbuilding competition open and white-hot!"

Charles's expression was also a little ugly, but his way of thinking was different from that of Talelang:

"No, the effect is still there, it's just not too idealistic.

"All the countries of Tessie agreed to limit the tonnage of high-speed battleships to 160,000 tons, which was originally an idealized goal.

"It's completely normal when there is an accident and it can't be realized.

"We can at least pass a treaty and lower Lucia's target from 400,000 tons to about 300,000 tons.

"At the same time, it will also allow Lucia to shift the goal of competition from us to Prussia.

The same was true for Prussia.

"If there is no naval treaty negotiation this time, Lucia will be holding back her strength to directly build a 400,000-ton high-speed capital ship, which is also a huge pressure on us.

"If we want our navy not to be weaker than Lucia, we must also build a capital ship with a scale of 400,000 tons.

"It's not that we can't do it, but it's going to seriously affect our plans in other areas.

"It doesn't make sense for France to invest so much money on a naval ship.

"So the next goal is to further reduce the ceiling on the basis of 320,000 tons."

Talleyrand thought about it and realized that Charles's train of thought was indeed correct.

Although it is not ideal, it is indeed beneficial, and it can play a certain role after all.

It also diverts the attention of emerging naval states such as Lucia and Prussia.

But the problem is that the position of the French Navy in Ctessi will also shift with attention......

After hesitating for a few seconds, Talleyrand asked again:

"Your Highness, should we adjust our goals? Still maintain the balance of power over Lucia and Prussia, or will Lucia and Prussia be allowed to surpass us in treaty tonnage? ”

Charles was a little worried when he heard this question, but he didn't hesitate at all:

"The general direction remains the same, setting and limiting the maximum tonnage of a single country, and we want to reach that tonnage.

"160,000 tons is estimated to be impossible, relax to 240,000 tons......"

When Talleyrand heard this, he also frowned.

240,000 tons, compared with 160,000 tons, has been a big increase, but compared with 320,000 tons, there is still a big gap.

Talleyrand: He had already imagined how the Lucians would react.

"If you can't build so much, why do we have to have as many as you?"

Of course, France can build a high-speed capital ship of 320,000 tons, but the pressure is much greater than that of Lucia.

According to the common saying of the Ming Dynasty, this is a bit of a swollen face and a fat man.

As Talleyrand was about to take his leave, Charles reminded him one last time:

"The key target now is Lucia, and Prussia and countries such as Austria and Italy should be able to fight for it.

"We can join forces with Britain, Spain, Austria, Prussia, Italy and others to put pressure on Lucia.

"Lucia shouldn't put herself on the opposite side of the whole Europa.

"In the current situation, including Lucia, the demand for navies in the Tessie countries is not very high.

"The essence of Lucia and Prussia was supposed to be to obtain sufficient status through naval treaties.

"Their actual bottom line should be to be in balance with us.

"So it should be achievable to put pressure on Lucia to lower her standards."

Talleyrand, who is a diplomat himself, immediately reacted when he heard Charles' reminder:

"That is, it is possible to create a situation in which Lucia has to compromise through diplomatic means......

"Eliminate shipbuilding programs that exceed actual needs and avoid unnecessary naval races.

"This is the goal of His Highness's proposal to conclude a naval treaty......"

Charles bowed his head lightly with a serious expression:

"Yes, but I'm just suggesting a direction, and how to achieve it depends on His Excellency Talleyrand's diplomatic skills."

Talleyrand said in agreement:

"My subordinates will do their best......"

Charles sent Talleyrand out of the office, and then wrote a telegram to Zhu Jingyuan.

"Da Ming did not participate in the signing of Europa's naval treaty, which seems to be a very wise choice now......

"I don't want to do these things, let alone Daming, who is irrelevant......"

From this day on, the relevant negotiations on the naval treaty directly entered the in-depth stage.

Regarding the tonnage ceiling of high-speed capital ships of the navies of various countries, it is pulled back and forth between 200,000 tons and 400,000 tons.

The naval treaty between the Taixi countries in this world looks completely different from the naval treaty between Zhu Jingyuan in his previous life.

Originally, the naval treaty meant that the United States would obtain a corresponding status with Britain and Japan would obtain a relative status.

Britain wants to maintain its position, and although France and Italy participate, they are basically eating melons.

As for the Lucians and Germans who did not participate, it was even more pure melon-eating.

The key lies in the negotiations between Britain, the United States, and Japan.

Now in the naval treaty of this world, all the major countries in the Taixi continent are key players, and only a real small border country like the Netherlands is here to eat melons and watch the show.

Lucia wants to take the lead, Prussia wants to gain the status of no weaker than any other country, and traditional countries such as France, England, Spain want to keep it balanced.

But a closer look reveals that the naval treaties of the other world are essentially the same.

All of them are challenges to the traditional naval powers of the newly industrialized countries.

All are naval states that have suffered heavy losses in the Great War and are trying to maintain their position without lagging.

Although the traditional countries led by France have the diplomatic means of joint pressure.

However, in terms of actual negotiations, Lucia, who has a lower pressure to build ships herself, is obviously more advantageous.

You can put pressure on me, but I can ignore it.

In particular, Lucia, who has been purified by the Minghua elements and the Great Lucia elements, is very tough diplomatically.

Eventually, after half a month of torturous negotiations, the main Tessie countries finally reached a compromise that was reluctantly acceptable to all parties.

The total tonnage of the capital ships of the navies of the Western and Thai countries shall not exceed 320,000 tons.

