Hearing Otto's words, Count Werner's face became extremely exciting, as if he had eaten a lump of defense.

For a moment, he couldn't tell whether Otto was mocking him or trusting him.

Otto really didn't think much of it, just asked.

In his opinion, Count Werner, as the ancestor of the Sallian family, must have some ability, so as not to lead the Franconian army and be repeatedly defeated.

Considering that the Sallian family also rose from Franconia in the future, Otto naturally had reason to believe that Werner was taking this opportunity to expand his power in the Duchy of Franconia.

Otto's conjecture does have some truth, but unfortunately, the facts are slightly different from Otto's.

It's not that Count Werner is too dish, and it's not that Count Werner has any careful thoughts, it's really a bit strong against the opponent.

The Duke of Saxony, Bach, who was elected by the Saxon aristocracy, was a little brave and strong.

According to Count Werner, the Count of Bach, no, Duke Bach, is a fierce man who can defeat four or five regular knights on the battlefield alone.

There are such fierce men who lead the knights to rush into battle, and the result is obvious, it is bound to be a big chaos in the formation and turn into a rout.

It's not that Count Werner doesn't work hard, it's that Duke Bach has a plug-in.

Although Count Werner was serious and sincere when he explained, Otto did not believe it in his heart.

Yes, from the moment he came to this world, he was told that it was a world where there might be transcendence, but he didn't feel a trace of transcendence.

Even if Wade clearly told Otto that he was also an "extraordinary" knight, in Otto's opinion, he was just a knight with more martial arts and physical strength.

On the battlefield, the role played is actually equal to more than ten knights.

Otto has also experienced the baptism of several wars, how can he believe that someone can kill the enemy by himself.

Judging from his modest experience in warfare, the role played by those so-called "extraordinary" regular knights in real large-scale battles was also very limited, and it was not so exaggerated at all.

It is said that one person can fight dozens or even hundreds of ordinary knights, but Otto has never seen it in actual combat.

Perhaps, those boasted "extraordinary" can fight against a hundred, but they are just in an ordinary duel, one by one.

Otherwise, in the battles that Otto has experienced before, how can he not see any regular knight who has the ability to turn the tide and change his life with his own strength.

Besides, that Duke of Bach sounded so fierce, but under the Duke of Franconia, could it be that there was a lack of regular knights. One can't beat one, and the last ten or twenty regular knights drag each other down, and then use the army to attack, isn't it even possible to do this?

Just kidding, when this is "Medieval Romance", right?

Although Otto did not say it explicitly, the Count of Werner saw the answer in Otto's face and knew that Otto did not believe it.

However, Count Werner did not explain, and he was very helpless in his heart.

Because according to the general saying, he himself is also a member of the regular knights, and he knows very well how effective the regular knights are.

Yes, the regular knight's individual combat ability is indeed very strong, but when it comes to the battlefield, with the increase in numbers, even if it is himself, it is impossible to influence the battle situation with his own strength.

If he hadn't seen the strength of that Duke Bach with his own eyes, he wouldn't have believed that anyone could really change the pattern of the battlefield alone.

"Forget it, the gods are above, what I said is true.

Since you don't believe Count Otto, then I can't help it. ”

Werner shook his head, not explaining too much.

"Your Excellency the Duke is still waiting for you, and you can talk to the Duke about other matters. Anyway, you'll know when the time comes, I'm not telling you anything. ”

Otto met with the Duke of Franconia in disbelief.

Compared with the last time they met, the Duke of Franconia looked much haggard, and he looked like he was not resting well.

It seems that the rebellion of the Duchy of Saxony really broke the heart of the Grand Duke.

Seeing Otto, the Duke of Franconia did not show a smile on his face.

To be honest, he was looking at the relationship between the Sighard family and the Saxon nobles, and what he wanted was the help of the Sighard family, and he didn't think that Otto had any ability, and he could really rely on Otto to solve this trouble.

After all, no one knows better than him, the person who sent out his military exploits, the so-called "war exploits" of Otto last time.

After a few brief pleasantries, the Duke of Franconia got down to business, asking Otto what he thought about how to resolve the rebellion in Saxony and what support he needed.

Otto had already made a plan before, and his answer to this was naturally from the script, which was nothing more than the need for an elite army and the assistance of some generals to quell the rebellion step by step.

Otto did not forget what the Count of Werner said earlier about how strong Duke Bach's personal combat power was, and proposed that he needed the help of many regular knights.

After listening to Otto's plan, the Duke of Franconia was disappointed, shook his head, and was even more optimistic about Otto.

"Is there no other way than force, Count Otto?

For example, sit down with those Saxons and talk to them, and with the influence of the Sighard family, make them obedient again?

There are some conditions, everyone is still very easy to say. ”

At this moment, Otto didn't know if the Duke of Franconia was too naïve, or because the other party had lost his heart because of the previous battle damage, he could actually have this idea.

Please, if we can negotiate a settlement, will things get to this point?

If the Sighard family really has so much influence in Saxony, then the Duke of Saxony should not have fallen into the hands of the Sighard family a long time ago?

Otto was amused in his heart, but on the surface he looked respectful.

"Lord Duke, there is an ancient Greek maxim that I don't know if you have heard.

What you can't get on the battlefield, it's even more impossible to get at the negotiating table.

Truth is always within the reach of the sword.

Lord Duke, although the Sighard family has a good relationship with the nobles of Saxony, it is obviously impossible to rely on this to convince them. Even if the Earl of Ansbach tried to persuade him personally, he would not be able to do the same.

What's more, behind this Saxon rebellion, there is also the shadow of the church. ”

"The church?" When he heard Otto talk about the church, the Duke of Franconia's whole face changed, and his momentum became different, and he instantly returned to the invincible state when he commanded the army on the battlefield.

"I said how suddenly the Saxons were so bold, it turned out to be those damn guys. Could it be that it was my brother's plan that was discovered by them?

The nature of the matter may be more serious than I thought, and I may need my brother's help.

How did you find out that the church was involved in this matter, tell me in detail. ”