Chapter 208: I believe in so many gods, and I'm definitely not an atheist

"What is this Alain? Why are there so many strange people? Zhu Wenkui asked.

"Alan is probably the Xian Cai in the Han book, and he is a similar ethnic group to Kangju and Dayue clan." Guo Kang said: "Zhi Zhishan appeared when he fled west, so there is a record in the Hanshu. ”

"What's that story?" Jeanne Jr. asked.

"You don't even know that?" Guo Kang was quite surprised: "You really only read the scriptures of the church." ”

"I, I've only been reading books for a few years, I don't know if it's normal!" Jeanne Jr. frowned angrily and grumbled.

"That's not it." Guo Kang finally caught the field she was not good at, and began to put up his brother's shelf, and taught him a lesson: "If you don't understand basic historical knowledge, just go and recite the scriptures, aren't you afraid of crooked recitation?" ”

"Let me ask you a basic question: If what really happened in history contradicts the records in the scriptures, then do you think the doctrine in the scriptures is wrong, or is the world wrong?"

It was some of the people who had misunderstood the doctrine. The doctrine and the world are right. Jeanne replied without thinking.

"Oh my God, your sister is a religious genius." Guo Kang really couldn't hold back, and turned his head to Zhu Wenkui and praised.

"......" Zhu Wenkui didn't know if he was really complimenting or being sarcastic, and he didn't know how to answer.

Guo Kang also felt that finding a sense of superiority from other people's little girls was a bit too bullying, and it was not a face-saving thing - but then again, he had really been bullied by the little girl before, and no matter how he thought about it, he was already a little faceless.

And how to get back face with face...... This one is really not easy to find.

After struggling for a while, he decided to get straight to the point.

"During the Han Dynasty, Xian Cai was a vassal of Kangju. After being defeated in the Xiongnu civil war, Zhi Zhishan fled there, leading more than 3,000 remnants of his army and camping on the banks of the Talas River. Guo Kang said: "King Kangju wanted to use his strength to deal with Wusun, so he married his daughter to him." Zhizhi really defeated Wusun in succession, forcing Wusun to migrate thousands of miles to avoid him. ”

"Zhi Zhi was tyrannical and rampant everywhere, and Da Wan, Xian Cai and others were forced to pay him New Year's coins. Thinking that the Kangju people were rude to him, he wantonly killed people, and successively killed and dismembered hundreds of people such as the Kangju princess, nobles, and ordinary people, and threw them into the river. Kangju and other countries were afraid of his power and did not dare to resist him. ”

"It turns out that this is the ......way to appear," little Jeanne was a little surprised: "I thought it was a famous family." ”

"Indeed." Zhu Wenkui nodded: "My only impression of Zhizhi is that he was killed by the Han Dynasty. I didn't expect it to be so rampant in the Western Regions. ”

"If I hadn't gone to find ancient books to study their origin legends, I wouldn't have known about it." Guo Kang told them: "But this is actually the daily life of the Western Regions, and it is not strange to see too much." ”

Later, the rise of Rouran led to the squeezing of the Hu people in the Western Regions and their westward migration. The Persians and Indians recorded a large number of ethnic groups such as the 'Red Huns', 'White Huns', and 'Hunnit'. These Hu people forced the Hu people of the Kangju line to flee to the northwest as well. Those who entered Europe were the Alans. ”

"Sounds complicated. Why are there so many Huns? Are they related? Jeanne asked.

"After the collapse of Rome in Western Europe, there were a lot of people who called themselves Rome." Guo Kang pointed out: "Their relationship with the Xiongnu in the Han Dynasty is probably ...... The relationship between the Holy Roman Empire and the Roman Empire. ”

"Oh, that's a metaphor, it's easy to understand." Little Jeanne showed a clear expression: "But the Holy Roman Empire still has something to do with Rome, right?" ”

"These five-colored Xiongnu may have also been vassals under the Huns, or vassals of vassals. Isn't it always like this on the prairie? Guo Kang disagreed: "People can also say that they have something to do with it." ”

Jeanne Jr. couldn't refute it for a while.

