The recording of the dialogue show is very simple, that is, Xu Nan and Zhu Song sit at a table and chat like friends.

As soon as Zhu Song opened his mouth, he was very sharp: "Now many people say that the movie you made is a bad movie, what do you think?" ”

Of course, Xu Nan can't admit it: "I didn't make bad movies, "Qingming Riverside Picture" and "Taoist Bian Mountain" are copycat porcelain films, "Captain China" is a funny thunder film, these are not bad movies, bad movies are movies that people can't watch, the movies I make will never make people unbearable, and there are even many audiences who like to watch my movies. ”

Zhu Song continued to ask: "But the problem is, now everyone says that you are making a bad movie. ”

Xu Nan asked rhetorically: "Everyone says bad movies, it must be?" ”

"In ancient times, many people thought that our world was a round place, so is our world really a round place?"

Zhu Song shook his head.

He certainly doesn't think that what the public says is necessarily right.

As the saying goes, the truth is often in the hands of a few.

There are many things that there is no way to get answers at that time, and only after a period of time and so on to settle down, can you get a clear answer.

Xu Nan continued: "And everyone you said is only a very small number of insiders who see me making money and are red-eyed, and some people are purely following the trend, they are not everyone, everyone is a silent majority." ”

Zhu Song said: "So you don't think you're making a bad movie, do you?" ”

Xu Nan retorted fiercely: "Of course it's not a bad movie, if it's a bad movie, why is there such a high box office, is it that the audience is blind and likes to watch bad movies?" ”

"Why do many people in the circle say that the movies I make are bad movies, it's because I make money, and I make a lot of money, so they are red and try to slander me for making bad movies, so that everyone doesn't watch my movies."

"I think it's funny, since they all say that I make bad movies, why do movies make money? Do they mean that a movie that can make money is not a good movie, and only a good movie is what they say is a good movie? ”

"When will it be their turn to judge whether a movie is good or bad?"

"Here I want to give a word to those insiders who splashed me with dirty water."

"The audience likes it, you don't like it, how old are you?"

"Even if you say that I make a bad movie, I still make money, and I make a lot of money, and I am angry with you."

Xu Nan said it freely and vividly, and completely said what was in his heart.

Being slandered every day, is it true that he has no temper.

Zhu Song had no intention of arguing with Xu Nan.

This is a talk show that is mainly for the guests to speak their minds.

Even if he thinks that what the guest said is wrong, he will not think about convincing the guest, but will choose to broadcast it and let the public judge.

Zhu Song continued to ask: "We all know that the movie "Captain China" has been a huge success, not only won a billion box office, becoming the third in film history, and even refreshed the record of domestic film network broadcast rights. ”

"But many people think that the success of this movie is purely due to the marketing of footwash, what do you think?"

"Captain China" purely relies on marketing to have such a high box office, which is also the most popular saying on the Internet.

Zhu Song deliberately asked this question in order to make Xu Nan say his point.

Xu Nan nodded: "I admit that "Captain China" can be successful, and marketing accounts for a large proportion. ”

"However, is there a movie that doesn't rely on marketing, and is there a movie that isn't promoted?"

"Everyone is publicizing, why just talk about me?"

Zhu Song hesitated: "Maybe it's because the stalk of footwashing water is relatively vulgar." ”

Xu Nan nodded: "Even if the success of the movie is marketing, then the question is, suppose there is a ball of rice field now, and all of them say that it is delicious, will you eat it?" ”

Zhu Song: "Uh"

Xu Nan's question was too vulgar, and it really made him difficult.

Xu Nan didn't care about Zhu Song's slightly embarrassed expression, and continued: "Maybe someone will eat, but the people who eat it are a minority after all, because this thing can't work at all." ”

"But if it's stinky tofu, it's different, more people will eat it, and more people will eat durian."

"Why do I want to use this as an example, I just want to tell everyone that if a movie is really rubbish and the audience can't watch it, then no matter how much marketing is useless, the reason why "Captain China" can have such a high box office is because the movie itself is unique."

"It's just that many people, especially some directors in the circle, won't admit this, as long as they can't get used to it, or think it's bad, it must be wrong."

"After all, I'm old, I can't keep up with the development of the times, a certain big director has been making bad movies in the past few years, and the box office of the movie is not good because of the audience's garbage."

"Look at what a director said, the audience is God, he actually scolded the audience for rubbish, isn't this picking up a bowl to eat, putting down the bowl and scolding his mother, can you believe this kind of person's words?"

Zhu Song said: "So you think that the quality of "Captain China" itself is good, so it can rely on the marketing explosion. ”

Xu Nan nodded: "Of course, the box office of the movie is the most obvious evidence, and there have always been netizens on the Internet who say that my movies are very interesting, including Li Ping, a director who has won the Orcas Award." ”

"If these people go to the movies because of marketing, then they should angrily scold me when they see that the movie is a bad movie, but the reality is that even if my online reputation is very bad now, there are still a group of netizens who have always firmly supported me."

Zhu Song did not express his opinion, but continued to ask: "Will you continue to make this type of movie?" ”

Xu Nan nodded: "Of course I will continue to shoot, there are audiences who like this type of movie and can make money, why don't I continue to shoot." ”

Zhu Song asked: "Even if there are many people who say that this kind of movie is a bad movie. ”

Xu Nan smiled: "I know that there are many people who are not used to me, and they can't understand why I can continue to achieve success. ”

"But I want to say that the world will continue to rotate without anyone, and what you can't understand doesn't mean you can't succeed."

"Next, I will make movies seriously, I will use success to silence these people who are not used to me, and I will continue to succeed to make them understand that I am definitely not making a bad movie."

In the end, Xu Nan also seized the opportunity to advertise his new movie, of course, this was also communicated with the program team in advance.

"Here I want to advertise my new movie "Spider-Man", this movie and "Captain China" are the same type of movie, and it is the same world view, starring Mimi, the quality is absolutely guaranteed, please look forward to it."

(End of chapter)