This number is still Lucia's bottom-line number, but the connotation has changed.

Lucia's original goal was to leave all the 320,000 tons of tonnage for the cutting-edge high-speed battleships.

It was eventually modified to include all types of capital ships, including traditional capital ships and armored cruisers.

And this tonnage share of this can be spent on the construction of cruisers.

The Tessie countries are afraid that there are still a certain number of traditional capital ships and armored cruisers.

Traditional naval states such as Britain, France, Spain, and Portugal have a large number of self-built old warships.

Lucia, Prussia and other countries had a number of obsolete warships imported from the Ming Dynasty after the war.

These warships, in the eyes of the current admirals and designers, are completely outdated.

However, it can be converted into a new capital ship of the Dreadnought type, and continue to be used as a secondary capital ship.

Compared with countries that imported warships such as Lucia and Prussia, the number of traditional capital ships of traditional naval countries such as Britain, France, and Spain is even larger.

In other words, this modified 320,000-ton allows Lucia to eliminate all imported old capital ships and use them all to build cutting-edge high-speed battleships.

It is also possible to let the United Kingdom, France, Spain, Portugal, and the Netherlands continue to keep a number of traditional capital ships to fill the tonnage.

It can be said to the outside world and in propaganda, it can be claimed that there are capital ships of 320,000 tons.

Being able to build a cruiser with the tonnage of the capital ship was a proposal proposed by the British.

The real goal of the British was to build aircraft carriers, and the French, hearing the proposal, had a similar idea.

This is to let aircraft carriers and high-speed battleships share tonnage.

At the same time, all ships must not have a full load displacement of more than forty thousand metric tons.

This is the main concession on Lucia's side.

After Lucia received Niu Jian's warning, she didn't dare to build a 60,000-ton battleship, and she didn't have the ability to do it for the time being.

But continuing to scale up to 50,000 tons still wants to challenge.

Now, after joint pressure from other countries in Taixi, he finally chose to give up.

The tonnage limit was prepared by all the people from the very beginning.

The method of restriction did not produce any moths.

Directly use the full load displacement that is customary for the Navy, without discussing the development of a "treaty standard displacement".

Zhu Jingyuan's naval treaties in his previous life, the navies of the United Kingdom, the United States, Japan, France, and Italy, which signed the treaty, had a huge difference in the range of their capital ships.

The battleships of the Italians were basically only active in the Mediterranean, and as long as they had a range of six or seven thousand kilometers, it was completely sufficient.

The British need a global deployment, and the Americans need a two-ocean transfer, eager to pile up the voyage to 20,000 kilometers.

The Americans' Iowa-class battleships have a maximum oil storage capacity of almost 10,000 tons.

Italy's Veneto-class battleships had a maximum oil storage capacity of only 4,500 tons.

The difference between the tonnage of fuel oil alone between the two sides is four or five thousand tons.

The weight of four or five thousand tons is enough to raise the caliber of the ship's guns from 381 mm to 406 mm.

This is a direct drop of a large level in the design of the battleship.

If the tonnage of treaty ships was limited according to the maximum displacement, the armed forces of the Italian battleships of the same tonnage would be a large rank higher than that of the Americans.

Therefore, the historical naval treaties specially formulated the "treaty standard displacement" that did not include the amount of fuel as the tonnage standard for the naval vessels of the countries that signed the treaty.

Due to the great influence of the naval treaty and the navies of the five countries on later generations, this standard displacement, which was originally specially formulated for the treaty, gradually replaced the original customary full load displacement, and became the main standard for comparing the tonnage of ships in later generations.

But in this world, the main countries of Tessy now, the range of activities of their naval ships is highly consistent.

All on the North Atlantic to the west coast of Mexican.

The Ctessi nation had colonies on the west coast of Mexico, including Italy, Audley, Ottomans, and Lucia.

Although the British were going to Tianzhu, there were supply points everywhere on the route, and Tianzhu was about to be abandoned.

There will not be huge differences in the design of fuel reserves between countries due to differences in range requirements.

If Daming participates, it may design a similar standard because of the large voyage needs of Daming, but there is no such rigid demand at present.

Therefore, there is no such thing as a very typical data called "standard displacement" in this world.

Finally, all the tonnage data is also all in metric tons, which is 1,000 kilograms.

Instead of the imperial long tons of Zhu Jingyuan's previous naval treaties, that is, two thousand two hundred and forty pounds.

In the previous naval treaty, the most important core participants were the United Kingdom and the United States, both of which adopted the imperial system at that time, so it was natural to use the imperial system to sign the treaty.

There is no United States in this world, and with the vigorous promotion of the Ming Dynasty, the Britain of this world does not need to be british.

The countries that signed the treaty all use the metric system, and naturally there is no such data as the imperial length and short tons.

However, compared with Zhu Jingyuan's previous naval treaty, the biggest difference in this naval treaty is the division strategy of shares.

All signatory countries adhere to the same standards, rather than a certain share of each country.

Because the power of the main countries of Taixi is too balanced compared to the other world.

Great Britain, France, Spain, Prussia, Lucia, Austria are not much different, Italy and Ottoman are slightly weaker.

Portugal, though clearly in decline, was still nominally a naval power and still enjoyed basic respect.

It is impossible for several countries that are obviously really weak, such as the Netherlands and Denmark, to complete the construction of the corresponding share, and there is no need to specifically limit the size and tonnage of their navies.

Therefore, the signatory countries finally adopted the most "fair" restriction scheme.