"I really don't understand the relationship here." Zhu Wenkui complained: "The last time I read a book, it was said that King Alamani claimed to be the king of the Romans on the one hand, and the king of the Germans on the other. How is this round? ”

"I don't know." Guo Kang said bluntly: "Some of these titles seem to coexist, and some are not. It's so complicated that you have to ask someone like Theodora, I can't remember. ”

"But I feel that this is like the emperor of the Yuan Dynasty still calling himself the Great Khan of Mongolia, in order to take care of both sides at the same time." He thought for a moment and said:

"It's actually quite common. The Great Khan of Mongolia always wanted to enter the Central Plains and did not want to take care of poor relatives in the steppe; King Alemanni spent his days trying to enter Italy, but he did not manage his fellow Germans; The King of England was concerned about France every day, and he did not want to stay on the island at all. It can be seen that everyone's thoughts are actually similar. ”

"As I just said, Rouran was originally a Xianbei person. After Tuoba Xianbei entered the Central Plains, his hometown was directly gone. In these places that no one cares about, all kinds of scattered tribes, fugitive slaves, and even the Central Plains and Western Regions people who have been displaced to the grassland, have formed such a country. Their relationship with Xianbei is somewhat similar to the relationship between the Mongol tribes and the Yuan Dynasty, but they are stronger. ”

"Then if the HRE really completely controls Italy, I'm afraid their German attributes will also weaken soon." Jeanne Jr. speculated.

"That's for sure." Guo Kang nodded confirmingly: "When the time comes, we will have to guard against other German fellows, and they will also learn from them, and go south to the Alps to compete with him for territory - you see Frederick II, after sitting on the throne of Sicily, didn't he immediately learn from the Arabs, and even rarely called himself the king of Germany." ”

Little Jeanne thought about it and felt that it made sense.

"You still can't tell, don't you know these historical events very well?" She said.

"I really can't remember those titles, lineages, or whatever. The histories of the various families on their side are too complicated. Guo Kang said: "I'm just curious about the order of civilization inheritance. ”

"Order? In what order? Jeanne asked.

"I heard the saying that Greek civilization was inherited from Egypt, Roman civilization from Greece, and Western Europe from Rome. So the civilization here has always been in the same vein, and it has never been interrupted. Guo Kang said: "Some people believe that the Roman Catholic countries can be regarded as an orthodox civilization that has been inherited for a long time. But I've seen a lot of the situation here, and I always feel that it's not very reliable, like the Europeans deliberately exaggerated and made up to boast. ”

"Bragging?" Jeanne tilted her head, looking a little puzzled: "There is an element of boasting, and that's right......"

"But this should not be the Catholics themselves." She thought for a moment and judged.

"Why?" Guo Kang asked.

"It's not just a question of whether these inheritances are true or not, but because normal Europeans don't choose this vaunted direction." Little Jeanne had a look of conviction:

"I'm also a Western European Catholic, and I know them very well. If they boast, they must describe and exaggerate it in terms of the grace of the Father, the legitimacy of the church, and the authority of the Kingdom. This civilization is inherited...... It doesn't look like what they can say. ”

"That's right." Zhu Wenkui also nodded, and said casually: "Leave here to give the barbarians the three unifications, do people understand this?" This idea is too central, and it is not at all the way of thinking of other Europeans. ”

"It's okay to argue orthodoxy, but it's not this idea of which civilization inherits which." Jeanne corrected: "Europe is different from the Central Plains, and the church has such a thing as orthodox inheritance. But there is only one Heavenly Father in the world, and the church will not have a previous dynasty and two kings and three kings. Therefore, their inheritance only cares about the identity of 'believers', and does not need to consider the issue of civilization replacement. ”

And in all secular regimes, legitimacy is divinely given, and has nothing to do with civilization, ethnicity, and the like. The German king's self-proclaimed Rome was mainly because of the religious significance of Rome, not that he really considered himself a Roman. ”

"If I, as a Catholic, were to preach and argue that civilization had a long history, it would be Moses." When she encountered a topic that she was good at, she analyzed it again: "First of all, the ancient history from Abraham to Moses, and their relationship with Mesopotamia and Egypt; It is then argued that after the exodus of Moses, the spark of civilization and truth reached the eastern shore of the Mediterranean; Then, in the time of the argument Christ, civilization and truth were spread throughout the Mediterranean, gradually becoming unified with Rome; Eventually, it spread to Western Europe, where it took root with the missionary work of the Roman Church. ”

"Egypt would do well to say less. Because in the scriptures, Egypt is primarily a negative image. He is mentioned mainly as a time scale, which is used to compare and illustrate the long history. ”

She cupped her cheeks, thought for a moment, and added, "By the way, the Greece you said is better to mention it in one stroke." Because the dispute between Greek and Latin priests in the early church was a bad deal. It covers a lot of events that are related to the core of the church, including doctrinal disagreements and the emergence of some early heresies, and it is not clear in three words, and it is not easy to explain who is justified. ”

"If this place is too detailed, not only is it not conducive to establishing an image, but it will make everyone feel confused and doubt the legitimacy of the inheritance."

