Chapter 242: Can I Build It, But I Can't Mass Produce It?
After Tang Changhong gave the Russian technical team a dismissal, the progress of both the H-20 project and the PAKFA project cooperated by the two sides has been significantly faster.
The design of the fuselage was quickly finalized, the trial production of the engine was accelerated, and the production of internal structural parts began
If it goes well, it is very likely that it will really be like what Chen Nian said, after the New Year, Xifei will be able to bring a major surprise to the people of the whole country.
However, under such a smooth progress, a major problem has gradually surfaced.
The reserves of T800L carbon fiber, which is used in the manufacture of the fuselage, are completely insufficient.
In fact, the formula and manufacturing method of the T800L carbon fiber material were originally provided by Chen Nian and included in the technical package of the H-20.
Laboratory trial production of this material has already begun before the project starts.
However, the problem is that due to technical conditions and equipment conditions, this material has not yet achieved large-scale mass production.
According to the initial plan, the T800L carbon fiber material used in the first H-20 will be supplied with laboratory products.
Originally, the output of small-scale production was sufficient to meet the needs of the first batch.
But the problem is that in subsequent designs, the H-20 introduced more and more complex designs.
These include variable swept wings, wing fuel tanks, quick-open and close weapon compartments, and more.
Under such circumstances, Xifei had to arrange more experiments than expected, which led to the production of T800L starting to be stretched.
In the office, Tang Changhong frowned and looked at the report in front of him, while Gao Yongyu on the side was reporting the latest project plan.
According to the current production of T800L, the speed of material preparation may not be able to catch up with the speed of our aircraft manufacturing."
"Up to now, the gap of carbon fiber materials has reached 2.6 tons, and this number may be slightly reduced in the future, but it is basically impossible to eventually flatten."
"If we had to wait until all the materials were ready before starting the prototype, the project could be slowed down by more than three months."
"It's fast, but I doubt the Spark team can accept it."
"After all, they provide the technology, and we don't have any difficulties in our hands."
"If that's the case, we won't be able to apply for the follow-up budget."
Hearing his words, Tang Changhong snorted and did not answer immediately.
In fact, he wasn't that worried.
Although the performance and results of the project team must be evaluated, in the final analysis, it is necessary to contribute to the development of national science and technology.
The research and development of the H-20 is the most important step in the development of the Air Force in recent years.
Only with the H-20 can we have a complete strategic deterrent force.
Even if Xinghuo picks the door again, he will not get stuck on the budget in this kind of thing.
But the problem is that just because they don't have a budget doesn't mean it's going to be over.
Because, if the H-20 wants to be mass-produced, it always needs the support of new materials.
This time it was barely solved by procrastination, but what about next time?
The output of the laboratory is absolutely not enough to support the H-20 to form combat effectiveness, and if the aircraft can be truly "built", the problem of insufficient material production must be solved after all.
Thinking of this, he opened his mouth and said:
"Have you contacted other brother units, is there a way for this material to be on the industrial production line in China?"
Gao Yongyu shook his head and replied:
"There's no way."
"The development of our domestic carbon fiber industry is too weak, not to mention T800L, even if it is now a mature T700 material in the world, no factory can make it."
"If you want to do it, it is estimated that you have to pull a special project out like a chip project."
"So hard?"
Tang Changhong said in surprise.
He knows that carbon fiber is difficult, but in fact, he doesn't know much about this industry, but subconsciously thinks that this is a problem that can be completely solved by solving the material manufacturing method.
Gao Yongyu on the other side sighed and said:
"yes, I didn't think of it at first."
"But recently, I have checked a lot of information and consulted a lot of experts in the industry to figure this issue out."
"In fact, the carbon fiber industry first originated in the island country."
"In 1959, the island country invented the method of using polyacrylonitrile as the precursor and tension drafting to make carbon fiber, and it began to be commercialized in the 70s of the last century, and then it was widely used in the military and civilian fields."
