Lu Zhi is resolutely opposed to the brazenness of some people.

Lu Zhi, who has experience in clear governance, is well aware of the country's ills and is adamantly opposed to tax increases.

"The private tax is already very heavy, and adding taxes is to make them have no way to live, and go bankrupt and join the enemy, which is equivalent to increasing the number of soldiers for the Qingxu Yellow Turban and the Runan Yellow Turban.

Liu Yu also supported Lu Zhi's view that it was unwise to continue to raise taxes.

He also had experience in governing local areas, especially in post-war pacification, and he knew the suffering of the people and how difficult the people's livelihood was, so he was also resolutely opposed.

Yuan Kui spoke at this time.

"Then according to the two of them, should the hundred officials of the court not be able to get money and can't afford to eat? If the court officials can't eat, who will govern the country? Who will lead the troops to fight? Are those commoners more important than officials? ”

Liu Yu suddenly felt that this statement was very ridiculous.

"With Yuan Situ's family assets, even if he never receives a salary, will he starve? With Yuan's family business, Yuan Situ's payment to the court will not affect the brocade clothes and jade food, but the Shu people do not have so many family assets, and if they are not careful, they will starve to death with a whole family, has Yuan Situ ever seen that kind of scene? ”

"Zongzheng said with a smile, I have some thin fields at home, there is no money, I rely on plowing the fields and farming, and I barely starve to death, but not every official has a field at home."

Yuan Kui sneered: "Does Zong Zheng think that there are really no officials in Luoyang City who can barely survive on this lu? If there is no money and people starve to death, who will be responsible? Do you want to let Your Majesty bear the infamy of starving his vassals? ”

Liu Yu dared to say that at least among the people who participated in this meeting, no one would starve to death because they could not receive official salaries, but other than that......

It's hard to say.

Because there are indeed those petty officials and officials who live on a meager income in Luoyang City, although there are few, it must not be said that such people do not exist.

Those small officials who work in the Weimo government have no power, and no one stammers, and they live by a lucrative life, and they are also tightly picking and searching.

If they really starve to death, the problem will be big.

So Liu Yu did not refute Yuan Kui.

Yuan Kui then proposed that Liu Hong raise taxes, suffer the people, infatuate Liu Hong to carry it on his back, and then send troops to exterminate the Qingxu Yellow Turban and the Runan Yellow Turban.

It's just a few months of work, and the people must be acceptable, even if they starve to death, not many people will starve to death.

As a result, Huang Wan stood up again and accused Yuan Kui of not knowing the suffering of the people, so he knew that the tax would be raised, and before the tax was raised, a rebellion might break out in the land of the Three Rivers.

And then the imperial court fought on two fronts?

Where did the money come from?

Where did the soldiers come from?

Huang Wan resolutely disagreed with the tax hike and worked against Yuan Kui.

Yuan Kui was on fire, and he quarreled with Huang Wan on the spot, and a group of people quarreled so fiercely that no one could completely refute anyone.

In the end, the first military conference did not lead to anything.

After the meeting, Liu Hong was quite annoyed, and kept complaining to Zhang Rang, saying that this group of people knew that they were making trouble for him, and compared to Liu Bei, who could bring him benefits, they couldn't even compare to a toe.

"But if Xuande is here, I don't have to worry about so many things! The gap between people is really staggering! Hum! ”

Liu Hong was so angry that he threw and smashed around, and it took a while to calm down, thinking hard about how to solve this problem.

While he was troubled, a visit from a man brought him a whole new way of thinking.

The visitor was Liu Yan, a clan official who held the position of Taichang.

The purpose of his visit was to offer Liu Hong a strategy to pacify the Qingxu Yellow Turbans and Runan Yellow Turbans without spending much money.

"Assassin Shi, Taishou bribed officials, had low morals, only knew how to exploit the people, caused the rebellion of the people, caused a large number of people to revolt, of course it is impossible to expect them to suppress the rebels, they will only bring disasters to the court again and again, making Your Majesty feel embarrassed.

When there are disasters all over the place, only Liangzhou has been able to stabilize because of the dispatch of Liu Bei of the clan as the state pastor, and in the past two years, there has never been a rebellion, because of its military and political powers, in the face of the invasion of the Qiang people and the Xianbei people, it can also mobilize manpower and material resources to crusade against it.

Therefore, just appointing generals, assassins, and taishou to crusade against the rebellious army cannot completely solve the problem, but only postpone the problem, and should follow the example of Liangzhou, and select those honest clans and important members of the court to serve as state ministers, so as to guard and stabilize the world. ”

When Liu Yan saw Liu Hong, he told Liu Hong everything he thought and thought, which made Liu Hong fall into deep thought.

To be honest, he is indeed glad that he believed in Liu Bei and made that decision.

Liu Bei served as the pastor of Liangzhou for two years, and successfully quelled the rebellion in Liangzhou, so far not only did not ask him for money, but also sent him money, Liangzhou was stable and calm, and there was no more trouble, which kept him from a fire in the backyard.

Among them, Liu Bei, as a state pastor, has full military and political power and can mobilize all local resources, which should be one of the important factors for his success.

Moreover, Liu Bei's own ability is also very strong, whether it is fighting a war or governance, he can exert all his abilities, so the chaotic Liangzhou has never had turmoil again, but it has made other states and counties look more chaotic than Liangzhou.

Liu Hong thought about it and hesitated.

"Xuande served as the pastor of Liangzhou and stabilized Liangzhou, which has its particularity, firstly, Liangzhou is sparsely populated, and secondly, the situation in Liangzhou is extremely sinister.

For example, Qingxu Erzhou, as well as Yuzhou, are densely populated places, if you rashly appoint the state pastor to be fully responsible, it is difficult to guarantee that no one will be born with a heart of disobedience, Xuande is loyal to me, how can it be compared with others? ”

Liu Yan rolled his eyes without a trace, and then quickly organized the language.

"What you said is certainly reasonable, so the minister suggested arranging the clan and the important ministers of the court to serve as the state pastor, the clan is naturally loyal to His Majesty and the Han Dynasty, and the important ministers of the court are often highly respected and cherish their reputation, let alone act recklessly and ruin their reputation."

Liu Hong hesitated for a while, and seemed to be a little shaken by Liu Yan's statement.

"What do you mean...... It makes sense, but can appointing a state pastor really have a good effect? ”

"There is a precedent in Liangzhou, what else can Your Majesty doubt?"

Liu Yan said with a smile: "Liu Liangzhou's precedent is enough to prove that the appointment of a state pastor can reduce the burden on the imperial court, rectify the rule of officials, and punish corrupt officials, isn't this what the Han Dynasty needs?" ”

"Let me think about this matter."

Liu Hong gave Liu Yan an ambiguous reply.

But in Liu Yan's opinion, this matter is already secure, because Liu Hong doesn't have many options, if he doesn't want to spend too much money.

So Liu Yan retired and did not stay for long.

After Liu Yan left, Liu Hong and Zhang Rang discussed the matter.

"What Liu Yan said, I think there is a little bit of truth, but I always feel that these people can't be compared with Xuande, Xuande is loyal to the monarch and the country, loyal, and very capable, what Xuande can do, can they really do it?"

"Actually, in the end, it's still a matter of money."

Zhang Rang said in a low voice: "These court officials embezzle taxes one by one, and their families are rich, so when it is the turn of the imperial court to really use the money, there is no money to use, and now that they are counting on the imperial court to come up with this money, they will definitely do their best to stop it, and if they want to raise taxes, Lu Zhi and others will also oppose it, so for Your Majesty, the strategy Liu Yan said may be the best strategy." ”