"Still can't ask?"

Outside the makeshift interrogation room, Jackal asked with a frown.

His teammate, the man he had previously known as "Sparrow", shook his head and replied:

"They refused to answer any questions-—— no, it should be said, they refused to communicate with each other."

"They haven't said a word since they fell into our hands, neither during the transfer nor after the interrogation process."

"That's the hardest thing to do, and they're obviously heavily trained in counter-coercion, and they're using the most extreme and effective tactics, which is when we don't exist."

"No one can pry their mouths open, psychologists have tried and they don't say anything."

"If this continues, we will have to plan for the worst, but fortunately, the chain of evidence is sufficient, and it is enough to convict them."

Hearing Sparrow's words, the jackal frowned, and his hands subconsciously touched his waist, which was his unconscious reaction when facing a threat.

However, he soon discovered that the threat he faced now was no longer tangible bullets and explosives, but an unpredictable future.

In this case, the problem will not be solved with a gun.

"Can we use more extreme measures?"

He asked.

"Time is pressing, we've tried everything we can, but it's useless."

"We have to think about the limits of their physical capacity, and if we kill them, all our efforts will be in vain."

"Obviously, they, including the organization behind them, are looking to us to do that."

"Impossible."

The jackal did not hesitate to deny the sparrow's words.

"If they were really ready to die, then when we entered the hotel, we should have seen two corpses."

"They have plenty of time to make decisions. But since they are not dead, it means that they want to live. ”

"Or to put it another way, it means that the organization behind them doesn't use the principle of 'keeping secrets by death.'"

"From this, we can judge that they don't want to say, but we can't find that breakthrough point yet"

Sparrow sighed.

"You're right, but the problem is that in a limited amount of time, we simply can't find this breaking point."

"Such people, the things they do are obviously not for some simple profit, but are driven by spiritual factors."

"Whatever that factor is, it must have developed into some kind of faith."

"And a person of faith, it's too difficult for them to open their mouths, give up, and prepare to carry out the transshipment plan and send them to Huaxia."

"That's a lot of risk."

The jackal hesitated, and after a moment he spoke:

"Try again, at least we already have their basic information, and we can't start with their background and life experiences?"

"The problem is, they don't eat it."

"Both of their families were shattered by the economic crisis a decade ago, and Paul even witnessed the tragic death of his father."

"We've tried to do that too, but when we put the photos of those years and similar photos of people who fell to their deaths in front of him, he didn't feel any emotional fluctuations."

"Even my heartbeat hasn't changed."

"Obviously, even in this detail, he is trained."

"There's a problem with that."

The jackal interrupted again.

"If Paul is going to train specifically in this matter, it means that this event will have a great impact on him."

"Isn't that a good way to go? Why don't we continue to attack in this direction? ”

"It's too late."

Sparrow said helplessly.

"The C.I.A. has already questioned us as to why we are targeting American citizens and is asking us to hand over the two suspects."

"They only gave four hours, and now two hours have passed."

"We now have only three options – either hand them over, or take off and fly back to China immediately, or we will not give them and finally elevate this matter to the level of an international dispute."

"That's."

The jackal said angrily:

"The CIA knew there must be something wrong with these two people, they knew what we were trying to do, but why did they still want to?"

"It's because they know that these two people have a problem, that's why they can't wait for us to hand them over, which is very simple logic."

"The reason why we use tough measures against them is also because we think that they have something to do with the Musk incident and the Falcon-9 incident, and it just so happens that these two things damage the interests of the United States -—— have nothing to do with us."

"In short, even if they suspect that we are going to cross the river and tear down the bridge, unload the mill and kill the donkey, it is normal."

"We have to make a decision, to fly, or not to fly?"

The jackal clenched his fists, and then he replied:

"Get the plane ready, but let me try it again."

"Go ahead."

Sparrow made a "please come in" gesture and helped the jackal open the door to the interrogation room.

Walking into the interrogation room, the first thing the jackal smelled was the smell of disinfectant water flooding the space-—— which was very pungent, but it couldn't hide the smell of blood in the interrogation room.

The young man, Paul, was cuffed to a medical bed in the center of the interrogation room, and the various torture instruments had been removed, and there were no visible injuries on his body, but his expression was extremely depressed.

"Still not going to say it?"

The jackal asked.

He didn't expect the other party to answer, but continued to speak to himself:

"I don't know exactly what you're going to do, but we can almost all guess that what you want to do must be in conflict with U.S. interests."

"To be honest, I admire Ling for this-—— because when I was younger, I also thought about doing something like this, but never put it into practice."

"And now, you've done it, and you've done it perfectly."

"If it weren't for the development of computer technology and the evolution of big data analysis algorithms, we really wouldn't have been able to catch you."

"But since the result is already like this, why do you have to resist?"

"Really, cooperate with us, we will definitely not embarrass you, this is a very basic principle-—— we are vested interests in the series of events you have planned."

"The C.I.A. is already warning us that if you don't want to cooperate with us, you have to cooperate with them."

"Do you know what will happen if you fall into their hands, and do you need me to remind you again?"

Still no answer.

The jackal even wondered if the other party was asleep, but when he looked at the other party's face, he found that the other party was extremely awake with his eyes open, and there was even a hint of a smile on his face.

The CIA card is useless either.

He stared into Paul's eyes, and the other man looked back without fear, and after a long time, the jackal finally gave up.

In those eyes, he saw a resoluteness that he had never seen from an "American" before.