"Our carbon fiber research actually began in the early 60s, but due to the harsh international environment at that time, the West imposed a high technical blockade on us, coupled with the shortage of domestic resources, the progress of carbon fiber related research work is very limited."
"It wasn't until 1975, under the deployment of Zhang Aiping, that we united more than 20 units to tackle key problems, and finally solved the problem of 'have'."
"But it was at this stage that the blind cult of Western technology began."
"Under the impact of mature products in the West, our fledgling industry simply cannot resist, and for a full 20 years, in the field of carbon fiber, we can almost say that there is no progress."
"There are two main problems, on the one hand, we don't want to do it ourselves, and we feel that the investment is large."
"On the other hand, even if it is introduced, it cannot be introduced."
"You know, under the Batumi Treaty, companies with excellent technology were reluctant to transfer technology to us, and it was extremely difficult to even get equipment."
"So, in this case, our carbon fiber industry has finally developed into what it is now."
"In a word, the principle is very familiar, the technology is very strong-—— T800L, an advanced material, can also be quickly understood and mastered."
"But the problem is that industrial mass production is almost impossible."
After finishing speaking, Gao Yongyu subconsciously shook his head, and then added:
"Even now, it's impossible for us to introduce technology and equipment."
"The top companies in the world don't consider cooperating with us at all, and second- and third-tier companies, such as the UK's RK, are also ambiguous about us."
"I'm really going to work with them. I'm afraid we'll have to lose even more. ”
Tang Changhong nodded silently, and then asked:
"What about similar products internationally? Is there a way to introduce products directly? ”
"Regardless of whether production can be solved or not, at least the urgent need is solved first."
"I can't bring it in."
Gao Yongyu replied decisively:
"T800L is already one of the 48K large wire harness carbon fibers with excellent performance, even on the island side, although they have this kind of product, but the production is as small as ours."
"However, unlike us, they are fully equipped, mainly in terms of craftsmanship."
"What about exchanging technology for equipment?"
Tang Changhong subconsciously spoke, but then he realized that something was wrong.
T800L is a truly strategic material, and it is not cost-effective to exchange it for production equipment.
Neither Xinghuo nor the higher departments would agree
So, he hurriedly said:
"It's definitely not going to work, but is there really no other way for us to get the equipment we need?"
"At the moment, we only need to solve the problem of core equipment, and we can solve the problem of T800L production, right?"
"That's right."
Gao Yongyu nodded, but then said:
"The problem is, it's not that easy to get the equipment."
"From the pre-oxidation furnace, to the high and low temperature carbonization furnace, to the rewinding and unwinding system, almost all of the core equipment will not be sold separately."
"If you want to buy, you have to buy a production line."
"What price do we have to pay to get them to sell this thing to us?"
"After all, by selling these devices, they are not only facing 'competitive risks', but also political risks"
"Understood."
Tang Changhong sighed.
"But we're going to give it a try anyway."
"You go and sort out the list of relevant companies and make a priority."
"Then, submit the difficulties we are experiencing now to Chen Guo and see if he has a way."
"The DAD under the Spark team has been established for a while, and the network has begun to operate, maybe it will give us unexpected surprises."
"Okay, I'll do it."
With that, Gao Yongyu turned around and left the office.
Tang Changhong, who stayed in the office, frowned, staring at the number of the "2.6 tons" gap, not knowing what he was thinking
On the other side, Western University of Technology.
Chen Guo soon received a message asking for help from the 603 Institute, and his first reaction was to find Chen Nian to discuss, but he soon came back to his senses:
This is not a problem that Chen Nian can solve.
Of course, if he were called, he would probably have designed a series of equipment needed for the manufacture of T800L materials in a short period of time, just like the hot isostatic press furnace and single crystal furnace he designed in the first place.
But the problem is that even with these technologies, the dilemma of the 603 Institute cannot be completely solved in a short period of time.
Mature production lines require a lot of time to manufacture and debug, not to mention the H-20 project, which is not economical to grasp all the technologies in hand.
