Chapter 463: Talking about the Dharma, Talking about the Dharma!
"Master, your experience is indeed quite legendary." Tang Sai'er said politely, but then added: "But to be honest, although this old master's ambition and perseverance are commendable, it is indeed impossible to rely on your sect to realize his wishes." ”
"Huh? Our original sect was indeed the weaker side, no match for the ferocious Heavenly Sect. But things are man-made, even if the conditions are limited, you have to do it. Seeing that she said so bluntly, and even looked down on her own sect, Wang Da Lama was a little surprised.
However, as a senior religious person, he did not bother with children because of such outspokenness, but explained.
"Our faction, although it comes from the Zhigong faction that has lost power, in India and Persia, there is no need to engage in factional disputes anymore. In Tibet, different sects really have a lot of secular power, so they will fight for each other, and the civil strife will not stop. But what else is here? ”
"When it comes to hatred, the Sakya sect is no shallower than us. In other words, all the sects in the Later Propagation Period had a grudge against the Heavenly Sect for breaking the sect. He told Tang Sai'er: "This point is more direct than that of Han Di." ”
"What is the post-Hongji period?" Tang Sai'er didn't understand it at all.
"There was a break in the Dharma in Tibet." Wang Da Lama said: "When Princess Wencheng entered Tibet, she brought Buddhism for the first time. This is the beginning of all the Dharma in Tibet, so we see it as the beginning of the 'pre-propagation period.'" This stage lasted until the late Tibetan Dynasty, when Langdarma was bad. ”
"Huh? Doesn't it mean that Tibetan Buddhism is different from Han China, and it was transmitted from Nibrahma? Tang Sai'er asked, "Why did you say that it was introduced from the Han land again?" ”
"These are two things." Wang Da Lama explained: "Buddhism in the pre-propagation period can basically be determined to have appeared during the Songtsen Gampo period, and then spread rapidly. Although there are also rumors that Nepalese princesses brought Buddhism, those records appeared very late, and the content is also fictional and exaggerated. ”
"Our church is very experienced in reviewing literature, and this kind of problem can be seen directly." He shook his head: "There are a lot of things in these records that don't even exist. There was even a story that the Tang army invaded the city of Luo and looted the magic weapon of Buddhism, so Princess Wencheng hid the precious Buddha statue in the Jokhang Temple, so as not to be robbed by the Tang army. ”
"Don't you think that's weird? Tang Jun robbed Princess Wencheng's things? Wang Da Lama spread his hands: "So we think that this whole set of records is made up and seconded by later generations." ”
Later, Tsangpu Dharma, the last of the Tibetan people with real power, believed that Buddhism had developed too quickly, amassed too much wealth, recruited a large number of believers, and even intervened in state affairs, posing a threat to the Tibetan state. So, around the first year of Huichang, Langdarma ordered the ban on Buddhism, destroyed Buddhist temples, and persecuted monks. This was the end of the spread of Buddhism. ”
"Huichang year...... I have heard the great monk talk about it, and I know that the Huichang law of the Tang Dynasty is difficult. Tang Sai'er thought for a moment and muttered, "Did they make an appointment?" We all have to destroy the Buddha together......"
"Maybe the problem broke out in a concentrated way, or maybe it was a coincidence." Wang Da Lama couldn't say clearly: "However, the destructiveness and consequences of the destruction of the Buddha in Tibet are much stronger than those of the Tang Dynasty." ”
"The Tibetan regime was not as stable as the Tang Dynasty, and both the Buddhist forces and the forces opposing Zampu were strong. A few years later, Langdarma went to the Jokhang Temple to consult the "Monument of the Tang Dynasty Alliance" erected there. A monk who had been hiding took the opportunity to assassinate him, and Langdarma died on the spot in front of the monument. ”
But this assassination did not save Buddhism. Langdarma's henchmen and supporters were furious and intensified their destruction of Buddhism. Many monasteries were demolished, and Xiaozhao Temple was converted into a cattle pen. The monks were scattered everywhere, and even had to hide in the mountains and forests, making a living by hunting. ”
"During this period, most of the scriptures and Buddha statues were burned, and only the treasures brought in by Princess Wencheng were probably spared because of their big face."
"The Tibetan regime also began to crumble. After the death of Rhondarma, the heirs began a civil war. Local officials and vassal states also joined the war, causing Tibet to fall into a situation of feudal division. ”
He thought for a moment and said, for example: "If you are passing through Hexi, you should know the story of the Guiyi Army." They were the earliest, and they were also vassals held hostage by Tibet. In the civil strife after Langdarma's death, the Tubo Luomenchuan crusade envoy and the Shanzhou Jiedu envoy Shang Wanwen fought many times to compete for the hegemony of the Helong region, and the group of Guiyi Army was able to take advantage of the situation to become independent. ”
"This kind of thing happens in many places. After more than 20 years of fighting, it finally led to a full-scale civil uprising. In the Yojou region, some civilians and slaves who were responsible for the construction of water conservancy projects in the mountains were in partnership. These people not only want to rebel, but also clearly put forward 'don't cut down the mountain, but cut off the head', and directly target all the nobles. ”
"This level of turmoil is unprecedented in the history of the region, and there has never been a successor to this day. These civilians and slaves were not as weak as the serfs on this side of Europe, but were very warlike. Slaves from other places also responded, and Tibetan historical sources describe the situation as 'one bird in the air, and many birds flying'. The slave army went to war everywhere, trampled on the law, and slaughtered the nobles of all tribes, and the war continued for another nine years. ”
"In the year of the turkey, that is, ......" Wang Da Lama calculated: "In exchange for the religious calendar on our side, that is, in the year 877 of the Heavenly Brother's year, the slave army finally invaded the city of Luo. The Zampu family, along with the nobles of the Sishang, Jiulun and other clans, were almost killed by the slave army, and the tombs of Zampu in the past generations were excavated by resentful slaves. Locally, all the nobles of Wuru and Sixty-one Dongdai were overthrown by slaves, and there was not a single left. ”
"The devastation of this war was particularly thorough. When the limelight passed, a new group of small local nobles began to rise, and the scattered slaves were gradually suppressed or co-opted, and the war was over. Although the new aristocrats were also very fond of clinging, and some people continued to claim to be descendants of Zampu or great aristocratic families, no one had enough prestige and strength to establish a unified Tibetan regime. ”
"The country has become like this, and Buddhism will not survive. Because of their wealth, monasteries were also important targets of hatred for slaves, and even if Buddhism had lost power, there was nothing they could do to stop them. After this round of turmoil, almost all the monks were killed, and the occasional survivor could not recover from the previous weather. Our later Buddhism can be regarded as a re-introduction. Therefore, there is a division of two periods. ”
"This is too exaggerated, it means that the whole thing is gone." Tang Sai'er listened with great interest, looked a little entangled, and said: "That's not how the rebellion was made......