The jackal turned and left the interrogation room, and then he said to the sparrow who was waiting:

"Fly back to Huaxia and stall for time, this will be a. Long-term engineering. ”

"So the question now is, people are caught, but can't be asked?"

In Chengdu, in the office, Chen Nian sat on the sofa leisurely, listening to the news about the "mysterious organization" that Li wanted to "communicate with" with him alone.

Regarding this matter, in fact, his mentality is still more inclined to "eat melons".

Compared with the attitude of the officials of various countries as if facing the enemy, he has always been very indifferent.

Because from the bottom of his heart, he did not believe that there could be any so-called "underground organization" in the world with the ability to subvert the world order.

They may cause some trouble, or they may stir up one or two waves in the torrent of history that is moving forward, but it is impossible to say "turn the big picture" around.

After all, not all organizations are Sparks, and not all organizations have the power to change the world.

On the other side, Li Xiang looked much more serious.

He was sitting on the chair, and after hearing Chen Nian's question, he also replied seriously:

"Yes, the arrest alone consumes a lot of our resources and overseas strength - let's not mention this first."

"The point is, judging from the current clues and evidence, these two people must have a connection with the organization behind them."

"The mere fact that the perpetrators of the two cases appeared in the same hotel is enough to illustrate the problem."

"What's more, the security forces they have are definitely not something that ordinary people can play with."

"Moreover, their counter-interrogation skills are also top-notch, and I even suspect that they are directly agents trained by the United States, otherwise why would the CIA be so eager to bring people back?"

"In short, this arrest operation can no longer be kept secret, and if we can't end the interrogation in a short time, we will have to face pressure from the United States."

"U.S. pressure?"

Chen Nian was slightly stunned and said:

"Are you still afraid of this?"

A bitter smile appeared on Li Xiang's face, and then he replied:

"It's not a question of being afraid or not, if it's really just a pure confrontation, then of course we're not afraid."

"But the problem is that this matter itself is complicated, and if we insist on handling it ourselves, it will be equivalent to sending the handle to them."

"They will definitely suspect that we are pursuing hegemony – and this will be very detrimental to our subsequent globalization strategy."

"Who wants to accept that a hegemon has just been overthrown and a new one has been erected?"

"So that's the crux of the matter. It has been decided that if the negotiations with the US side are unsuccessful, we will hand them over and let them handle it themselves. ”

"Anyway, this matter, in the end, it doesn't affect us that much."

"Okay."

Chen Nian nodded lightly and asked instead:

"So what is the background of those two?"

"Simply understood, it's two ordinary Americans."

"Working in a medium-sized company, with an average income, ordinary social relations, and an ordinary family life."

"Basically two people who don't go unnoticed – but one thing is peculiar, and that's that both of their fathers died because of the economic crisis that started in 2006, and both of them died by suicide."

"You should still have an impression of the original Wall Street jumping machine incident, right?"

"Paul and Jace, their father jumped off the same day, from two different high-rise buildings on Wall Street."

"After that, both of them were depressed for a while, and we were even able to check their respective counseling records, but it didn't take long for them to recover."

They all completed their university studies, and Paul even pursued a PhD in economics. We suspect that this has something to do with his father's death, but there is no evidence. ”

"Isn't that the motive obvious?"

Hearing this, Chen Nian couldn't help but ask.

Because a family member died in an economic crisis, it sounds reasonable to blame the state for the misfortune and then find a way to take revenge.

"yes, the motive is obvious."

Li Xiang spread his hands.

"They're like two perfect murderers, and everyone can see their motives and even determine their modus operandi."

"But the problem is, we don't just want that."

"We're not just going to convict them-—— that's what the American justice system needs to do."

"What we want is for them to tell the secrets behind these events, and for them to confess to the organizations that train and help them."

"But it's clear that they're not going to say."

"I've tried everything, but I can't pry their mouths open."

"Wouldn't it work with their father's death?"

Chen Nian asked.

"No, we suspect that the other party has been specially trained, and they have no special reaction to this problem-—— the contradiction is here, if they don't care, they won't take the initiative to train."

"So the key question is, how to use this as a breakthrough point."

"We have mobilized all the well-known criminal psychology experts in China to tackle the problem, and we just hope that they can find the key to the problem in a short time."

Hearing this, Chen Nian nodded thoughtfully.

Then, suddenly, he said:

"I think it's better for you to find a family ethics expert."

"Why?"

Li Xiang was stunned for a moment.

"I don't know, it's just my instinct as an 'ordinary person'."

"Obviously, family ties must be their weakness, but not necessarily directly related to 'crime'."

"Moreover, it is impossible for them to think that they are committing a crime, and from this point of view, isn't it wrong to go to a criminal psychology expert to solve it?"

"We should figure out how to understand their true 'emotional system,' and that may take some time-—— well, it's up to you to choose."

"After all, just like you said, even if we really give up, it won't cause much loss."

Affective system

Li Xiang pondered Chen Nian's words silently, and he suddenly felt as if he had grasped something.

"We tried showing them pictures of their father's body after the fall, but they didn't seem to have an emotional reaction to it. Speaking of which, do you have any special thoughts? ”

"Don't think too much about it, just follow your instincts!"

Chen Nian paused for a moment, and then said:

"You have to put yourself in your shoes. If it's me, why don't you try to break the bones and scatter the ashes? ”

"That's obviously not going to work"

Li Xiang waved his hand repeatedly, but soon, his movements stopped.

"That's not right."

"It's not okay to break bones and scatter ashes, but we can try this idea."

(End of chapter)