In order to facilitate reading, Cai Yuanpei also deliberately took out two more documents, namely the "Interim Measures for General Education" and the "Interim Curriculum Standards for General Education".

Pointing to these two documents, Cai Yunpei recalled with a full face: "When I first became the head of the Ministry of Education, I deeply felt that after the Xinhai Revolution, the ideas and methods of education should also be changed. ”

"Later, with the help of Zhuzhuang, Bohong, Mengdan and other friends, the two documents were quickly released, and the Renzi-Guichou school system was born, and the national education system was also innovated." I couldn't help but eat another bean, and continued to add: "It's been six years in a flash, and now it seems a little out of place, although I am seeking the strengths of Japanese education, I would also like to hear the opinion from the United States." ”

At this time, the general minister of education was the deputy director when Cai Yuanpei was the first leader, and the two had always had a good personal relationship, even if Cai had stepped down, his opinions could still have a significant impact on the Ministry of Education.

Cheng Nuo thought about it again and again, and decided to take a look at the documents in his hand first, after all, he didn't know anything about the Renzi-Guichou school system, and it was irresponsible to speak rashly.

According to the regulations, education is divided into three stages, namely primary, secondary and higher education. However, the difference is that primary education is subdivided into 4 years of primary school and 3 years of higher primary school, 4 years of secondary education, 3 or 4 years of undergraduate education, 3 years of preparatory education, and so on.

It can be said that there is already a prototype of the education system for later generations.

While reading it, Cheng Nuo asked Cai Yuanpei about some details, and quickly ate the two documents thoroughly.

After hesitating again and again, Cheng Nuo still said: "Gong Cai, I do have some opinions on some of the systems inside, but it is just my family's words, and it is inevitable that there will be mistakes, and I hope you will bear with me." ”

When Cai Yuanpei heard this, he put down the beans in his hand, took out a paper and pen and said, "Today, it's just you and me, Zhiyuan, but it's okay to say it." ”

Seeing the solemn look on the other side, Cheng Nuo also said seriously: "First, the number of years of primary education is too long. Cai Gong, you see, although the new school system is three to four years shorter than the Manchu school system, it is still seven years too long, which is very detrimental to children's physical and mental development, and it will destroy their interest in learning. ”

Cai Yuanpei thought for a moment and asked, "Zhiyuan, do you have a way to deal with it?" ”

Cheng Nuo directly took out the experience of later generations: "In my opinion, the integration of junior high school and primary school, six years is enough, and I will enter school at the age of six and graduate at the age of twelve." ”

Cai Yuanpei frowned, and after recording the suggestion, he suddenly asked: "Pull a hair and move the whole body, so that middle and higher education will have to be adjusted." ”

"That's what I mean, and that's what I'm really trying to say." Cheng Nuo clapped his hands, got up and paced a few steps before saying: "Second, the period of secondary education is too short, and it should be increased from four to six years, divided into primary middle school and higher high school. Secondary education plays an important role in connecting the previous and lower levels, on the one hand, to prepare for further education, and on the other hand, to lay the foundation for graduation and make a living. ”

Cai Yuanpei sighed: "I'm afraid the problem is not only that, in order to go on to higher education, many students take risks and choose to cheat, and the setting of the pre-university department also proves that the quality of secondary education is worrying." ”

Cheng Nuo nodded, but did not continue the topic, but continued: "Third, the curriculum is too simple, primary and secondary education is fine, but when you go to university, in addition to compulsory courses, you should take into account the needs of various places, economic conditions and students' personalities, and increase elective courses appropriately. ”

When discovering this problem, Cheng Nuo also lamented that the mismatch between what students learn and what needs the society has existed since the Republic of China, for example, law graduates can apply for civil servants, and whether it is a public school or a private school in the society, they have set up law schools, regardless of whether students can go to other channels to make a living after graduation.

The mismatch between supply and demand is really a vein.

After hearing this, Cai Yuanpei closed his eyes tightly, only felt a fever on his face, and said slowly after a long time: "It was me Cai who was derelict in his responsibilities and did not do a good job of gatekeeping at that time, which led to the difficult development of domestic education, and I am ashamed of my colleagues in the education industry." ”

For ordinary people, it is difficult for him to surpass his knowledge of this era.

The reason why Cheng Nuo can talk here is also because he has the vision of future generations, and if he really puts him in this big era, there is a high probability that he is not as good as Cai Yuanpei and them.

"Cai Gong doesn't have to be like this, this is the result of the discussion of the representatives of the entire education conference, how can it be blamed on individuals." Cheng Nuo poured a cup of hot tea and handed it over: "In my opinion, no education system can be applied all the time. ”

After taking the tea, Cai Yuanpei lifted the tea lid and took a sip, and agreed: "Yes, the Ministry of Education wants to seek change, and specially found students studying in Japan to listen to their opinions." ”

Cheng Nuo shook his head: "The education system is Japanese Chongde, and we worship Japan, we just want to run with other people's butts, how can we catch up with them?" ”

Looking at the cold moon through the window, he added: "The national conditions are different, and imported products are only imported products after all, and it is inevitable that they will not adapt to the water and soil, and we should have our own characteristics." ”

Cai Yuanpei was very touched after listening to it: "I have long heard that there is such a sentence 'the Ministry of Education only knows how to plagiarize the Japanese system', and now it seems that everyone has been complaining for a long time, and I will go to the Ministry of Education tomorrow to find Jingsheng to say, I can't go back to the old way." ”

The reason why the Ministry of Education copied the Japanese education system was more out of desperation. When the school system was first established, there were very few people studying in Europe and the United States who specialized in education, so there was little knowledge of the education regulations of each country, and most of the ones that could be translated did not apply.

There are already many students who go to study in Japan, and with this base, it is natural that there are more students who go to their normal schools to study education.

As a result, most of the delegates to the first temporary education conference organized by the Ministry of Education were returned from studying in Japan, which eventually led to a more Japanese-biased education system.

Until now, the Ministry of Education has chosen to listen to the opinions of normal students studying in Japan, and it is more out of inertia, and it is more difficult to move the European and American systems to the United States.

Cheng Nuo just wanted to sit down and take a sip of tea, and when he saw Cai Yuanpei coming over with a pile of documents with a smile, he felt a little cold behind him.

"Cai Gong, ...... are you?"

Cai Yuanpei smiled and said: "Originally, it was just a small talk, but I didn't expect Zhiyuan that you have a deep research on education, this is the reform plan of Peking University that I drafted, I want to hear your opinion again." ”

"Cai Gong, you really caught a sheep!"