The best solution, in fact, is to find a way to introduce a set of advanced equipment from abroad, as Tang Changhong suggested.
With the equipment, combined with the already complete technology and process, T800L - not only T800L, but also various other types of carbon fiber materials, can achieve mass production.
What's more, reverse-engineering these devices may also solve the problems of the equipment itself, laying the foundation for long-term development.
Isn't this better than throwing any problem to Chen Nianqiang?
But the question is, how?
What the state has tried for almost 30 years, but in the end it still fails to return to, in its own place, can it really have a good result?
He glanced at the list submitted by Tang Changhong, the companies on it were either island countries or Europe, and many of them belonged to the Five Eyes Alliance countries.
Asking them to provide the production line is pure wishful thinking
Chen Guo shook his head while looking at it, picked up the pen and crossed out the companies on the list one by one.
In the end, the remaining four companies are all island companies!
It seems that this time, it is inevitable that I will have to talk to them about business
Fortunately, because of the previous problems with the THAAD system, the tension between China and the island countries has been loosened, and the behavior of the United States to export the financial crisis has made the island countries extremely dissatisfied.
A person will not have too many principles and bottom lines in extremely difficult times.
The same is true for a country.
I heard that the quarterly financial reports of several pillar enterprises in the island country have been so rotten that they cannot be read, their revenues have been cut in half, fractures have been fractured, and official fiscal revenues have fallen to the bottom.
In this case, it shouldn't be too difficult for them to sell some belongings, right?
Thinking of this, Chen Guo suddenly felt that he had confidence.
Perhaps, technical problems do not necessarily need to be solved by technical means
However, before you formally engage with them, you still need to plan in advance.
Let them not see our urgency, lest they sit on the ground and raise the price.
This part of the work will be handed over to the monkey spirits of the Democratic Development Office to deal with
A few days later, all of the companies on the list received the same inquiry email.
The content of the email is very simple, it is to ask for the purchase of the most advanced carbon fiber production line of each company.
Regardless of the technical strength of each company, regardless of whether there is a comparison of the advantages and disadvantages of each company's products, all are treated equally.
This time, the DAD Office showed an attitude of not refusing to come.
As long as you are willing to give, then I dare to ask for it.
Moreover, in the inquiry email, the CDO also vaguely revealed a layer of meaning:
"The price is preferential, first-come, first-served."
In other words, whoever is willing to be the first to contact will have priority in obtaining the preferential conditions provided by Huaxia.
Provided, of course, that the negotiations can continue.
This email caused a lot of shock in the circle of carbon fiber equipment manufacturers, however, this does not mean that all manufacturers will buy Huaxia's account.
In Germany, ScholzAutoclaves was the first to reply to the email.
They politely expressed their gratitude to Huaxia for the inquiry, but at the same time, they regretted that their products could not meet the requirements of Huaxia and could only refuse this cooperation.
Subsequently, MillerItalia in Italy, FOREST-LINE in France, and Electroimpact in the United States successively replied that they refused to cooperate.
Their attitude was resolute, without any politeness and without leaving a trace of leeway.
Of course, the most determined is the American MAGCincinnati.
They didn't even bother to go through the normal reply process and simply ignored the inquiry email.
After a round of screening, in addition to the second-tier companies such as the British KR, there are only three companies left in the island country.
Kawasaki, Mitsubishi, Hanyuta.
The three companies expressed a positive desire to cooperate, and were even willing to send representatives to China for face-to-face interviews.
Such a result was not at all unexpected by Chen Guo.
After all, those companies in Europe are all serious oldmoney, and they are a bit "aristocratic reserved", so they will not turn away regardless of a financial crisis.
United States?
They had already refused to cooperate, and this time, it was just a routine inquiry.
Only the island nation, a nation that has no courtesy, righteousness and shame, will abandon it without hesitation after its master is gone.
They can't control what kind of chain reaction carbon fiber technology will cause after it is given to Huaxia.
As long as they are given enough money, they will dare to bite even their masters