"When I read the history of Buddhism, I was very moved when I saw this. I think it should be because their military level far exceeds the political level, and they also lack sufficient civilization accumulation. So it will only break, not stand. Wang Da Lama analyzed: "The Tibetan regime is too glorious, and it has actually exceeded their capacity, so this is the result." ”
Tang Sai'er thought for a while and didn't answer. But soon, she thought of something again and asked, "That's all like this, why doesn't the Tang Dynasty next to it move?" ”
"Isn't this 877?" Wang Da Lama compared the historical era and replied: "This year, on the side of the Tang Dynasty, Wang Xianzhi was defeated and killed, and the rest of the army pushed Huang Chao as the leader, known as the 'Storming General'. The rise of Huangchao was at this time - the nobles of the Tang Dynasty were actually not a few years old. ”
"Huh? This can also be together......" Tang Sai'er was surprised again.
"yes." Grand Lama Wang nodded.
"What happened to the Tibetans, and are there still slaves? I haven't heard of anything over there. Tang Sayer asked.
"The slavery system set up by Songtsen Gampo is gone. Few people still call them 'slaves'. Wang Da Lama said: "However, the situation of most people is not much different from that time. ”
"The Yuan Dynasty counted household registration and divided the vast majority of the local people into 'Lade' belonging to the temple and 'Mid' belonging to the secular officials. Although the names are different, the situation of these people is not much different from that of the slaves in the Tibetan period, and some of them may be even worse. Of course, this is not the fault of the Yuan Dynasty either. I've heard that about 100 years ago, this state was gradually formed in the area. The Yuan Dynasty merely recognized this. ”
"Their civilization is too embarrassing." Father Peter commented: "What is the result of killing so many people, the collapse of the empire, and the regression of military and organizational capabilities? It's still the same. ”
"Central Plains people like you, the actions of rebelling against the aristocracy can promote social development. The act of killing nobles and officials, although brutal, has to admit that it can indeed make the social order more fair and reasonable. Because you have the ability and foundation to carry out reforms, even if this empire falls, you can establish a new and more complete regime. ”
"But obviously, in most parts of the world, that's not the case. You see, these people are just like the Europeans. It is true that they are better able to fight than the Europeans, but after the fight, they have the same problem - the lack of ability of the civil rule to establish a better new regime. In this case, there is little point in rebelling against the aristocracy. ”
"If you want me to say, you still have to be self-aware. There are some things that not everyone can learn. He shook his head.
"No, I think it makes sense." Tang Sai'er directly objected.
"Huh?"
"Didn't Master Wang just say that there was a difference of three or four hundred years between the elimination of the nobles and the time they became slaves again. During this time, it was still relatively free. That's enough. Tang Sai'er estimated and said.
"Since the monks, the laity, the local nobles, the Mongolian nobles...... Who will rule, and the final result will be the same, so what does the so-called empire have to do with slaves? Aren't they all the same anyway? She shook her head: "In that case, who collapsed, who built, is there any difference?" ”
"Even if you kill all the nobles, you can only let everyone be free for a year, which can be regarded as a big profit. Besides, it's been hundreds of years. How can it be said that it does not make sense? ”
"We should also see that this place has a very close relationship with Han land, and all kinds of things are often agreed upon. In the future, Maitreya will come to save the Han people and open up a pure land in the world, and he will naturally save them. At that time, whether we or they, the efforts made for all this will not be in vain. ”
Father Peter looked at her dumbfounded, and then at the Great Lama Wang.
"Oops, it's far away." Wang Da Lama hurriedly said, "This ......"
"It's not too far." Tang Sai'er pointed out: "I was fighting for this little life, and I also wanted to lead the sect to rebel, which is also the same idea. I don't think those lamas are right. This is the kind of Dharma that we have, right? ”
"Uh......" Grand Lama Wang happened to catch a glimpse of the sacrament cake at the table, and said metaphorically: "Is it normal to have differences?" You see, in the churches of the world, there are those who eat dead bread, and there are those who eat steamed bread. What kind of bread does it not prevent everyone from worshiping God together? ”
"It's the same with Dharma. There's so much to talk about here. We don't talk about this rebellion, the Pure Land of the World, or anything every day, and we can't say that we don't understand the Dharma, right? ”
"Yes, yes, yes." Father Peter also hurriedly responded: "Where did you just say - talk about the Dharma, talk about the Dharma!" ”
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