"That's ......" Guo Kang scratched his head and remembered something: "By the way, didn't you say that the theoretical source of the Crucifixion was the Greeks and Hebrews?" The Greeks are kicking out? ”

It is because of the great influence that we have to kick out, otherwise how can we argue that our church is the one who grasps the truth? You must know that the heresy that is close to each other, the hatred is the greatest. Jeanne Jr. pointed out: "Besides, what you said is right. Kicking out the Hebrews is a common way of thinking in Europeans. ”

Guo Kang also thought about it for a while and found that it did make some sense.

"What if we don't consider religion and talk about civilization alone?" He speculated differently: "If Europeans exclude the church and then talk about the inheritance of civilization, right?" ”

"How is that possible?" Jeanne Jr. rolled her dark eyes and looked at him in surprise: "Western European civilization itself is built on religion. Without religion, how can we speak of civilization alone? ”

This sentence directly stopped Guo Kang, and he couldn't answer for a while.

"In Europe, even if you don't mention religion, you can't get rid of the influence of religion." Jeanne told him, "So, even if you deliberately strip away the religious part, the result will only be the same." That's why I suspect that this is not at all a reason for boasting that the Europeans themselves think. ”

"The last time I saw someone, I was angry that I was an atheist because I didn't bother to leave time for prayer when I was working in a blacksmith." Zhu Wenkui thought for a while and said, "There are also such people in Europe, right?" Can they have a similar effect if they don't consider God's Word? ”

"It's not the same thing as you think." Jeanne said helplessly: "Ordinary citizens, I guess they don't know what an atheist means, and they regard it as a generic curse. ”

"Atheism is defined as a philosophy that takes the denial of the Father as its first principle. So his first request was to deny the Father completely. She defined her brother's behavior: "If you go to the Niangniang Temple twice in three days and worship the Father with everyone, although many people will think you are a heretic, they will certainly not think that you are an atheist." ”

"Secondly, it's a philosophy. Philosophy and theology are inextricably linked, so even if they deny the Father, their thinking is to use various philosophical and theological tools to argue that the Father does not exist, or that the person does not conform to it. So our side, even atheistic heretics, are under this kind of thinking. They make arguments, and they don't deviate too much. ”

"No wonder. I just said, I have worshiped so many gods, how can I be an atheist. Zhu Wenkui showed a look of surprise.

"If you think about it, it's not called atheism, it's called not caring about God at all." She laughed and shook her head, "I suspect it's a specialty of Serisβ€”it's a no-nonsense to confess or deny God." I suspect that this is a line of thought that goes beyond theism and atheism. ”

"Of course, ordinary people don't know so much." "You've lived here for so long, and you have to be aware of the difference: the culture of Western Europe is not like Seris, and history is not a divine thing," she reminded. In addition, they do not have a separate code of ethics. The "scholars" referred to by the teachers are part-time in this area, and they are also engaged in the work of educating the people and organizing the grassroots. ”

"That's why I've been telling Brother Kang just now that there can't be a definition of civilization that is divorced from religion. If there is no church, unless a more powerful replacement emerges, there will definitely be a scene of demons dancing in Europe. If it goes on like this, I'm afraid that civilization is going to collapse, so what is there to inherit. ”

"When they say you're an atheist, it means that you're free from the Father and religion, that is, free from moral and religious organizations. It's the equivalent of saying to Seris that you're a wildman with no ancestors, a villain with no morals - they can't understand the belief in a religion, and the morality of a person who is divorced from religion, so that's what they do. ”

"So the next time you encounter something like this, just take your hammer and take it back. Don't argue with him about these scriptures, you know? She looked at her brother hatefully and said.

"Who is this, talking so immorally." Princess Ma, who had been listening silently, finally couldn't help but ask.

"Oh yes, he probably meant that you lack virtue." Little Jeanne listened to her mother's words, felt that this was more appropriate, and added.

At this time, Princess Ma couldn't hold back and glared at her. Little Jeanne stuck out her tongue, put on a well-behaved appearance, and stopped talking.

"It's just a visitor, and I didn't pay much attention to it. I just remembered when you two talked about this. Zhu Wenkui scratched his head: "I really don't feel anything......

"You're too sluggish, kid." Princess Ma sighed, and looked at Xiao Jeanna again: "Hey, but there is no way, don't talk about your brother, I don't know much about this." ”

"The little county lord just understands the civilizations on both sides, so he understands this. Well, I'm not sensitive enough. Guo Kang thought for a while and said to Zhu Wenkui: "It's okay, you tell me who it is, and I'll help you clean up that person." ”

"Is this necessary?" Zhu Wenkui really didn't want to trouble him: "The affairs in the market are estimated to be very chaotic. ”

"If we don't know, there's no need. Now that you know, I'm embarrassed not to teach you a lesson. Guo Kang recognized this matter: "Leave it to me." ”

(End of chapter)